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HAPPY LABOR DAY

Icee Loco (asshole)
I'm a fucking loser
https://socialistworker.org/2016/09/06/l…

May Day undoubtedly belongs to us: It symbolizes internationalism and solidarity. But Labor Day also has roots in our radical tradition. The militant struggles of the 1880s produced both holidays, and Labor Day's proponents also fought for the eight-hour day.

24 comments

  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    https://theconversation.com/have-we-forg…

    The first Labor Day occurred in 1882 in New York City under the direction of that city’s Central Labor Union.
  • TheeOSU
    2 years ago
    You're a commie cocksucker but we still be homiez lulz
  • motorhead
    2 years ago
    It was entrepreneurial capitalists that embraced technological innovations who paved the way for a 40 hour work week, not socialists
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    Not really. Things like satellites space exploration contact lenses insulin are socialist advancements.

    This is a day for the workers in the US. Without whom there would be nothing.
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    Not sure why you're calling insulin "socialism."

    Insulin was initially discovered in a research label and the patents sold for a dollar, but pharmaceutical companies have continuously improved on it, by developing formulations for better glucose control, more convenient injection regimens, fewer side effects, coformulations with other non-insulin drugs for better diabetes control, pumps for continuous infusion, longer duration, and more. They're as different from the initial insulin purified from cow pancreases as the Model T is to a Honda Accord.

    For a long time, insulin was approved under the NDA (small molecule) pathway rather than the BLA (biologics) pathway, even if it's a biologic, which kept generic versions off the market. This has already brought the costs down.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    The Chinese invented insulin

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Yin….

    Anyways nice to see you shit on workers too
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    Oh Icee. Any time I think to engage you on an intellectual level, you show you just want to stir shit. I'll make a good faith response for the sake of others on this thread who might want to learn something.

    Note I didn't say anything about "workers," not unless workers = socialism, and only there I said one of your examples was a touch misleading.

    Insulin was discovered by three Canadian scientists who noticed what cells were destroyed in type 1 diabetes. It wasn't synthetic, it was purified from cow pancreases.
    https://www.diabetes.org.uk/research/res….

    The article you cite isn't the discoverer of insulin, he was the first person to synthesize it from scratch. That's a much different advance. Oh, and another own-goal, your own article says he was persecuted by Mao, who "considered the Nobel Prize a symbol of Western decadence." Some socialist!
  • TheeOSU
    2 years ago
    Can you spot iceydougee in the video?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvzbclva…
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    The first synthetic insulin is a huge socialist advancement. Don't belittle it
  • TheeOSU
    2 years ago
    Well of course you can't but he's there in spirit Lulz
  • TheeOSU
    2 years ago
    For my homie iceydougster.
    Some inspiration while you troll tuscl.
    Since you troll 20 hours a day you'll have to play it twice Lulz

    10 Hours of Chinese Communist Music

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEsN-kAv…

  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    Icee, you don't know the relevant significance of jack shit. You probably Googled "socialist accomplishments" and came right here to start shit.

    I've been in and around drug development for decades. As is clear from our posts, I was pulling all-nighters to study and analyze this stuff while you were jerking off in the back of Mrs. Johnson's remedial science class.

    Total chemical synthesis is a different discipline than drug discovery. These products are already well known--they might be difficult to isolate from nature, hard to find, or scientists just want to improve them. But it's the same molecule.

    Again, the communists forced Wang to shut down his research for ten years and study Mao Zedong thought. Right from your article.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    Wang Ying Lai is a hero for what he did. Go suck corporate dick elsewhere. Don't ruin a labor day thread
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    ^ Waah waah how dare Tetradon sully my thread with facts!

    Wang Yinglai was a great scientist who suffered persecution from communists, as you shared with us.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    https://www.northstarcompass.org/nsc1212…

    Achievements of socialist space exploration

    1957: Launch of the first intercontinental ballistic missile R-7 Semyorka. 1957: First orbiting satellite, Sputnik 1. 1957: First living in orbit, the dog Laika on Sputnik 2. 1959: Launch of a missile, the first man-made object to leave the Earth's orbit, Luna 1 1959: Telemetry – First communication to and from the ground, Luna 1. 1959: First object to pass near the moon, and the first object in orbit around the Moon, Luna 1. 1959: First satellite hit the moon, Luna 2. 1959: First images of the dark side of the moon, Luna 3. 1960: First satellite to be launched to Mars, the Marsnik 1. 1961: First satellite to Venus, Venera 1. 1961: The first person to enter orbit around the Earth, Yuri Gagarin in Vostok 1. 1961: The first person to spend a day in orbit, Gherman Titov – Vostok 2. 1962: First flight of two astronauts (estimate), Vostok 3 and Vostok 4. 1963: First woman in space, Valentina Tereshkova, Vostok 6. 1964: First flight of several astronauts (3), Voskhod 1. 1965: First spacewalk, Aleksei Leonov, Voskhod 2. 1965: First probe to another planet Venus, Venera 3. 1966: First probe to descend on the moon and send from there, Luna 9. 1966: First probe in lunar orbit, Luna 10. 1967: First meeting of unmanned Cosmos 186/Cosmos 188 (until 2006 this feat was not imitated by the United States). 1969: First docking and crew exchange in orbit, Soyuz 4 and Soyuz 51970:. First signals sent to the moon by Luna 16. 1970: First mobile robot, Lunokhod 1. 1970: The first data sent by a probe from another planet (Venus), Venera 7. 1971: First space station, Salyut 1. 1971: First satellite in orbit around Mars and landing on Mars 2.
     1975: First satellite in orbit around Venus and sending data to earth, Venera 9. 
    1984: First woman to walk in space, Svetlana Savitskaja (Salyut 7) 
    1986: First team to visit two space stations Salyut and Mir (7). 
    1986: First permanent space station in Earth orbit, the MIR orbit from
    1986 to 2001. 
    1987: First team to spend more than a year aboard Mir, Vladimir Titov and Musa Manarov.

    http://en.people.cn/n3/2022/0419/c90000-…

    Chinese space exploration
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    Wang accomplished what he did under socialism
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    Other great socialist accomplishments

    In 1993, Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Advisor to Jimmy Carter, wrote that "the failed effort to build communism in the twentieth century consumed the lives of almost 60,000,000."[58]
    In 1994, Rummel's controversial book Death by Government included about 110 million people, foreign and domestic, killed by communist democide from 1900 to 1987.[59] This total excluded deaths from the Great Chinese Famine of 1958–1961 due to Rummel's then belief that "although Mao's policies were responsible for the famine, he was misled about it, and finally when he found out, he stopped it and changed his policies."[60][61] Rummel would later revise his estimate from 110 million to about 148 million due to additional information about Mao's culpability in the Great Chinese Famine from Mao: The Unknown Story, including Jon Halliday and Jung Chang's estimated 38 million famine deaths.[60][61]
    In 2004, historian Tomislav Dulić criticized Rummel's estimate of the number killed in Tito's Yugoslavia as an overestimation based on the inclusion of low-quality sources, and stated that Rummel's other estimates may suffer from the same problem if he used similar sources for them.[62] Rummel responded with a critique of Dulić's analysis.[63] Karlsson says that Rummel's thesis of "extreme intentionality in Mao" for the famine is "hardly an example of a serious and empirically-based writing of history",[64] and describes Rummel's 61,911,000 estimate for the Soviet Union as being based on "an ideological preunderstanding and speculative and sweeping calculations".[65]
    In 1997, historian Stéphane Courtois's introduction to The Black Book of Communism, an impactful yet controversial[52] work written about the history of communism in the 20th century,[66] gave a "rough approximation, based on unofficial estimates". The subtotals listed by Courtois added up to 94.36 million killed.[67] Nicolas Werth and Jean-Louis Margolin, contributing authors to the book, criticized Courtois as obsessed with reaching a 100 million overall total.[68]
    In his foreword to the 1999 English edition, Martin Malia wrote that "a grand total of victims variously estimated by contributors to the volume at between 85 million and 100 million."[69] Historian Michael David-Fox states that Malia is able to link disparate regimes, from radical Soviet industrialists to the anti-urbanists of the Khmer Rouge, under the guise of a "generic communism" category "defined everywhere down to the common denominator of party movements founded by intellectuals."[70] Courtois' attempt to equate Nazism and communist regimes was not fruitful on both scientific and moral grounds, because such comparisons are generally controversial.[71]
    In 2005, professor Benjamin Valentino stated that the number of non-combatants killed by communist regimes in the Soviet Union, China, and Cambodia alone ranged from a low of 21 million to a high of 70 million.[72]
    In 2010, professor of economics Steven Rosefielde wrote in Red Holocaust that the internal contradictions of communist regimes caused the killing of approximately 60 million people and perhaps tens of millions more.[73]
    In 2012, academic Alex J. Bellamy wrote that a "conservative estimate puts the total number of civilians deliberately killed by communists after the Second World War between 6.7 million and 15.5 million people, with the true figure probably much higher."[74]
    In 2014, professor of Chinese politics Julia Strauss wrote that while there was the beginning of a scholarly consensus on figures of around 20 million killed in the Soviet Union and 2–3 million in Cambodia, there was no such consensus on numbers for China.[75]
    In 2017, historian Stephen Kotkin wrote in The Wall Street Journal that 65 million people died prematurely under communist regimes according to demographers, and those deaths were a result of "mass deportations, forced labor camps and police-state terror" but mostly "from starvation as a result of its cruel projects of social engineering."[76][77]
  • Tetradon
    2 years ago
    "Wang accomplished what he did under socialism"
    "Wang accomplished what he did despite socialism"

    FIFY
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    https://apnews.com/article/biden-electio…

    FINALLY

    Biden blasts ‘extreme’ GOP in Labor Day swing-state trips
  • twentyfive
    2 years ago
    >>>> Don't ruin a labor day thread<<<<

    Did you really post that Iceefag,
    LULZ
    You come on every thread and pick a fight with someone, how about you get off your high horse and shut the fuck up
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    You mean i defend myself from trolls like you. You're on here trolling me 24 7 senile drunk ass troll
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguar…

    Tired of trickle-down economics’: Biden calls for expansion of unions in Labor Day speech
  • twentyfive
    2 years ago
    ^ Frenulum/Taint
    Potato/ Potatoe
    Crack Whore/Coke Fiend
    LULZ
  • skibum609
    2 years ago
    Of course Biden called for the expansion of labor unions, it was Labor Day and he tries to be a simpleton on every holiday. Maybe if you worked Icee you could celebrate it too.
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