Getting too turned on boundaries?
Do some dancers have boundaries about not getting too turned on during a dance?Some of the dances ive gotten it seems like they very carefully avoid grinding their pussy on the crotch or leg for too long of a time period. They’ll grind it, but switch positions often. Pussy touching is allowed, but only very minimally. Boob/nipple touching is allowed, but also with limits in some cases.
One dancer allowed playing with her nipples, but halfway through one dance said no more nipple play because i was “activating her nipple”.
What does that mean? This was a dancer with milk, so that choice of words could be interpreted in at least two ways. Either milk coming out, getting too turned on, or both. I felt a bit scammed since prior dances there wasn’t any sort of issue or mention of “activated nipples”, and she squirted milk with no problems previously.
It was basically a new rule, created out of thin air, halfway through the middle of a dance I already paid for. Had I known about this new “policy” I wouldn’t have even got the dance.
To have that as a boundary seems crazy to me. It’s basically putting limits on the lapdance which shouldn’t really be there. Obviously, it makes sense to not want customers causing physical harm. But to say “you can touch my pussy/ass/boobs, just as long as I don’t get too turned on” seems excessive. This wasn’t outright said, but it seems to be the implication.
Have you ran into a situation where a dancer had restrictions like this? A 15 minute or 30 minute dance where she wants to limit the amount and duration of touching, after the dance has started? Basically setting up new rules mid dance?
If you paid up front, you basically got scammed. I think it could also be a power trip, similar to how some dancers believe in the concept of finessing, like intentionally trying to do as little work as possible whilst getting the most money for it in order to brag about it to their friends. Kind of an embarrassing situation to be in, it’s kind of like a long term ROB type thing. You’d think the rules in each dance remain the same, but they can actually change in a split second, so you basically need to verify before each dance and hope they don’t turn into a ROB.
These sorts of things make it extremely difficult for me to get more than 2-3 dances with the same dancer. I think if you’re a “regular” customer whether ITC or OTC, the dancer may start to get too comfortable and start putting in less and less effort.
When I tested this out with one dancer, the first dance she was absolutely crazy, the fourth and final dance, weeks later, she spent the first 5 minutes just laying her boobs on me and talking. It sucks you basically can’t be too much of a regular or you’ll get taken advantage of. Had I continued to be a regular in that instance, I may eventually have been asked for money just to look at her. It seems like that’s where things would have been headed.
I think some people operate differently. If you spend more money on them they actually lose respect for you. You basically have to use reverse psychology, as someone with this kind of condition will likely be rejecting OTC offers of $600 but accepting OTC offers of $200. The more money you spend, the less they think of you. The less you spend, the more they think of you. It’s really sad stuff if you think about it. The more you see them, the more respect is lost, the less you see them, the more they respect you.
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she's lying and making excuses.
if she cuts back mileage, u cut back cash.
rip-off bitch mileage drop-off is why i stop at max 2 vips unless there's penetration. otc or move on.
The other behaviors like, allowing pussy touching but only for a little bit during the dance etc makes it seem like she has some rule of not reaching orgasm in the dances?
I already paid for the dance, so i couldnt do anything besides not get additional dances. Then she got all pissed when I stopped coming for a couple months.
But this is a new thing. It seemed like mileage remains the same, but in some cases the mileage will be the highest in the first dance then continuously get lower with each successive dance. I’m not sure if this is even done consciously or subconsciously due to some self esteem issue. As crazy as it sounds I think someone with this condition is more likely to accept a cheaper OTC offer than a higher one.
Its things like allowing touching of the pussy, but just not for long. The “activating the nipple” line makes it seem like something is going on.
SJG
if each dance is not getting more intense, i bail.
it's all being done intentionally.
i'm suprised u don't know all this by now with all our professional tutoring.
Once you get that FRMOS going, the girl is not going to have any boundaries left.
Don't take her into the backroom until you really need that, like when your pants are to come down.
SJG
SJG
BigThirdEye is just cacaplop trying to swamp these forums with repetitive, stupid questions, either via his own threads or crashing other threads.
But, as always, take a look at his posting history and judge for yourself.
If engaging with his inane posts is fun for you, then go for it.
Otherwise, don't think you're answering sincere questions.
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cjkunt is just an out of the closet communist that is only on tuscl to troll and agitate people because he's sorrowful and never satisfied with his dick pic collection.
He represents the epitome of hypocritical posting.
An immigrant who hates America yet praises his former country.
He's free to leave yet complains about our system but won't move to a system he praises.
Claims to champion poor people of color yet lives in upscale Brentwood away from those people and idolizes Marilyn Monroe a white blonde woman who happened to be rich and famous and a product of the system he claims to despise.
A typical fake liberal whose words are opposite of the life he lives.
Queerer than a 3 dollar bill.
His goal is to be TUSCL's biggest troll as a means to fill the multiple voids in his lonely useless pathetic life.
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Lactating women experience physiological changes from day to day, and even hour to hour.
If you have an established relationship (as a return customer) with her and you didn't ask after the dance if she is OK, then you are making assumptions with less than perfect information.
Yes, we are all full-scale perv PL's, and dancers are sex workers. But PL's and strippers are real people with real life stresses. She's not a coin-operated titty-suck vending machine.
My advice: go back to the club and show some empathy. Then ask her if she is still comfortable with the "old" behaviors
That's re: cj
But something about that nipple activating stuff i didnt like, so i just stopped going. I felt we had a prior agreement that nipple play was fine. It wasnt an issue in any previous dances. She suddenly created this “rule” halfway through a dance. I had already paid, and obviously the club isnt going to refund because a dancer didnt let me touch the nipples for the full duration of the dance. The moral transgression was too much for me to bear, so I had trouble going in. I did eventually go in months later, and she was extremely pissed at me.
I had already mentioned pornstar escorts to her, and with me being gone a few months, i think she was assuming i was banging pornstars the whole time. When I saw her in person, and told her about my other addictions eating up my money, she gave me an extremely crazy glare, looked like she was ready to stab or slap me. Ive never seen anything like it. In reality i didn’t actually see any escorts, but i was going to do it, but would get tok tired and cancel the appointment. Obviously from her perspective she may be thinking im with escorts the whole time.
Herbcat, i just dont feel comfortable asking her for anything or being affiliated with her at all. We had a deal, iin the first 3 dances regarding the nipple play. Suddenly , halfway through the 4th final dance, she suddenly changes her mind, starts slapping my hands lightly and says stop you’re activating my nipple. Her nipples were extremely hard but I thought they always are, I don’t remember. And she didnt have any issue squirting milk the previous several dances.
She broke our agreement halfway through a dance so she cant be trusted. I can tell she was very angry i went away for several months. Even more angry because she suspected i was banging pornstar escorts. And this all serves her right for her moral transgressions. That last dance was basically a scam. I just can’t affiliate with scammers and cheaters. I liked her dances, but it’s unfortunate she behaved this way.
But this was a whole reverse psychology mess up. This girl literally got stricter and stricter with each successive dance as if shes going on a power trip or has some mental issue going on. From knowing her, she has pretty low self esteem, gets extremely jealous and possessive anytime I mention another dancer or escort. She herself asked me which dancers are my favorite then started getting all pissed when i mentioned them even though i included her.
With this type of low self esteem person, basically the better you treat them the more respect they lose for you. Its really unfortunate since i dont want to intentionally treat someone badly. I just stopped seeing her entirely as the pattern wasn’t going well. I had heard about this type of personality before but never understood it the way I do now. I disappeared for a few months then when i saw her next she was so angry she looked like she wanted to smack me. She didnt ask me for dances and i didnt ask her, i got dances with someone else.
I think she has some sort of daddy issues where she hates men and wants to abuse them. Its very odd in the dances she acts excessively submissive other than random boundaries that can change at any moment. Outside of the dances she has a lot of anger, wants to boss me around, sometimes insults me over text. One time when getting a dance, she saw the stack of money in my pocket, then was trying to grab a $20 out of my pocket to try to force me to tip her during the dance. Lol!
I spent $400 on her one time, then wanted to do $200 the next time i was there, and she went all crazy running around the club. She ran 10 feet away to a different table, then looked at me from there, and continued the convo telling me she’s not going to do a $200 dance.
Its really crazy stuff i think its gone far beyond what a dancer client relationship is supposed to be. Getting so angry over me being gone a couple months, i dont know if thats regular dancer behavior. I would think with them getting paid for dances, they’re supposed to tolerate things like customers leaving and coming back. I would like to eventually get dances with her, partially just to see more of this laughable behavior.
Halfway through one dance, she said to stop touching her nipples cause im going to activate her nipples. She also has milk, but im not sure if activating meant milk or getting too turned on since she had no issue with milk in prior dances. Previois dances there was no issue with touching nipples or milk. It started randomly, halfway through one dance.
Its a bit of a scam since you get the dances assuming rules are the same. Asking the rules before each dance seems troublesome and strange.
The rules can change at whim. I couldn’t get dances with those kinds of rules
If this is true just stop going to strip clubs all together. You are either too immature or you lack the social skills necessary to communicate with sex workers. Maybe it's time to take up stamp collecting, or get a goldfish?
I did stop going to that dancer, but the experience in itself was a scam, and potentially an attempt to emasculate me. She may have wanted to go on a power trip. For a power motivated person, they would be inclined to do something like get paid for a dance then sit around and do nothing. It makes them look and feel powerful. They got paid just for their mere existence.
That kind of experience can leave you feeling emasculated , taken advantage of, etc.
So they way you do this is in the front room, and you do it by demonstrating generosity and charm. Usually at some point the shoulders will drop. So Front Room Feel Up And Make Out Session.
Don't invite her to the back room until you really need it, like when your own pants are going to come down.
SJG
If someone has a SO it’s possible they aim to not get too turned on durinf dances.
Its just like how some dancers dont do sex or other things. They might want to, they might want to cheat, but they might avoid it due to loyalty.
If you paid for a lapdance and a stripper is telling you to stop playing, that basically means you got scammed.
There’s probably many many strippers who dont want to be touched by men. Thats the entire point of lapdances and paying money. Youre paying to touch the dancer if its a full contact dance.
Additionally some people are power driven and will want to get away with as little work done as possible.
One dancer spent the first 5 minutes of a dance just laying her boobs on my stomach and talking to me. Its a power trip. I didnt get more dances
SJG
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