Another guy with Vegas questions.

You can find anything you want in Vegas - for a price.

Here's the best advice I can give you:

1. Read the Vegas club reviews here, at least for the top 8 clubs (by number of reviews). Read all of the reviews since the COVID reopening - around January, 2022 to get the current context of what your club experience will be like.
2. Skip the Strip/Hotel burlesque shows - that's anywhere up to $300+ per seat for a show you can see on Cinemax. Not worth it.
3. And this is the MOST IMPORTANT advice I have: Do not take your wife to any strip club. It will not go well - ever.

Have fun!

I've done a lot of reading over the last few days, including looking at pics and vids of the clubs, and the Google 360 virtual tours to look around at them. I'm thinking CH3 and Treasures look nice. Thoughts?

Re:Burlesque Shows: Can you actually see them on Cinemax? Or are you just suggesting Cinemax has a lot of nudity in its programming? Cuz I'd absolutely get a subscription to watch HD theatre shows. Also, I'm seeing tix for like $65 for Fantasy, $100 for X Burlesque, max. Then again, all the front row seats seem unavailable, are those the expensive ones in question?

If you want "glitzy" I'd recommend Treasures or Sapphire. Both are reasonably nice inside. I thought Treasures tried harder to be "fancy"; whether they succeeded will depend on your perspective and how the night goes. For what it's worth, the dinner I had at Treasures was pretty good, and not terribly priced for Vegas if you get it with the entrance/VIP seat/drink package. Neither place is going to be cheap.

If you want a more engrossing stage show, I think Palomino is the best bet. Every time I've been to Vegas, the stage performances there have been significantly better than any of the other clubs. It's also full nude with alcohol if you care about either, and their drinks are not as expensive as other Vegas clubs. The Palomino is not at all fancy, however, and shows its age in a few places. It's not a dive, but it's significantly smaller and more basic than Treasures or Sapphire.

The only burlesque performance I've been to is "Zombie Burlesque". I went near Halloween, which added a layer of entertainment as some in the audience were dressed up, but I believe it runs all year long. It is not remotely a strip performance (definitely more nudity on Cinemax). But as a theatrical production, I was entertained. It was light hearted, had some decent burlesque dancing by attractive people, and better than expected singing.

Another show option would be Opium. It's a variety show, with different performers at different times. The various acts (contortion, stomping, crazy roller-skate stunting, etc) are strung together with very raunchy jokes. The low-brow humor makes it at least adjacent to the more straight-forward boobs-and-music shows.

As for the burlesque shows, please see Fantasy. I’ve seen all of these topless/burlesque shows and Fantasy blows them all out of the water. Hot, super talented dancers, usually an aerialist, and a great singer that hosts the whole show. Have a fun trip!

@schmoe31415 Palomino seems like a really, sort of... dingy place. Like, it looks way older than it has any right to be. With my preferences in mind - glitzy, high-quality stage shows - are you sure it's where I want to go? If not, then Treasures seems like my destination. Full nude is nice, though... I went to a comedy show tonight, and the comedian made a joke about, er, reading her lips, and if it's as good as I hope, I'd be reading page after page.

I briefly looked into Zombie Burlesque, and it seems more like a comedy show than anything sexy.

Haven't heard about Opium. I'll google it.

@collegeguy843, that was my thought process. It seems like Fantasy reigns supreme, so I think I'd like to go there. What do you think of the others I listed, those being X Burlesque, X Country, and Rouge?

I agree with herbtcat 100%

None of the Strip Burlesque/Topless shows are likely to provide any real "spank-worthy" memories for you, unless you can JO to the Victoria's Secret catalog. These are professionally produced stage shows that will lean much more to "tasteful nudity=art" than grinding tits in your face and rubbing snatch on your junk like you will get at a strip club like Treasures.

The showgirls on the strip are professional dancers, professionally trained, and generally not strippers nor hookers on the DL (unless you are ridiculously rich and a known Vegas "Whale").

So what are you really looking for?

I'm looking for excellently performed, tasteful nudity amidst choreographed dancing set to fun music, because I've recently come to understand that it's exciting to me. And I could totally jerk it to the Victoria's Secret catalog, especially in-person. >.>

I have a wife for tits in face and pussy on dick. She just doesn't know how to dance like that... yet. That said, she and I talked and she's not okay with strip clubs anymore. She didn't realize quite how physical lapdances are, until I explained. Unsurprising, probably my fault, married life be like that. She's quite interested in a Burlesque Show, though, so it looks like we'll be enjoying Fantasy at some point.

Anything else we should do when we're in town? I saw there's an "erotic history" museum that looks pretty dingy, is that of any interest to anyone under the age of 70? Any other fun things to do on a date night in Vegas?

I would've reccomended my club, The Library, it's fully nude , ( you can just watch the stage , no need for lapdanaces if you too well ! ) The burlesque shows can be hit or miss but deffinatley worth putting in extra research in the reviews, Vegas is a VERY scammy and deceiving city! Enjoy your honeymoon regardless! Maybe if your wife changes her mind I'll see y'all soon ☺️

bottom line.

bring LOTS OF MONEY.

3k ain’t gonna be enough.

1k always did it for me for one night pre-covid. It bought strip clubs, night club, and after hours. I will wait until the right opportunity comes along, and if it doesn’t I fold and wait for another outing to try my luck. My thoughts are you’re already trying to maximize your outing, but prepare to be flexible, and keep your head on a swivel. One of my favorite outings was playing black Jack with a random stripper/escort, basically we were winning and sharing stories of the trade. She said her night winning wasn’t as much, but easier and more fun. She made about $300-400, and I scored $200. $20 table with only 3-4 players at the table for an hour.

Newlywed wants to take new wife to Vegas to go to strip clubs? Either your wife is a 9 or 10 or you're in for some stuff. No matter how secure she thinks she is, Vegas clubs are like the all star circuit if you go anywhere decent. I haven't been to Vegas in about five years, but CH3 wouldn't be my first choice. It's close to the strip and that's about all it has going for it.

I didn't know the Library was still open, but had fun there years ago. Basically I stopped going to Vegas clubs after OG closed because it was either ultra clubs or dives unless you felt like driving for a while. Last time in town I got so annoyed by CH3 I didn't do any more clubs that week. If I were there anytime soon I'd probably check out the Library just to see Sukki, but I digress...

I was in the same position a few months ago. I decided to skip burlesque because why see titties far away rather than up close. I probably will take in a show next time but nudity probably won't influence my decision which. I chose to go to Sapphire but I get the impression Treasures gives a fancier vibe. I had a good time...posted a review.

Change of situation - my amazing, wonderful, incredible, beautiful wife has purchased tickets to Fantasy and a room at a major hotel as a combo Christmas/Birthday present, and we're likely to go see some non-sexy shows. However, she's also bisexual, and we've been opening up more and more about our sexual interests lately - she likes BDSM, I like strippers - and for that reason she's suggested we try going to a strip club to see if she likes it.

My goals:

I want her to have a good, sexy time.
-She doesn't want to be overwhelmed by the environment. I figure that's gonna be tough, a lot of these places try to really ramp it up.
-She doesn't want an overwhelming amount of attention, either patrons looking at her or a constant flood of dancers. I don't think any patrons are gonna be looking at her, as opposed to the naked women all around them, and from experience I think the amount of attention just depends on day and time. I also think she would want conversationalist dancers, rather than "do you want a dance?" being their opening line.
-She doesn't want the venue to feel grimy, slimy, or shady, she wants a classy establishment.

I don't want to break the bank.
-To me, that means avoiding VIP dances in Vegas.
-However, the common setup here in Phoenix - cheap table dances, affordable dances in a semi-private booth or chair - is quite doable.
-Neither of us have any great interest in bottle service, or otherwise getting a ton of alcohol.

I don't want her to be jealous or otherwise upset.
-I have already committed to being completely done with strip clubs. She's suggesting we try it out, so there's a sliiiiiim chance that we end up being one of those couples that occasionally attends together. I would like that, I think.
-That said, I am committed to bailing out the moment she's done. The moment she says she wants to leave, we're leaving, she knows that, I know that.
-I want her to get a dance or three before me, so she sees quickly if she likes the experience or not. I am perfectly fine not getting a single lapdance myself.
-I'm not getting a single dance without her permission, nor do I intend to leave her sight with another lady, so if I'm getting a dance, she's gonna be there too.

All of this is because I want her to enjoy herself, so maybe we can do it again some time.

Now, I have done a ton of research at this point, and collated it all into a spreadsheet, because she likes seeing research and well-organized documents. I have read reviews on here, as well as lesser sources like google, thrillist, and so on. I have watched two youtubers and their videos discussing all the clubs in Vegas. Might have enjoyed their B-Roll content of each club, too. After aaaaaaaaaaaaaaall that, I've got about six clubs that I think could work.

Here's the current conclusion:

The three clubs that came out on top are CH3, Spearmint Rhino, and Sapphires, for slightly varying reasons. I broadly lump these three together.

However, Treasures - which doesn't have a listed score here - looks like it hits the right notes, with a separate space where we could get dinner and acclimate, but also a nice-looking facade, and a well-decorated interior.

The other thought I have though, is that she might prefer to try something more local first, conserve our funds, and so on. Towards that end, I was thinking either Bourbon Street Circus or Christie's Cabaret in Tempe. Bourbon Street for the attractive dancers and relatively good pricing, plus with how dark they keep the place, I feel like she'd be less concerned with other people looking at her. Christie's, however, has dramatically better decor, last I was there, and is less popular, so I figure we'll have a calmer time, which she would like.

Some Vegas eliminations:
Palomino is in a shady part of town, she's not down for that and frankly neither am I.
Same with Chicas Bonitas.
Little Darlings scores low and looks like it'll make her skin crawl.
Sophia's looks nice, but doesn't seem very popular from reviews.

Some Phoenix eliminations:
ABCO has a newly renovated topless side, but the nude side is always dead, and the area is awful.
Jaguars is similar for the area, but moreover, it's a party atmosphere that's sure to overwhelm.
I have been to Sugar 44 and was utterly unimpressed. I think the only people who like it must be old regulars, man.
We are close to Candy Store, but she doesn't go to bars to begin with, so why go to a bar with titties? Besides, it's a biiiit grungy.

We've got the three well-reviewed winners of Vegas - Crazy Horse 3, Spearmint Rhino, and Sapphires - as well as Treasures, Bourbon Street Circus in Phoenix, or Christie's Cabaret in Phoenix. Vote Now? Where should I take my bicurious lady? Any personal experiences highly appreciated.

Stick with Phoenix....Vegas clubs are expensive and overrated.

Come on, Scrubbie, I'm not looking for hookers. Do you have an actual opinion here on any of my proposed destinations, or nah?

Go to Christie’s. It’s like dipping your toe into the shallow end of the pool. Hot dancers, classy club and little mileage. Lots of women say they are interested until they actually see what goes on in a strip club. Start with something low risk. You’ve got your entire marriage to ramp it up. Don’t cut your marriage short because your wife thinks you’re depraved when she sees a high mileage lap dance.

Alright, that answers that question.

Anybody *sane* have an opinion on where to take my bicurious wife? Ideally somebody with the ability to comprehend what other people write.

@JimmyMcNulty, that's some good feedback, thank you. And again, I'm not interested in ramping it up. I know it may seem weird, but I'm into dancers dancing, and that's it. Maybe getting a handful of titty or giving her a slap on her ass, but no more. It's just not my thing. I've never been into Hiliter in Phoenix, for instance - all the reviews here tell me that's where I'd go for a discrete handy or more, and I don't want that, nor do I want to be somewhere with that reputation.

I just want dancers dancing, on stage, on me, or if she's into it, on my wife - nothing more. It was that way before I met my wife, and it's that way after. So low-mileage, classy clubs are where I want to be.

Quick thoughts,

Vegas is different. Way different than anywhere else. It's such a weird place but that said I've been here for a while traveling for work and it's fun. It's no Miami, Dallas, or Los Angeles but I think it's good enough.

I've been to a few clubs but goddamn the hustle factor is high. It's impossible to simply chill at a bar, watch the stage without getting asked for a dance over and over. They do not like being told no. The only good thing is that there are a lot of girls and the booze is strong. Air dances are a thing. Watch out.

For the regulars, how are you playing at Vegas clubs? Do you mostly go during the weeknight and weekend afternoon? And for those commenting about Casino girls - I haven't found any? What am I looking for exactly or is it just too cold and out of season? I was out around the Cosmo, Flamingo, Bellagio, Aira, Linq, etc. two weeks ago and no one particularly attractive stuck out. Where, what time, what should I wear, etc. If I am trying to find Casino girls?

Last Call, folks.

We decided against anything local - my amazing wife is more interested in a Las Vegas club. In her own words, she'd rather have a "crazy, sinful Vegas experience," rather than "something just around the corner." I'm hopeful I can change her mind, but point is, we're gonna do a Vegas club.

So, I'm currently staring down Treasures, Sapphires, and Crazy Horse 3.

Treasures, I like for its seemingly high-end atmosphere and the opportunity to enjoy dinner before getting fully immersed in the stripclubbery. Or, rather, I expect my amazing, incredible, beautiful wife will appreciate those aspects. Note: They have a couples package or an individuals package we'd double up on, each of which I like. Individuals: Round-trip transport (from and to our hotel), VIP Admission, VIP Table, Three Premium Cocktails each, $60x2=$120; OR add some chocolate strawberries for $200. I rather learn towards the former. Chocolate is, I imagine, rather easy to come by on the Las Vegas Strip. That said, I know a dozen places to get chocolate strawberries here in PHX, just none of them in a cabaret. Still, that's $120 for six drinks, VIP Seating, and VIP admin. I understand most clubs will provide transport for free or cheap because ride shares and taxis demand a similar fee from them, so not including them in the value calc.

Sapphire, I like for the immersion aspect. My wife doesn't want too much attention on her, and is worried other patrons will stare at her. From experience, I know that that's hardly the case - any time I've seen a female patron in a strip club, I've thought "huh, neat, lesbian or bi." and then ejected her from my mind. Still, it's the largest strip club around, it's got tons of dancers, and we'll have an easy time blending in. Their couples package at a cost of $225, includes "$200 beverage credit, Complimentary transportation to Sapphire, Front-of-line admission for 2 guest, No cover charge, Reserved Seating at Sapphire LV, Tax & service fee included upon checkout." I'd say the beverage credit and tax+fees even out to zero, so the transport, admission, cover, and seating are the benefits at play.

Crazy Horse 3, I'm torn on, because it has excellent reviews, but its packages seem weak. Sapphire has an instagram account and google 360 views; Treasures has 360 views too, which allow me to scope a place out before arriving there. Both locations hover around $200 for a couples' package, but CH3 has "Premium Transportation to CH3, No Admission Charge, Guaranteed Main Room Seating, $50 Beverage Voucher" for one person for $69, or two people just shy of $140 (and $100 drink voucher).

So, in sum:
Treasures: $120 for Transport (Round Trip), quick admission, VIP table, and six drinks. Option to add some Chocolate Strawberries for another $80. Winning Edge: Refined Atmosphere.
Sapphire: $225 for Transport (One Way), quick admission, VIP table, and $200 beverage credit. Winning Edge: biggest strip club, least attention on my wife, which I imagine is counteracted by our VIP seating - would greatly appreciate anecdotal experience regarding VIP seating here.
Crazy Horse 3: $140 for Transportation (One Way), no cover, Guaranteed Main Room Seating, $50x2 Beverage Voucher. Winning Edge: refined exterior, strong reviews, seems the best of the three overall but not in any one category.

As a reminder, my wife wants a mid-attention experience in a classy venue in which she feels comfortable expressing her girl-likes-girl side. She has stated that Las Vegas is a different thing, for several reasons, mainly that it's a place where you can say "fuck it, it's Vegas," and do things you wouldn't normally do.

So, of the three, which should we visit? We're going on the Third of March, so the clock is a-ticking, folks! Last call for votes!

Don't take your wife to a strip club, it's a bad idea. Best case scenario you have an expensive night of air dances. Worst case scenario you're into "is she hotter than me" territory or she figures out that there actually is sex in the champagne room and you are hence banned from SC's. Find a bdsm club, wear some latex pants or whatever, watch the freaks, go home and rail your wife. Go to SCs by yourself or with male friends.

@herbtcat said: "And this is the MOST IMPORTANT advice I have: Do not take your wife to any strip club. It will not go well - ever."

@wallanon said: "Newlywed wants to take new wife to Vegas to go to strip clubs? Either your wife is a 9 or 10 or you're in for some stuff. No matter how secure she thinks she is, Vegas clubs are like the all star circuit if you go anywhere decent."

@drewcareypnw said: "Don't take your wife to a strip club, it's a bad idea. Best case scenario you have an expensive night of air dances. Worst case scenario you're into "is she hotter than me" territory or she figures out that there actually is sex in the champagne room and you are hence banned from SC's."

Alright, gents, time to report in.

On Friday the 3rd we checked into an on-strip hotel. It was a delightful experience. I was truly awed by the sheer scale of the architecture involved. We booked ourselves a couple tickets to Cirque du Soleil's Mystere at Treasure Island - CdS's longest-running show. It was incredible, an absolute delight, and after, we found ourselves out on the strip with some time and energy to spare.

So, with a little convincing, we decided to go to a club. After all my extensive research, I picked Treasures.

We got one of their free cabs - I did not purchase any of their packages, and so paid the cover for each of us, to the tune of about $40 each. The driver, before that, picked us up in a stretch SUV Limo. The ride was not terribly pleasant - every corner was difficult to handle, from the back seat. We chatted a little with the driver, ended up giving him a $20 tip - it was a free ride otherwise, after all, and I had goofed on our location when I told him we were at one hotel when we were in fact awaiting him at the next one up the strip.

Oops, didn't mean to submit that yet. Continued....

We arrived at Treasures - which I had elected for its fancier atmosphere immediately upon her consent - around 10pm. I decided on Treasures because the reviews had told me it was mid-mileage, and the online presence had told me it was relatively fancy. Again, $40 cover each, for a couple, did not engage in the steakhouse part of the establishment.

After paying the cover and getting two drink tokens each - which were valued at $19 each, but Las Vegas pricing is indeed quite insane so a shot of Jameson cost more than that, prompting me to take another whiskey brand - after paying that cover and getting the drink tokens, we were led to a table rather near the main stage. Now, I say that, and you savvy internet researchers might think I mean the theatre-style stage at the end of the room, with a google 360 view from on top of it available. No, the Main Stage was the first one ladies performed on, in the middle of the room, with a dozen chairs around it. As some dancers have described it across the web, it's a single oval stage with a "pervert zone" all around it. Ladies go to the theatre-style stage after that one, at least from 10pm to midnight. When those ladies go to the theatre-style stage, they look bored as hell, because no one pays them any attention.

Once we sat down, we were approached pretty soon by a dancer who said "hi" and then immediately asked if we wanted a dance. My amazing wife thinks and feels slowly and fully before making decisions, and after years of experience, I knew weeks and weeks ago what he response would be, even if she took the time to think about it. I told that dancer that we were not interested, she bailed, and we carried on our conversation. Another dancer appeared a few minutes after, calling herself Renee. Renee was delightful as regards talking to my first-timer wife and helping her to feel more comfortable. If anyone managing Treasures is reading this, give Renee a bonus for me. I ended up giving her a hefty tip, but she deserves a lot for how well she helped my thoroughly-processing wife process.

We chatted with Renee for a while, but my wife wasn't ready for any dances, so we asked her to come back later. We were visited over the next half hour or so by about six girls, but waived off each of them. Eventually, she asked me to ask for Renee again. The waitress we had - who by the way was also smoking hot, as were all of them - didn't recognize her by name, but oddly enough, my amazing wife found her when she went to the Restroom. Then, my wife got a lapdance (floor, $20), and rather enjoyed it. We dismissed Renee to discuss: one of the most important parts of this experience was that we were in constant communication, I had told her time and time again that she had the "Abort" button to stop all dances, pay, and leave immediately, and that I would not purchase any services whatsoever without her consent. We discussed her experience (which was broadly "that was fun, but I felt so awkward") and she said I should get a dance, from a dancer she approved of. I know why she wanted approval - several reasons, all of which I love her for, none of which I'll post on here, but suffice to say they have to do with her romantic history and none of which are, to me, ridiculous. I got a dance, it was fun, but damn do I not care for fake boobs. This particular dance sent that home for me. Naturals all the way for me, for which my wife is weeeeeeeeeeell-equipped.

So, she got a dance, we talked, I got a dance, we talked, she picked out a dancer on stage at the moment, handed me a few singles, and told me to ask her for a couples dance. I forget the lady's name, but we had a good single floor dance split between the two of us. At one moment, the dancer told my wife to stand up, and they both shoved their tits in my face - though obviously my wife remained clothed. That may, in fact, have been the single hottest moment of my life. I cherish it as I write this.

So, my wife got a floor dance, I got a floor dance, we got a couples floor dance. The club provided a limo back to our on-strip hotel, I tipped the driver - who was far superior to the first driver - well, and we went to bed.

The next night, we went to Fantasy. My wife, as a birthday present to me, had gotten us second-row tickets, which I think were perfect. First row, bad angle and high likelihood of the half-time comedy magician fucking with you. Third row, too far away to appreciate the z-axis movement of the show, and also likely to experience non-sexy audience participation. Second Row, dead center in seats 12 and 13, was perfect. I thoroughly enjoyed the show, and so did my amazing bi-curious wife.

Here are my takeaways:

Treasures:
The dances on the floor were a little airy, but not much. I think the chairs being on rollers gave the dancers fewer options. We didn't engage in any private entertainment, but my wife enjoyed her dance relatively well, and was mostly fine with mine, until the dancer pulled out a few particular moves that simulated sex - you know, like slamming her ass on my lap a dozen times as if riding my cock.
The environment is good, but it doesn't feel as fancy as the internet pictures and google 360 make it look. The lights are dimmer, there's no focus whatsoever on the statues or art, I would not pick this place for the artistic environs. The lights get low by the time we arrived, and the lights are low, making it look and feel like a slightly-above-average club.

Fantasy: Someone else suggested that it was unlikely to provide any spankworthy memories. I lightly disagree - my personal fetishes meshed well, but I can see why others might not jack off to it. That said, if you are in the audience for this show and don't pop a boner even once, either you have a godly sex life, or you need to stop watching porn. Not "slow down" your porn consumption, I said "stop."

Wife: She had a good time, but was close to calling it "done" after a few specific moves by a dancer. She does not mind me looking, she minds me *engaging in* the feminine of negotiable affections.

Based on our lengthy conversations afterwards, I think she'd happily redo Fantasy again, or go to any other Vegas burlesque. I also think the best thing for her regarding Strip Clubs, now that we're home, is to go to one solo with a wad of cash, determined to spend it all.

Regardless, she had a good time at Treasures with some hiccough elements relating to other ladies on me, thoroughly enjoyed the show to the point of having a favorite dancer vis-a-vis her own sexual attractions, which she shared with me, and did an excellent job communicating her numerous and complicated feelings on the matter with me over the next few days.

So, my relationships isn't over, we didn't have a massive argument, she just experienced some elements of my sexual attractions and interests, and found herself enjoying it.

So, if that's not yo' girl, that's not surprising. As @wallanon said, my wife must be a 9 or 10, because I was not in for too terribly much stuff.

Will we go again? Unlikely but possible.

Did she have a good time? Yes, she and her bi-curious ass did.