Well you're certainly a pro so speaking for all of TUSCL let me be the first to thank you for sharing your expertise and vast knowledge of stripper hoes.
Obviously the best way to seduce stripper hoes would be to impersonate a world famous expert, you!
So my question is when introducing ourselves as you do we say our name is...
davids?
dougster?
phatboi?
iceyloco?
ceoicey?
eltriste?
2icey?
one of your other posting names?
a new name you haven't thought up or used yet but eventually will?
I bet I'm not the only one eagerly awaiting your answer so please respond ASAP!
I have to say that I'm not surprised by all the positive feedback and support for this thread and I'm sure that iceydougster agrees. He's such a respected member here, a pillar of the TUSCL community, Lulz!
>>”CIM and 20fag. You’re welcome to stop giving me attention “<<
Don’t flatter yourself speaking for myself I find you to be a tremendous source of humor, Iceefag, you are the epitome of the unintentionally funny moron
LULZ
I have over ten years experience in seducing men and women to where they are willing to take me to a private area where I am given the opportunity to learn more about them. I like to offer therapeutic methods of stress release to clients, who then pay me for my services. I also have over 15 years of customer service and sales experience. I'm a go getter and eager to learn. Those are just some of my qualifications.
The thing with pimping is its about accountability more than anything. Girls who seek out pimps don't want to be accountable for things and just want things taken care of for them. That's a key trait pretty much all of them have from what I've heard.
Estafador. Pretty much. Except for the watch part. Trying to act like you have money just attracts golddiggers. But a unique or nice looking watch works
I don't wear a watch, a wedding ring, any ring, a bracelet, a chain, an anklet, I have no tattoos, I have no wallet, and except when I am dressed for battle at work, I take pride in being the single worst dressed person on earth. No one, especially not a dancer trained to size up potential customers, is ever going to guess my occupation, financial situation or even my age for that matter. I have never had an issue in a club getting attention. Never. Anywhere. People have an aura. Some are inviting, some are not.
You're certainly a pro so speaking for all of TUSCL let me be the first to thank you for sharing your expertise and vast knowledge of stripper hoes.
Obviously the best way to seduce stripper hoes would be to impersonate a world famous expert, you!
So my question is when introducing ourselves as you do we say our name is...
davids?
dougster?
txtittyfag?
phatboi?
iceyloco?
ceoicey?
eltriste?
2icey?
one of your other posting names?
a new name you haven't thought up or used yet but eventually will?
I bet I'm not the only one eagerly awaiting your answer so please respond ASAP homie lulz!
The thing is these girls feel so dead inside and hate the fake world they live in. They crave feeling something real and being accepted and supported just as they are.
A dead inside girl? Like you. Your parents should have been spayed and neutered...before you were conceived. You literally know absolutely nothing about women. Zero, just like your value as a human being.
Icey, some of these girls, especially those who habitually use chemical mood alterants you never will be able to relate to because they are not able to relate to themselves, they don't live in their own skin. And the prescription mood alterants are at least as bad as the street variety.
You can't follow this PUA logic of "seducing" women or "picking up on them". That implies that you are somehow pulling the wool over their eyes, doing something which is adversarial and besting them.
If you are open and honest with them, things might work out very well right off.
Now coming out of a strip club and perhaps being accustomed to P4P, she might want cash. Don't make her wrong for this. She deals with all sorts of guys who say all sorts of things to her, but she never sees them again. She knows this. So cash is just her getting the backend insurance up front. And besides, getting involved with a woman is always opening a huge can of worms. Likely as not there will be escalating direct monetary costs. So let her know you are "taking care of her". Don't ever make her wrong for expecting money, or for whatever she does with other people.
It's like I have read about Mexico, if you challenge them they will just say, "Marry me right now cabrone."
Cabrone = cuckold, but it is like we would say, bastard.
She is just trying to get by in her life. If you play it right, you'll be just like GACA, who very soon had his girl move in with him, and soon after they were married. I am not recommending this, but this is what can happen.
Women like guys who have their life together, staring with the economics. They want regular reliable income, and doing something that leads somewhere. I am not saying this is a completely fair or reasonable expectation. Our economic system is totally unfair. But this is still what women look to. At least you have to be applying yourself and making progress.
From my point of view what really disarms women is when a guy has deliberately selected her and is moving on her because just something about her makes it so that he has to.
See if the girl has to initiate, then that means that any other girl could do the same with him. He is chicken to go after girls unless they open a door, so it is up to the girls.
But if he selects and initiates, then he knows what he wants and he is secure enough to extend himself.
And of course, if you have selected her, as soon as she lets her guard down she is getting kissed. There is no law against this anywhere. And you aren't intending to start a discussion about this or ask permission. You are King of the World and all women belong to you. So you can have which ever one you select and she will go along with this. Kissing her completely takes her off script, its like how a washing machine shifts from Agitate to Spin.
You've got her right there, so let things go as far as they can and have the next meeting set up. Try to take her to your own bed that night.
Worst case where she won't give up contact info, find out when her next shift starts and tell her you'll be there at that time and do so.
All painted up and ready to go at both ends. As it looks you don't really have to take anything off of her. So she is not just in a slut uniform, she is in an action uniform, or an orgy uniform. And that is what you really need to fully enjoy, to be able to put on a show with her.
It depresses me without end thinking of how many years I had to settle for vastly less in a woman. Needless to say, My Organization will maximize this kind of dressed and painted up for immediate front room action look.
Yes, but at core in this is that you want to fuck her brains out. She has to feel this in her bones or this will never go anywhere. If she is open to that happening right away, but just asking for what in the broader scheme of things is a modest sum of money, they give it to her.
If you don't want to give her this money, then you need to go to venues where women don't do P4P and won't ask for money.
SJG
All painted up and ready to go at both ends. As it looks you don't really have to take anything off of her. So she is not just in a slut uniform, she is in an action uniform, or an orgy uniform. And that is what you really need to fully enjoy, to be able to put on a show with her.
It depresses me without end thinking of how many years I had to settle for vastly less in a woman. Needless to say, My Organization will maximize this kind of dressed and painted up for immediate front room action look.
The more open and honest you are with them about your identity, your occupation, contact info right off, then the less likely they are to see you as P4P.
But if she wants money I would say just give it to her and say, "let me take care of you."
Trying to get her to fuck for free is like trying to make her jump through hoops, which is wrong. Most of the time women are not really free.
If you met her in a civvie night club, she probably would fuck for free, because you don't see her as P4P.
But in a strip club where a lot of them do P4P, and where she is seen as P4P, then asking her to fuck for free is disrespectful.
Just give her what she wants and bone her regularly and before you know it she will be all yours, getting much more than you bargained for likely.
Do her on her hormonal upslope, from when aunt flow leaves, till about 10 days out. Do her everyday and she won't have any emotional defenses left.
Right! ^ This from a dimwit with a sewn up asshole who swears chevy had a 298ci small block, thinks firefox is called foxfire, etc etc etc.
Yeah we can bank on your word, Lol!
Sjg fucking her for free is normal. That's normal sex. It's about a connection and how you make each other feel. When you have attraction and a connection then sex comes naturally.
Icey, sex with women is rarely free. They want to see some commitment being made right up front. In civvie situations this is usually marriage eligibility. In P4P situations this is just cash up front.
If you met a strip club dancer in the supermarket check out line, you might be able to get her purely civvie.
But in the strip club in a slut uniform and painted up like a slut, she will much more likely want to have that cash up front. This not always true, but often it is.
So which do you want, the full stripper regalia, or the soccer mom look? Usually their are presentation lines women will not cross unless they are to be paid.
I, for one, love the full stripper regalia and instant sex, so I will go for that.
Now to replicate that in other situations and where there might not be P4P, then you have to develop some alternate social realms. This is the basis of My Organization. But don't think that this is ever really free either. The women are very well taken care of at all times. And the men are putting time, energy, and money in. It is a collective effort and though my annual salary will only be $1, the organization will amass incredible wealth and power and the women will be beneficiaries of this.
It's not that difficult for a younger guy to find a girl to have sex with him. A young guy bragging about that to me is like a young guy bragging he doesn't have any gray hair. The older you get, the more difficult it becomes to get attractive young women to have sex and at some point for most guys it is no longer worth the effort. Life has different stages and I try to just enjoy the stage I'm currently in.
It's also not that difficult when the woman is a whore that needs drugs. I see pimps brag on TUSCL about picking up junkie stripper whores like they're special but in reality they're just like a trick providing drugs instead of money and pretending it's not p4p. Lulz.
docsavage, lots of young women, maybe 10%, are very interested in an affair with an older man. And it strip clubs the number is much higher.
Icey, not all young girls talk the way you do. You live in a world of drugs and illicit commerce. Not everyone is like that, and not all young girls think like you do.
You talk about not P4P, but mutual attraction. Well I have told you about the kinds of things young women tend to be attracted to. But if you pattern yourself as an illicit commerce and chemical mood alterants person, then that is the only kind you will attract.
If a girl is ready to go with you, but she wants to be paid, so what? Do you want to fuck her or not? You act like you want her to jump through some hoops first, prove something to you. It is like you are only incidentally male, what you really want is to be one of her GF's.
Women don't make good friends for men, their life position and concerns and options are completely different.
You look like you are looking for some sort of emotional affirmation from the women.
Well, you get that AFTER YOU FUCK THEM. This is just the way they are.
Years ago I talked with this young Mexican girl, an on duty waitress. She had all this silver jewelry which I took notice of. She explained that her Friend buys that for her. She has a Friend and a Boyfriend. With the Friend she really does not feel anything. But with the Boyfriend she really does.
She went on and on about this difference and I listened. What does it all mean?
Well the friend is conducting himself as a gentleman, like this is an approved courtship. So he buys her this stuff, like he is looking for her approval and he wants her to show feeling for her, but it isn't working.
So what does the Boyfriend do? It is not hard to figure it out. He engages by the laws of the jungle, tackling her, pulling her clothes off of her, and then pumping loads into her. And so now she goes around telling of all the strong feelings she has for him.
This is just the way women are. They want to feel the guy's hormones in her bones. They want the guy to do them with hormones and gravity, and AS IF her consent is not a requirement. In a strip club you have to tone this down, but once you have her in private you make her know that she is YOUR WOMAN.
It is not hard to see how women would have evolved this way.
The Friend is a gentleman and afraid of crossing her. He is seeking her approval. The Boyfriend knows that it does not work that way, and seemingly, at least, he really wants her, so he is getting her.
If a woman is painted up and in a slut uniform and taking in money at a strip club, and you want to proceed, approach, tell her your name and see if she give you hers, compliment her on what she is wearing, especially the high heels. Now you know she wants money, so you upstage her. You are not to be a trick, you are now keeping her.
So you hand her a business card with $100 under it, setting the precedent that going to contact with her, you are being generous. You tell her what you do for a living, what it says on the card and you say,
"I want you to let me take care of you. I am buying you your shoes."
So you are not a trick, you keeping her, you have turned it around. And you will be keeping her in high heels and makeup for regular beddings.
If she looks puzzled you might tell her, "In Europe and Latin America, and really everywhere except the United States, guys know how to do this, the smart guys. They keep beautiful women. If you want money, or anything, just tell me."
If it is a venue where you can do feel ups, do so. And keep softening her up with words. Feel ups softens women up. Then once the shoulders drop she is getting kissed. Keep telling her about yourself and what you do.
You might tell her how beautiful her face is, then go on to talk about her makeup.
Then "You are dressed and painted up for making love in the bedroom." and "I am jealous of your boyfriend, spending long nights bedding down with you. Does he take good care of you, because that is what I am going to do." "Well does he, your boyfriend, er your old boyfriend?"
If she says she has no one, "I'm sure that you've got a dozen guys chasing after you, so I got here just at the right time."
If she asks if you want a dance, "What I want is to take you home with me and fuck you in my own bed." Then find out where she lives and if she drove her own car there as you are obviously planning how to make this work.
This should already be an extreme makeout session and she already has all you contact info.
Then say, "Tonight you sleep in my bed" Then start to get her up and in the direction of the back room, and say, "Now I'm going to take you for the first time".
It should work out just fine.
As she expects money just give it to her. This is how she pays her bills. And compared to the cost and complexity of getting involved with a woman, this initial fee is nothing.
All painted up and ready to go at both ends. And it looks you don't really have to take anything off of her. So she is not just in a slut uniform, she is in an action uniform, or an orgy uniform. Since you don't need to undress her, you might just do her right were you find her. Or maybe you want her to do you and a friend at the same time.
And that is what you really need to fully enjoy, to be able to put on a show with her. A Private Party / Membership Club venue.
It depresses me without end thinking of how many years I had to settle for vastly less in a woman. Needless to say, My Organization will maximize this kind of dressed and painted up for immediate front room action look.
Docsavage. I'm not bragging and it's not always about age or looks. For example I know an older Cuban guy. All the Cuban strippers love him. They cook for him. Send him nudes. Hang out with him. Fuck him. He's in his 40s. Divorced. Kinda fat. Not rich. His secret? He accepts the girls as they are. Makes them feel comfortable and they can be themselves with him.
The sounds like this Cuban guy has got something good going. And you're right, accepting the girls as they are is important, including accepting the fact that they need money to pay their bills.
He doesn't give them money. They cook for him. Give him small gifts. He has genuine relationships with women. I sometimes hang out with him. He's not a trick and not in a sex cult
Sjg we get it you pay for sex and think everyone else does too snd pretend like it's normal. But most relationships in this world aren't p4p so stop trying to act like they are so you can legitimate yours being like that
Most everything in this world involves money, and this includes sex between women and men.
I don't really pay for sex, except maybe in the very beginning, and even with this I am steering the girl into mistress mode.
When my organization is going strong they will know that with our guys or on our premises they are never to accept money or other consideration for sex.
The standard boy girl relationship is much more based on the expectation money than you seem to realize.
If you want to totally separate money and sex then you would have to outlaw marriage.
I have a fledgling organization, just a handful of people, no legal incorporation.
Hooking up with girls in a civvie situation usually does not cost money, and trying to introduce money would be a big mistake.
But in a P4P situation money is almost always required. And in P4P situations women dress a lot hotter and are more ready for instant sex, which I love.
'even with this I am steering the girl into mistress mode.'
You must elaborate on that!
We need your expertise!
Tell us what your mistress is doing right now and the other 5 days a week while you sit in the library for 6 hours posting here. Does she sit there with you in crotchless panties, high heels, and stripper shoes doing her make up while she waits for you to pump loads into her after you enrich us with your sage knowledge?
When the library kicks you out at closing time do you treat her to a burger and fries at the burger king dumpster or does she prefer chicken and onion rings?
Is there room in your box for both of you or do you do your load pumping behind some bushes at the corner?
Does she ride on your bike with you? Does she sit on the handle bars or the cross bar?
How's her sanity holding up while being a mistress to a homeless broke psychotic creep?
"When my organization is going strong they will know that with our guys or on our premises they are never to accept money or other consideration for sex."
Obviously you're not one of those busy people you speak about but seriously....
We need your expertise!
Tell us what your mistress is doing right now and the other 5 days a week while you sit in the library for 6 hours posting here. Does she sit there with you in crotchless panties, high heels, and stripper shoes doing her make up while she waits for you to pump loads into her after you enrich us with your sage knowledge?
When the library kicks you out at closing time do you treat her to a burger and fries at the burger king dumpster or does she prefer chicken and onion rings?
Is there room in your box for both of you or do you do your load pumping behind some bushes at the corner?
Does she ride on your bike with you? Does she sit on the handle bars or the cross bar?
How's her sanity holding up while being a mistress to a homeless broke psychotic creep?
'I have absolute operational security on all the things I do. Otherwise it would not be safe for me to say anything.'
translation: If the library staff knew what I'm doing here online multiple hours 6 days a week they'd lock the doors and call the police when they see me aproaching!
Icee most relationships in human history were men financially supporting women. You’re talking about changes that occurred in the laat 100 years. And if youre paying with loyalty and exclusivity that’s still paying something
It depends how you’re triggering that attraction. Some guys are lying about their level of commitment and investment to make things easier.
And most relationships in human history were p4p in some form. Even the stripper relationships you speak so highly of involve a guy paying with loyalty and exclusivity and being a house husband.
In a lot of cases the strippers boyfriend isnt even allowed to get lapdances or do anything with other women.
Im not. Your statement of most people fuck cuz they’re attracted to each other physically doesnt hold true in many cases.
Its not most, its just some. The majority of relationships involve some form of p4p. It might be indirect. Some of these frat guys in college are hideous, or out of shape etc yet get many women thanks to personality or just their status and fame. Or money. Its not p4p but sometimes the girls will fuck cuz of their status. Or in the hopes theyll date them or give them future benefits.
That is not really true. By nature I am a very frugal person, I do not support a consumerist lifestyle. I look down on people who try to use money and the things it buys to impress people.
It is simply that I like the women who sell sex. They are much more out there. They are hot and ready to go. And most of all they dress and paint up in a manner which is much more slutty.
I like these women. It is not that I want to give up money, it is that I like the women.
Now, when I go to eat at my favorite taco restaurant, the family and their works are super nice to me. We have both survived the COVID hysteria. So we are veterans and their is an affinity.
But still, I do not expect them to feed me for free. They would not be my friends for long if I did that. It is not that they really need my money, it is just a matter of respect.
So with a woman who has positioned herself in a P4P venue, you have to show respect. Now you don't have to act like you are buying sex. You can make it like you are getting her signed on to be your Kept Woman.
Most women not seriously attached, they can be easily gotten to. But guys don't want to do that, usually because they are married, or because they just look down on sex workers.
I am not like that. I approach them open endedly, no built in limits.
Icey, you wrote about this 40yo old Cuban man. And the girls cook for him.
Thinking about that, I probably would not want the girls cooking for me. I can cook for myself probably easier. And if I am entertaining the girl at my home, I can cook for her and keep frozen ready to eat handy.
I guess I am just not the right type for the girls to be cooking for. Maybe it does come down to MBTI.
And I would not be a good MBTI for doing P4P for anyone either.
But getting them into slut uniforms and doing photo sessions and long MSOG sessions and instructing them in Tantra and Sex Magick, definitely.
If you get too much into symmetrical friendships with women you have to become like them. I do not wish that. I want to understand them and be able to relate to them, but that is as far as it goes. I have no desire to become like them. I appreciate being male, and I appreciate women, but the two are different.
Now thinking about this Cuban man, what comes to my mind is the story of the bay are artist Jean Varda. He was quite a phenomenon and many remarked on him.
He live on an old boat in Sausalito, while the Zen teacher Alan Watts lived in the other half. Watts wrote about this in his autobiography, "In My Own Way".
Varda built a boat and would take off sailing every weekend, and his boat was crewed by young women.
The society matrons supported him and brought their young daughters to him for de-virgination.
One narrative was of a matron who had a mink coat and Varda liked the lining fabric and he wanted to use some for a collage.
She actually took the lining out of her coat and gave it to him.
There is no way I would ever go along with something like that.
So your Cuban man is likely very different from me. Maybe you are like him, I do not know.
Sjg most men want to form normal bonds and share their time with women. They're not interested in paying for sex and leaving. It's called having a real life.
And you can make a date out of getting them into sexy lingerie. Pick it out together. Have a nice dinner. Let her wear it for you.
You pay to fuck. You don't pay to ingratiate yourself to them. Unless you're yhe worlds biggest simp paying people to like you.
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Obviously the best way to seduce stripper hoes would be to impersonate a world famous expert, you!
So my question is when introducing ourselves as you do we say our name is...
davids?
dougster?
phatboi?
iceyloco?
ceoicey?
eltriste?
2icey?
one of your other posting names?
a new name you haven't thought up or used yet but eventually will?
I bet I'm not the only one eagerly awaiting your answer so please respond ASAP!
Are you that too? It's ok homie we still niggaz even if ur a gimp!
Ya think you can incorporate gimp as part of your next alias?
Up next is Icee acting indignant that he's not being taken seriously, when the reality is that he created this thread solely to pick a fight.
LULZ
Heaving she's not my type. Her trolling Is a turn off.
Bubblegum. What are your qualifications?
Don’t flatter yourself speaking for myself I find you to be a tremendous source of humor, Iceefag, you are the epitome of the unintentionally funny moron
LULZ
SJG
Jane - School of Rock
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SJG
Jefferson Starship - Jane - 2018 School of Rock AllStars Team 6
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Spend money on women not for women. Big difference.
But your body and vibe are the most important things. And you don't need a 6 pack or anything.
When it comes to style. Pro club and vans don't let me down lulz
Politely reject them for dances after a good conversation because it's clear they are a clean dancer.
Every once in a while their bruised ego will work in your favor.
You're certainly a pro so speaking for all of TUSCL let me be the first to thank you for sharing your expertise and vast knowledge of stripper hoes.
Obviously the best way to seduce stripper hoes would be to impersonate a world famous expert, you!
So my question is when introducing ourselves as you do we say our name is...
davids?
dougster?
txtittyfag?
phatboi?
iceyloco?
ceoicey?
eltriste?
2icey?
one of your other posting names?
a new name you haven't thought up or used yet but eventually will?
I bet I'm not the only one eagerly awaiting your answer so please respond ASAP homie lulz!
The thing is these girls feel so dead inside and hate the fake world they live in. They crave feeling something real and being accepted and supported just as they are.
Icey, some of these girls, especially those who habitually use chemical mood alterants you never will be able to relate to because they are not able to relate to themselves, they don't live in their own skin. And the prescription mood alterants are at least as bad as the street variety.
You can't follow this PUA logic of "seducing" women or "picking up on them". That implies that you are somehow pulling the wool over their eyes, doing something which is adversarial and besting them.
If you are open and honest with them, things might work out very well right off.
Now coming out of a strip club and perhaps being accustomed to P4P, she might want cash. Don't make her wrong for this. She deals with all sorts of guys who say all sorts of things to her, but she never sees them again. She knows this. So cash is just her getting the backend insurance up front. And besides, getting involved with a woman is always opening a huge can of worms. Likely as not there will be escalating direct monetary costs. So let her know you are "taking care of her". Don't ever make her wrong for expecting money, or for whatever she does with other people.
It's like I have read about Mexico, if you challenge them they will just say, "Marry me right now cabrone."
Cabrone = cuckold, but it is like we would say, bastard.
She is just trying to get by in her life. If you play it right, you'll be just like GACA, who very soon had his girl move in with him, and soon after they were married. I am not recommending this, but this is what can happen.
Women like guys who have their life together, staring with the economics. They want regular reliable income, and doing something that leads somewhere. I am not saying this is a completely fair or reasonable expectation. Our economic system is totally unfair. But this is still what women look to. At least you have to be applying yourself and making progress.
From my point of view what really disarms women is when a guy has deliberately selected her and is moving on her because just something about her makes it so that he has to.
See if the girl has to initiate, then that means that any other girl could do the same with him. He is chicken to go after girls unless they open a door, so it is up to the girls.
But if he selects and initiates, then he knows what he wants and he is secure enough to extend himself.
And of course, if you have selected her, as soon as she lets her guard down she is getting kissed. There is no law against this anywhere. And you aren't intending to start a discussion about this or ask permission. You are King of the World and all women belong to you. So you can have which ever one you select and she will go along with this. Kissing her completely takes her off script, its like how a washing machine shifts from Agitate to Spin.
You've got her right there, so let things go as far as they can and have the next meeting set up. Try to take her to your own bed that night.
Worst case where she won't give up contact info, find out when her next shift starts and tell her you'll be there at that time and do so.
Good Luck,
SJG
Stone Free, School of Rock
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School of Rock does Steele Dan with their signature harmony
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All painted up and ready to go at both ends. As it looks you don't really have to take anything off of her. So she is not just in a slut uniform, she is in an action uniform, or an orgy uniform. And that is what you really need to fully enjoy, to be able to put on a show with her.
It depresses me without end thinking of how many years I had to settle for vastly less in a woman. Needless to say, My Organization will maximize this kind of dressed and painted up for immediate front room action look.
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11443
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=10781
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Yanis Varoufakis on Europe’s Energy Crisis, War in Ukraine & Crackdown on Dissent After Queen’s Death
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I'm talking about building chemistry and bonds. It's all about how you make a.woman feel and being genuine
If you don't want to give her this money, then you need to go to venues where women don't do P4P and won't ask for money.
SJG
All painted up and ready to go at both ends. As it looks you don't really have to take anything off of her. So she is not just in a slut uniform, she is in an action uniform, or an orgy uniform. And that is what you really need to fully enjoy, to be able to put on a show with her.
It depresses me without end thinking of how many years I had to settle for vastly less in a woman. Needless to say, My Organization will maximize this kind of dressed and painted up for immediate front room action look.
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11443
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=10781
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=10526
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=6824
Yanis Varoufakis on Europe’s Energy Crisis, War in Ukraine & Crackdown on Dissent After Queen’s Death
https://www.democracynow.org/2022/9/13/y…
Stone Free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGlcBnW4…
Middle of the Road
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwAYs1vt…
I want you (she's so heavy)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4VZy0sE…
Never Been Any Reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkwjmrG-…
I Shot the Sheriff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3Cf6TU7…
Long Concert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2zVmCiC…
Playing Steele Dan
https://youtu.be/I2zVmCiCCpo?t=4202
School of Rock does MC5, but wo/ the verbal invocation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRjaQryF…
But if she wants money I would say just give it to her and say, "let me take care of you."
Trying to get her to fuck for free is like trying to make her jump through hoops, which is wrong. Most of the time women are not really free.
If you met her in a civvie night club, she probably would fuck for free, because you don't see her as P4P.
But in a strip club where a lot of them do P4P, and where she is seen as P4P, then asking her to fuck for free is disrespectful.
Just give her what she wants and bone her regularly and before you know it she will be all yours, getting much more than you bargained for likely.
Do her on her hormonal upslope, from when aunt flow leaves, till about 10 days out. Do her everyday and she won't have any emotional defenses left.
SJG
21st Century Schizoid Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kSJIHt…
Right! ^ This from a dimwit with a sewn up asshole who swears chevy had a 298ci small block, thinks firefox is called foxfire, etc etc etc.
Yeah we can bank on your word, Lol!
If you met a strip club dancer in the supermarket check out line, you might be able to get her purely civvie.
But in the strip club in a slut uniform and painted up like a slut, she will much more likely want to have that cash up front. This not always true, but often it is.
So which do you want, the full stripper regalia, or the soccer mom look? Usually their are presentation lines women will not cross unless they are to be paid.
I, for one, love the full stripper regalia and instant sex, so I will go for that.
Now to replicate that in other situations and where there might not be P4P, then you have to develop some alternate social realms. This is the basis of My Organization. But don't think that this is ever really free either. The women are very well taken care of at all times. And the men are putting time, energy, and money in. It is a collective effort and though my annual salary will only be $1, the organization will amass incredible wealth and power and the women will be beneficiaries of this.
SJG
Chester Cheetah
Geordie Boy
Pimp Sean
Stripper Hoes and Main Bitch do not help here.
SJG
Instead of a predatory pimp, she's a "boyfriend".
Instead of an enabling drugs provider, she's just partying with a junkie stripper whore.
Instead of being controlling and abusive, she claims junkie stripper whores need someone to manage their lives and they are seeking the help.
It's a coping mechanism. Otherwise, she's simply a dirtbag that exploits the vulnerabilities of desperate junkie strippers.
And she NEEDS to do this. It's evidenced in by her creating threads like this regularly and unsolicited:
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7858…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7858…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7829…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7781…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7767…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7746…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7701…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7693…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7693…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7455…
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7455…
^^^clearly she's obsessed with this topic. LMFAO autistic as fuck about it. 🤭🤡😂😂😂
Icey, not all young girls talk the way you do. You live in a world of drugs and illicit commerce. Not everyone is like that, and not all young girls think like you do.
You talk about not P4P, but mutual attraction. Well I have told you about the kinds of things young women tend to be attracted to. But if you pattern yourself as an illicit commerce and chemical mood alterants person, then that is the only kind you will attract.
If a girl is ready to go with you, but she wants to be paid, so what? Do you want to fuck her or not? You act like you want her to jump through some hoops first, prove something to you. It is like you are only incidentally male, what you really want is to be one of her GF's.
Women don't make good friends for men, their life position and concerns and options are completely different.
You look like you are looking for some sort of emotional affirmation from the women.
Well, you get that AFTER YOU FUCK THEM. This is just the way they are.
Years ago I talked with this young Mexican girl, an on duty waitress. She had all this silver jewelry which I took notice of. She explained that her Friend buys that for her. She has a Friend and a Boyfriend. With the Friend she really does not feel anything. But with the Boyfriend she really does.
She went on and on about this difference and I listened. What does it all mean?
Well the friend is conducting himself as a gentleman, like this is an approved courtship. So he buys her this stuff, like he is looking for her approval and he wants her to show feeling for her, but it isn't working.
So what does the Boyfriend do? It is not hard to figure it out. He engages by the laws of the jungle, tackling her, pulling her clothes off of her, and then pumping loads into her. And so now she goes around telling of all the strong feelings she has for him.
This is just the way women are. They want to feel the guy's hormones in her bones. They want the guy to do them with hormones and gravity, and AS IF her consent is not a requirement. In a strip club you have to tone this down, but once you have her in private you make her know that she is YOUR WOMAN.
It is not hard to see how women would have evolved this way.
The Friend is a gentleman and afraid of crossing her. He is seeking her approval. The Boyfriend knows that it does not work that way, and seemingly, at least, he really wants her, so he is getting her.
If a woman is painted up and in a slut uniform and taking in money at a strip club, and you want to proceed, approach, tell her your name and see if she give you hers, compliment her on what she is wearing, especially the high heels. Now you know she wants money, so you upstage her. You are not to be a trick, you are now keeping her.
So you hand her a business card with $100 under it, setting the precedent that going to contact with her, you are being generous. You tell her what you do for a living, what it says on the card and you say,
"I want you to let me take care of you. I am buying you your shoes."
So you are not a trick, you keeping her, you have turned it around. And you will be keeping her in high heels and makeup for regular beddings.
If she looks puzzled you might tell her, "In Europe and Latin America, and really everywhere except the United States, guys know how to do this, the smart guys. They keep beautiful women. If you want money, or anything, just tell me."
If it is a venue where you can do feel ups, do so. And keep softening her up with words. Feel ups softens women up. Then once the shoulders drop she is getting kissed. Keep telling her about yourself and what you do.
You might tell her how beautiful her face is, then go on to talk about her makeup.
Then "You are dressed and painted up for making love in the bedroom." and "I am jealous of your boyfriend, spending long nights bedding down with you. Does he take good care of you, because that is what I am going to do." "Well does he, your boyfriend, er your old boyfriend?"
If she says she has no one, "I'm sure that you've got a dozen guys chasing after you, so I got here just at the right time."
If she asks if you want a dance, "What I want is to take you home with me and fuck you in my own bed." Then find out where she lives and if she drove her own car there as you are obviously planning how to make this work.
This should already be an extreme makeout session and she already has all you contact info.
Then say, "Tonight you sleep in my bed" Then start to get her up and in the direction of the back room, and say, "Now I'm going to take you for the first time".
It should work out just fine.
As she expects money just give it to her. This is how she pays her bills. And compared to the cost and complexity of getting involved with a woman, this initial fee is nothing.
Good Luck!
SJG
School of Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQp1RJtC…
<img src="https://tuscl.net/photos/62e2ebe02a7a4">
All painted up and ready to go at both ends. And it looks you don't really have to take anything off of her. So she is not just in a slut uniform, she is in an action uniform, or an orgy uniform. Since you don't need to undress her, you might just do her right were you find her. Or maybe you want her to do you and a friend at the same time.
And that is what you really need to fully enjoy, to be able to put on a show with her. A Private Party / Membership Club venue.
It depresses me without end thinking of how many years I had to settle for vastly less in a woman. Needless to say, My Organization will maximize this kind of dressed and painted up for immediate front room action look.
The sounds like this Cuban guy has got something good going. And you're right, accepting the girls as they are is important, including accepting the fact that they need money to pay their bills.
SJG
School of Rock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQp1RJtC…
I think these girls like the Cuban guy for two reasons:
1. He fucks them.
2. He is generous with them.
In The Organization I am working to build, we will have our own women who we take care of very well.
Only have to go into direct P4P we recruiting outside women.
SJG
School of Rock Stone Free
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGlcBnW4…
Awesome Orgy Uniform, too good for retail strip clubs
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11443
But anyway, if you want to you can try to emulate him.
SJG
Awesome Front Room FS Uniform
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11443
I don't really pay for sex, except maybe in the very beginning, and even with this I am steering the girl into mistress mode.
When my organization is going strong they will know that with our guys or on our premises they are never to accept money or other consideration for sex.
The standard boy girl relationship is much more based on the expectation money than you seem to realize.
If you want to totally separate money and sex then you would have to outlaw marriage.
SJG
Awesome Front Room FS Orgy Uniform
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11443
The School of Rock All-Stars Team 3 at Beat Kitchen in Chicago, IL July 31, 2014 Full Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyjgNMf3…
And you have no organization
Hooking up with girls in a civvie situation usually does not cost money, and trying to introduce money would be a big mistake.
But in a P4P situation money is almost always required. And in P4P situations women dress a lot hotter and are more ready for instant sex, which I love.
SJG
Awesome Front Room FS Orgy Uniform
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=11443
The School of Rock All-Stars Team 3 at Beat Kitchen in Chicago, IL July 31, 2014 Full Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyjgNMf3…
You must elaborate on that!
We need your expertise!
Tell us what your mistress is doing right now and the other 5 days a week while you sit in the library for 6 hours posting here. Does she sit there with you in crotchless panties, high heels, and stripper shoes doing her make up while she waits for you to pump loads into her after you enrich us with your sage knowledge?
When the library kicks you out at closing time do you treat her to a burger and fries at the burger king dumpster or does she prefer chicken and onion rings?
Is there room in your box for both of you or do you do your load pumping behind some bushes at the corner?
Does she ride on your bike with you? Does she sit on the handle bars or the cross bar?
How's her sanity holding up while being a mistress to a homeless broke psychotic creep?
SJG
<img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0573/7…">
The 7th of Never. I'll mark my calendar.
We need your expertise!
Tell us what your mistress is doing right now and the other 5 days a week while you sit in the library for 6 hours posting here. Does she sit there with you in crotchless panties, high heels, and stripper shoes doing her make up while she waits for you to pump loads into her after you enrich us with your sage knowledge?
When the library kicks you out at closing time do you treat her to a burger and fries at the burger king dumpster or does she prefer chicken and onion rings?
Is there room in your box for both of you or do you do your load pumping behind some bushes at the corner?
Does she ride on your bike with you? Does she sit on the handle bars or the cross bar?
How's her sanity holding up while being a mistress to a homeless broke psychotic creep?
<img src="https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0573/7…">
SJG
translation: If the library staff knew what I'm doing here online multiple hours 6 days a week they'd lock the doors and call the police when they see me aproaching!
SJG
SJG
And most relationships in human history were p4p in some form. Even the stripper relationships you speak so highly of involve a guy paying with loyalty and exclusivity and being a house husband.
In a lot of cases the strippers boyfriend isnt even allowed to get lapdances or do anything with other women.
Its not most, its just some. The majority of relationships involve some form of p4p. It might be indirect. Some of these frat guys in college are hideous, or out of shape etc yet get many women thanks to personality or just their status and fame. Or money. Its not p4p but sometimes the girls will fuck cuz of their status. Or in the hopes theyll date them or give them future benefits.
That is not really true. By nature I am a very frugal person, I do not support a consumerist lifestyle. I look down on people who try to use money and the things it buys to impress people.
It is simply that I like the women who sell sex. They are much more out there. They are hot and ready to go. And most of all they dress and paint up in a manner which is much more slutty.
I like these women. It is not that I want to give up money, it is that I like the women.
Now, when I go to eat at my favorite taco restaurant, the family and their works are super nice to me. We have both survived the COVID hysteria. So we are veterans and their is an affinity.
But still, I do not expect them to feed me for free. They would not be my friends for long if I did that. It is not that they really need my money, it is just a matter of respect.
So with a woman who has positioned herself in a P4P venue, you have to show respect. Now you don't have to act like you are buying sex. You can make it like you are getting her signed on to be your Kept Woman.
Most women not seriously attached, they can be easily gotten to. But guys don't want to do that, usually because they are married, or because they just look down on sex workers.
I am not like that. I approach them open endedly, no built in limits.
<img src="https://i.etsystatic.com/17290784/r/il/d…">
SJG
School of Rock KC House Band do "Heartbreaker" by Led Zeppelin . Robbie Matthews/vocals 12yrs old. w/ Livin' Lovin' Maid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZX8Odpu…
Roundabout
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVmqKsMm…
Heard It Through The Grapevine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUiENUAE…
King Crimson - 21st Century Schizoid Man - School of Rock All Stars Team 4 - Metro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kSJIHt…
King Crimson - Starless (School of Rock Bedford)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYKrmgpD…
<img src="https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/Hccffce201e06…">
SJG
School of Rock, The Song Remains the Same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nafJuYuB…
<img src="https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H235698783cf6…">
SJG
Thinking about that, I probably would not want the girls cooking for me. I can cook for myself probably easier. And if I am entertaining the girl at my home, I can cook for her and keep frozen ready to eat handy.
I guess I am just not the right type for the girls to be cooking for. Maybe it does come down to MBTI.
And I would not be a good MBTI for doing P4P for anyone either.
But getting them into slut uniforms and doing photo sessions and long MSOG sessions and instructing them in Tantra and Sex Magick, definitely.
If you get too much into symmetrical friendships with women you have to become like them. I do not wish that. I want to understand them and be able to relate to them, but that is as far as it goes. I have no desire to become like them. I appreciate being male, and I appreciate women, but the two are different.
Now thinking about this Cuban man, what comes to my mind is the story of the bay are artist Jean Varda. He was quite a phenomenon and many remarked on him.
https://fostergwin.com/artist-bios/jean-…
He live on an old boat in Sausalito, while the Zen teacher Alan Watts lived in the other half. Watts wrote about this in his autobiography, "In My Own Way".
Varda built a boat and would take off sailing every weekend, and his boat was crewed by young women.
The society matrons supported him and brought their young daughters to him for de-virgination.
One narrative was of a matron who had a mink coat and Varda liked the lining fabric and he wanted to use some for a collage.
She actually took the lining out of her coat and gave it to him.
There is no way I would ever go along with something like that.
So your Cuban man is likely very different from me. Maybe you are like him, I do not know.
SJG
School of Rock - Baracuda
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8ptRxUE…
School of Rock - Paint it Black
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utauWXmv…
And you can make a date out of getting them into sexy lingerie. Pick it out together. Have a nice dinner. Let her wear it for you.
You pay to fuck. You don't pay to ingratiate yourself to them. Unless you're yhe worlds biggest simp paying people to like you.