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Getting too turned on boundaries?

Thursday, August 4, 2022 7:56 PM
Do some dancers have boundaries about not getting too turned on during a dance? Some of the dances ive gotten it seems like they very carefully avoid grinding their pussy on the crotch or leg for too long of a time period. They’ll grind it, but switch positions often. Pussy touching is allowed, but only very minimally. Boob/nipple touching is allowed, but also with limits in some cases. One dancer allowed playing with her nipples, but halfway through one dance said no more nipple play because i was “activating her nipple”. What does that mean? This was a dancer with milk, so that choice of words could be interpreted in at least two ways. Either milk coming out, getting too turned on, or both. I felt a bit scammed since prior dances there wasn’t any sort of issue or mention of “activated nipples”, and she squirted milk with no problems previously. It was basically a new rule, created out of thin air, halfway through the middle of a dance I already paid for. Had I known about this new “policy” I wouldn’t have even got the dance. To have that as a boundary seems crazy to me. It’s basically putting limits on the lapdance which shouldn’t really be there. Obviously, it makes sense to not want customers causing physical harm. But to say “you can touch my pussy/ass/boobs, just as long as I don’t get too turned on” seems excessive. This wasn’t outright said, but it seems to be the implication. Have you ran into a situation where a dancer had restrictions like this? A 15 minute or 30 minute dance where she wants to limit the amount and duration of touching, after the dance has started? Basically setting up new rules mid dance? If you paid up front, you basically got scammed. I think it could also be a power trip, similar to how some dancers believe in the concept of finessing, like intentionally trying to do as little work as possible whilst getting the most money for it in order to brag about it to their friends. Kind of an embarrassing situation to be in, it’s kind of like a long term ROB type thing. You’d think the rules in each dance remain the same, but they can actually change in a split second, so you basically need to verify before each dance and hope they don’t turn into a ROB. These sorts of things make it extremely difficult for me to get more than 2-3 dances with the same dancer. I think if you’re a “regular” customer whether ITC or OTC, the dancer may start to get too comfortable and start putting in less and less effort. When I tested this out with one dancer, the first dance she was absolutely crazy, the fourth and final dance, weeks later, she spent the first 5 minutes just laying her boobs on me and talking. It sucks you basically can’t be too much of a regular or you’ll get taken advantage of. Had I continued to be a regular in that instance, I may eventually have been asked for money just to look at her. It seems like that’s where things would have been headed. I think some people operate differently. If you spend more money on them they actually lose respect for you. You basically have to use reverse psychology, as someone with this kind of condition will likely be rejecting OTC offers of $600 but accepting OTC offers of $200. The more money you spend, the less they think of you. The less you spend, the more they think of you. It’s really sad stuff if you think about it. The more you see them, the more respect is lost, the less you see them, the more they respect you.

32 comments

  • san_jose_guy
    2 years ago
    FRMOS! Women don't have boundaries beyond that. So it starts as soon as you can get within arms reach of her and say few words and show some good intentions generosity. SJG
  • san_jose_guy
    2 years ago
    Women don't object to getting too turned on. SJG
  • psycho_trick
    2 years ago
    "Basically setting up new rules mid dance?" she's lying and making excuses. if she cuts back mileage, u cut back cash. rip-off bitch mileage drop-off is why i stop at max 2 vips unless there's penetration. otc or move on.
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Daily grind, that was the 4th dance, midway through, she claimed her nipples were being activated so no more nipple play. The nipple play was never an issue in any previous dances. The other behaviors like, allowing pussy touching but only for a little bit during the dance etc makes it seem like she has some rule of not reaching orgasm in the dances? I already paid for the dance, so i couldnt do anything besides not get additional dances. Then she got all pissed when I stopped coming for a couple months. But this is a new thing. It seemed like mileage remains the same, but in some cases the mileage will be the highest in the first dance then continuously get lower with each successive dance. I’m not sure if this is even done consciously or subconsciously due to some self esteem issue. As crazy as it sounds I think someone with this condition is more likely to accept a cheaper OTC offer than a higher one.
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Heaving that seems to be the inner reasoning based on the odd behaviors. Maybe it’s due to having a SO and not wanting to cum during dances or something. Its things like allowing touching of the pussy, but just not for long. The “activating the nipple” line makes it seem like something is going on.
  • san_jose_guy
    2 years ago
    ^ BTE, Front Room Feel Up And Make Out Session. They you are better able to lead it. Save booths and backrooms until they are really needed. SJG
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    SJG not every club allows the feel up. Feel ups can be limited in the front room.
  • psycho_trick
    2 years ago
    "the mileage will be the highest in the first dance then continuously get lower with each successive dance." if each dance is not getting more intense, i bail. it's all being done intentionally. i'm suprised u don't know all this by now with all our professional tutoring.
  • san_jose_guy
    2 years ago
    BTE, look for the clubs that are the most flexible. The best is when it is the women who control it. Once you get that FRMOS going, the girl is not going to have any boundaries left. Don't take her into the backroom until you really need that, like when your pants are to come down. SJG
  • georgmicrodong
    2 years ago
    Well obviously, it means that you're a stud without equal. You should be proud of yourself. It's very rare for a stripper to be turned on by a customer at all, much less just from nipple touching. When they do this stuff, you should just ask for sex right then and there, since she's apparently ripe for the plucking.
  • san_jose_guy
    2 years ago
    Make out sessions get women turned on. SJG
  • CJKent_band
    2 years ago
    Public Service Announcement (PSA) BigThirdEye is just cacaplop trying to swamp these forums with repetitive, stupid questions, either via his own threads or crashing other threads. But, as always, take a look at his posting history and judge for yourself. If engaging with his inane posts is fun for you, then go for it. Otherwise, don't think you're answering sincere questions. ~ [view link].Ishmael ~ April 29, 2022 “In this world, shipmates, sin that pays its way can travel freely, and without a passport; whereas Virtue, if a pauper, is stopped at all frontiers." ~Father Mapple via Herman Melville's "Moby Dick".
  • TheeOSU
    2 years ago
    Public Service Announcement (PSA) cjkunt is just an out of the closet communist that is only on tuscl to troll and agitate people because he's sorrowful and never satisfied with his dick pic collection. He represents the epitome of hypocritical posting. An immigrant who hates America yet praises his former country. He's free to leave yet complains about our system but won't move to a system he praises. Claims to champion poor people of color yet lives in upscale Brentwood away from those people and idolizes Marilyn Monroe a white blonde woman who happened to be rich and famous and a product of the system he claims to despise. A typical fake liberal whose words are opposite of the life he lives. Queerer than a 3 dollar bill. His goal is to be TUSCL's biggest troll as a means to fill the multiple voids in his lonely useless pathetic life. ~ TheeOSU ~ August 4, 2022
  • TheeOSU
    2 years ago
    That's right!
  • herbtcat
    2 years ago
    Mutual consent can be revoked at any time - even if she's a stripper whose nipples are in your mouth. Lactating women experience physiological changes from day to day, and even hour to hour. If you have an established relationship (as a return customer) with her and you didn't ask after the dance if she is OK, then you are making assumptions with less than perfect information. Yes, we are all full-scale perv PL's, and dancers are sex workers. But PL's and strippers are real people with real life stresses. She's not a coin-operated titty-suck vending machine. My advice: go back to the club and show some empathy. Then ask her if she is still comfortable with the "old" behaviors
  • TheeOSU
    2 years ago
    Probably a closet neo nazi too.
  • TheeOSU
    2 years ago
    ^ That's re: cj
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Georg, i am a younger guy, and actually that dancer that day was complimenting me much more than usual especially as she had seen my couple year old super ripped muscular pictures. But something about that nipple activating stuff i didnt like, so i just stopped going. I felt we had a prior agreement that nipple play was fine. It wasnt an issue in any previous dances. She suddenly created this “rule” halfway through a dance. I had already paid, and obviously the club isnt going to refund because a dancer didnt let me touch the nipples for the full duration of the dance. The moral transgression was too much for me to bear, so I had trouble going in. I did eventually go in months later, and she was extremely pissed at me. I had already mentioned pornstar escorts to her, and with me being gone a few months, i think she was assuming i was banging pornstars the whole time. When I saw her in person, and told her about my other addictions eating up my money, she gave me an extremely crazy glare, looked like she was ready to stab or slap me. Ive never seen anything like it. In reality i didn’t actually see any escorts, but i was going to do it, but would get tok tired and cancel the appointment. Obviously from her perspective she may be thinking im with escorts the whole time. Herbcat, i just dont feel comfortable asking her for anything or being affiliated with her at all. We had a deal, iin the first 3 dances regarding the nipple play. Suddenly , halfway through the 4th final dance, she suddenly changes her mind, starts slapping my hands lightly and says stop you’re activating my nipple. Her nipples were extremely hard but I thought they always are, I don’t remember. And she didnt have any issue squirting milk the previous several dances. She broke our agreement halfway through a dance so she cant be trusted. I can tell she was very angry i went away for several months. Even more angry because she suspected i was banging pornstar escorts. And this all serves her right for her moral transgressions. That last dance was basically a scam. I just can’t affiliate with scammers and cheaters. I liked her dances, but it’s unfortunate she behaved this way.
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Daily grind, the tutoring i got on here was actually why i got some repeat dances from the dancer. People on here and other sites said if you keep getting dances, the dancers get looser and looser with boundaries. And also, i wanted to try the milk so that kept me going for a couple more dances. But this was a whole reverse psychology mess up. This girl literally got stricter and stricter with each successive dance as if shes going on a power trip or has some mental issue going on. From knowing her, she has pretty low self esteem, gets extremely jealous and possessive anytime I mention another dancer or escort. She herself asked me which dancers are my favorite then started getting all pissed when i mentioned them even though i included her. With this type of low self esteem person, basically the better you treat them the more respect they lose for you. Its really unfortunate since i dont want to intentionally treat someone badly. I just stopped seeing her entirely as the pattern wasn’t going well. I had heard about this type of personality before but never understood it the way I do now. I disappeared for a few months then when i saw her next she was so angry she looked like she wanted to smack me. She didnt ask me for dances and i didnt ask her, i got dances with someone else. I think she has some sort of daddy issues where she hates men and wants to abuse them. Its very odd in the dances she acts excessively submissive other than random boundaries that can change at any moment. Outside of the dances she has a lot of anger, wants to boss me around, sometimes insults me over text. One time when getting a dance, she saw the stack of money in my pocket, then was trying to grab a $20 out of my pocket to try to force me to tip her during the dance. Lol! I spent $400 on her one time, then wanted to do $200 the next time i was there, and she went all crazy running around the club. She ran 10 feet away to a different table, then looked at me from there, and continued the convo telling me she’s not going to do a $200 dance. Its really crazy stuff i think its gone far beyond what a dancer client relationship is supposed to be. Getting so angry over me being gone a couple months, i dont know if thats regular dancer behavior. I would think with them getting paid for dances, they’re supposed to tolerate things like customers leaving and coming back. I would like to eventually get dances with her, partially just to see more of this laughable behavior.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    It's a nice way of telling you to stop touching her coz she doesn't like it.
  • iknowbetter
    2 years ago
    As a middle aged, somewhat out of shape white guy with thinning hair, and no sense of fashion, I have long since given up the notion that any young girl could get turned on by me, regardless of the amount of physical stimulation. Strippers are pros, so don’t flatter yourself. If she tells you she’s getting turned on, it’s just a line - like telling you that you have a big cock, and you’re not like all the other guys.
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Iknowbetter, it wasnt a line used by the dancer. It was the dancers behavior, she seems to be careful not to stimulate her pussy too much via grinding. Halfway through one dance, she said to stop touching her nipples cause im going to activate her nipples. She also has milk, but im not sure if activating meant milk or getting too turned on since she had no issue with milk in prior dances. Previois dances there was no issue with touching nipples or milk. It started randomly, halfway through one dance. Its a bit of a scam since you get the dances assuming rules are the same. Asking the rules before each dance seems troublesome and strange. The rules can change at whim. I couldn’t get dances with those kinds of rules
  • herbtcat
    2 years ago
    Quote: "Herbcat, i just dont feel comfortable asking her for anything or being affiliated with her at all. We had a deal, iin the first 3 dances regarding the nipple play. Suddenly , halfway through the 4th final dance, she suddenly changes her mind, starts slapping my hands lightly and says stop you’re activating my nipple. Her nipples were extremely hard but I thought they always are, I don’t remember. And she didnt have any issue squirting milk the previous several dances." If this is true just stop going to strip clubs all together. You are either too immature or you lack the social skills necessary to communicate with sex workers. Maybe it's time to take up stamp collecting, or get a goldfish?
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Why is that? I understand consent can be removed any time. It shouldn’t be my obligation to verify before each dance if unlimited nipple touching or something is allowed. That just seems odd. And the first 3 dances were fine, yet halfway through the 4th, with no warning or explanation, the “activating nipple excuse” came up. I get the hunch some of these things may even be intentional to make me look bad. Ive already paid the dance fee, and now the dancer has the full power to do anything she wants including not even allowing touching which is the point of the lap dance. I did stop going to that dancer, but the experience in itself was a scam, and potentially an attempt to emasculate me. She may have wanted to go on a power trip. For a power motivated person, they would be inclined to do something like get paid for a dance then sit around and do nothing. It makes them look and feel powerful. They got paid just for their mere existence. That kind of experience can leave you feeling emasculated , taken advantage of, etc.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    It's a nice way of telling you not to touch her. No woman who is genuinely turned on is going to tell you to stop touching her
  • san_jose_guy
    2 years ago
    BTE, you need to get the woman following your lead, not performing services upon you. So they way you do this is in the front room, and you do it by demonstrating generosity and charm. Usually at some point the shoulders will drop. So Front Room Feel Up And Make Out Session. Don't invite her to the back room until you really need it, like when your own pants are going to come down. SJG
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Icee, there are some dancers who literally have a boundary of not getting too turned on. Thats the whole point. If someone has a SO it’s possible they aim to not get too turned on durinf dances. Its just like how some dancers dont do sex or other things. They might want to, they might want to cheat, but they might avoid it due to loyalty. If you paid for a lapdance and a stripper is telling you to stop playing, that basically means you got scammed. There’s probably many many strippers who dont want to be touched by men. Thats the entire point of lapdances and paying money. Youre paying to touch the dancer if its a full contact dance.
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    This is a big big problem when customers are paying first. Theres potential tor scams on both sides. This is one of those things. Once you hand the money over, the power rests in the dancer. And it depends on whether the dancer wants to live up to her end of the bargain, wants you as a repeat customer etc or doesn’t care. Additionally some people are power driven and will want to get away with as little work done as possible. One dancer spent the first 5 minutes of a dance just laying her boobs on my stomach and talking to me. Its a power trip. I didnt get more dances
  • san_jose_guy
    2 years ago
    BTE if the dancer says you're getting her too turned on, she might mean that she wants you to fuck her, or take her home with you and fuck her. SJG Figueroa St. [view link] Jane - School of Rock [view link]
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
    2 years ago
    If she is really getting turned on she'll tell you to keep going not to stop. Uts a nice way to tell you to stop touching her. Don't lverthink it
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    SJG and Icee, i have to make a new thread regarding this, i wasnt specific enough
  • rickmacrodong
    2 years ago
    Icee that would be true unles she has a boundary of not cumming
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