Are all the “Cubanas” really from Cuba?
Friday, August 5, 2022 7:38 PM
I think that can’t be, there’s just too many of and every Latina danxer in every city claims they’re Cuban.
Google search says Cubans can’t get even tourist visas to enter the USA. Is there some kind of loophole and a scout makes arrangements for pretty ladies to come to America?
So where are all these Latina dancers coming from?
Born & raised in USA? Then no visa obstacle. But they usually don’t seem like Americans because they seem to come from countries where earning $20 or $25 for 3 minutes of work is very good.
Do they come from a wide mix of Latin countries? If so, why not just say which country they’re actually from? I’ve had a few name their nationality as Colombian, Venz, etc. Why would all the rest lie?
Would appreciate any knowledge.
And to wherever they’re coming from - Thank you very much and keep ‘em coming!!
Google search says Cubans can’t get even tourist visas to enter the USA. Is there some kind of loophole and a scout makes arrangements for pretty ladies to come to America?
So where are all these Latina dancers coming from?
Born & raised in USA? Then no visa obstacle. But they usually don’t seem like Americans because they seem to come from countries where earning $20 or $25 for 3 minutes of work is very good.
Do they come from a wide mix of Latin countries? If so, why not just say which country they’re actually from? I’ve had a few name their nationality as Colombian, Venz, etc. Why would all the rest lie?
Would appreciate any knowledge.
And to wherever they’re coming from - Thank you very much and keep ‘em coming!!
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But I do think there is a fair amount of trafficking going on with Cuban girls. The economy is so bad that people will do anything to get out. Agencies help the girls, then expect to be paid back. Maybe why the girls are rather aggressive. They have someone to pay back. OR they have to send money back to family still there.
SJG
Another dancer told me she was Hawaiian although she was Filipina. blah remarked that, for dubious reasons, many dancers think it's good to lie about their ethnicity/ancestry. But, many PLs prefer a persona rather than an actual person, so it's $ if dancers can provide that. So, any sort of pretending to be something you're not has value as practice, if nothing else.
But – over time the Cubans have decided not to make SE Florida their homebase when arriving since the opportunities in SoFLo are not that great; and that in large part has led to there being many more Cubans, and in greater #s, spread around the country.
There has def been a big, and surprising, surge, of Cuban-dancers around the country where they seem to take over certain clubs in short order – even in some places like Denver which I would have not expected.
There does seem to be some coordination going on – pre-1995 or so, Cubans were given automatic asylum if picked up at sea or if they made I to the U.S. any other way – in the early-90s there was a massive outflow from Cuba by sea many people doing so on homemade rafts and they were called “los balseros” (the rafters) – b/c of this massive migration, Clinton changed the law to the “wet-foot dry-foot” law that if you were caught at sea, you were returned to Cuba, but if you made it to U.S. soil, you were granted asylum.
But in January 2017; as one of his last acts when leaving office; Obama took away the automatic asylum claims Cubans had (Obama took away wet-foot dry-foot) – after January 2017, Cubans had to mostly come into the U.S. illegally either by sea or land but more commonly by land by going from Cuba to a Central-American country to then Mexico to then the U.S. border – this required the use of coyotes and thousands of dollars – in many cases families in the U.S. paid; in other cases I assume folks come to an agreement to pay back the $$$ either to the coyotes or whomever lends them the $$$; I’m not sure how it works (I came from Cuba as a 9 y/o in 1979 thus I don’t have closet-ties to the recent arrival community).
So IDK for sure what has led to the recent influx of Cuban dancers around the country, but I suspect either:
1) they see stripping as a quick way to get on their feet vs slaving-away at $7 or $8 an hour or w/e the current minimum wage is in a particular area – and somehow the word has gotten out w.r.t. stripping being a quick-way to make a lot of $$$ and the word has gotten out w.r.t. the more lucrative clubs to hit; etc
2) post January 2017; seems most Cubans have had to do the Cuban to Central America to Mexico to the border thing which often requires a good amount of $$$ including coyotes – so could be the influx/increase of Cuban girls dancing are doing so to get out of under that debt as quickly as possible whether it’d be owed to coyotes or family-members that sacrificed to get them here but really are not in a position to spends thousands of dollars and often times the family-members here may have borrowed the $$$ themselves
I’m leaning towards #2 above as the main-reason for the huge influx of Cuban-dancers but IDK for sure and I assume #1 above applies to some of them – but it does seem as if the word has gotten out among them w.r.t. how to make lots of $$$ quickly – if this is somehow coordinated vs just “the word getting around”, IDK – I doubt they are “trafficked” in the sense that they are lied to or somehow connived into it – I’m pretty-sure they know the deal going in and decide it’s worth it to them given how dire things are in Cuba and more importantly no end in sight for their situation in Cuba.
I thought you might have some real knowledge on the topic. Yes, coming in through other countries makes sense.
I’ve employed day laborers (male) who’ve come to the USA to work via an incredibly long and hard journey from remote corners of Central and South America. Like walk 4 days from a village in the mountains of Peru to the closest stop for a bus to the capitol type deal. I just can’t imagine these gorgeous ladies making that kind of journey.
Also, even then, it doesn’t explain why 90% of Latina strippers that I’ve met in NYC, SoFlo, and TX (my main stomping grounds) all say they’re “Cuban”. If bleak economic prospects was the main driver pushing women to seek $ as dancers in the USA, I should be meeting tons of dancers from almost every country in Central and South America. Esp Venezuela (very fucked economy) and Argentina (known for beautiful women) and Brazil (a wealthy elite but millions of poor and known for beautiful women).
Bottom-line, something just isn’t adding up for me. Curious about it.
Every male member on this board (with the exception of SJG) has no idea how good they have it.
This may go back to the early-90s – when the Soviet Union was intact, Cuba received massive subsidies from the Eastern Block – once the USSR was no longer; that is when the situation in Cuba went from “you could kinda get by” to “you couldn’t feed your kids”; and this was pretty-much for most of the population vs just there being haves and have-nots – this is when Cuba had to pivot and open the country to as much foreign tourists as possible (mainly from Canada and Europe) – and this is when many young girls turned to prostitution to get $$$ from the tourists and be able to survive (there were young girls that would sleep w/ a tourist if he just bought her a pair of jeans; etc).
This article seems to explain the history.
https://www.wola.org/analysis/cuban-migr…
I think nicespice should start passing as Cuban. She should develop an act where she plays the bongos like Desi Arnaz, but with her boobs. Then tour around as a feature show.
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
The impact of US sanctions (American Embargo) has continuously inflicted serious harm on the Cuban economy for many years now.
But the embargo has never been effective at achieving its principal purpose: forcing Cuba's revolutionary regime out of power or bending the knee to Washington's will.
Because of the “American Embargo” on Cuba poor men women and children are lured to the USA because the false advertising and globalized propaganda that makes them believe the U. S. Is the land of economic opportunity.
Remember Voltaire — 'Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.'
As a means to flee poverty in Cuba, many beautiful naive young women agree to work in the USA as exotic dancers to pay off a $20,000 to $30,000 smuggling fees, and instead of simply stripping often times they are forced into prostitution to try to pay the money.
It is ironic that in a country that promotes “equality” people like those beautiful naive Cuban girls are being treated as disposable sex objects.
Many immigrants like the Cuban girls and other men women and children produce billions of dollars in revenue every year by being exploited and abused by criminals, Americans and their accomplices, all over the world.
It is the “American Way” of profiting by victimizing millions of vulnerable people from countries around the world.
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Bacon!!
- all these Cubanas really were born in Cuba, its unclear how they’re all - - getting to the USA but probably not on a jet from Havanna to Miami, and
- they do seem to have some advantage in getting residency and work permits (which explains why there aren’t a ton of dancers from El Salvador, Bolivia, etc).
good team effort by the PLs