Hey guys,
From reading a lot of forums it seems that the guys who end up doing the these lifestyle tend to be more right wing. Meanwhile, it seems that guys who are more left wing end up staying at home.
Now, I don't mean its always the case. But I feel a lot of guys who end up "going for it" tend to be the conservative one's who want a wife.
Beat-- define your definition of right wing. Libertarian leaning, financial conservative, or religious/moral.. or anywhere in between.
@eteofodin I used a broad term like "ring wing." But what I meant is it seems the guys who are more into doing the expat lifestyle seems to have some "conservative" believes. Maybe, you guys have a better term. I remember you guys analyzed PUA's very well.
Average guy who follows Roosh/Expats forum that I've read -Seems to want to find a traditional wife to "submit" to him -Is critical of lefties -Tend to have yellow fever
“From reading a lot of forums it seems that….”
@ice Yes, I agree with you to an extend. It seems that some of these guys are "misfits" in their western country by it the USA or Western Europe. Hence, its hard to truly understand what is the truth. For instance, a lot of them said Canada was "awful" and very difficult to date there but I actually find most Canadian women easier to talk to than America women.
I'd not last long on the ex pat sites you read... no wife wanted, no submissive wanted. I do hate leftist(communists, socialist, fascists) but not liberals. As to skin pigment -- could not care less.
Belize or Costa Rica are on my list of retirement place to look into.
The Elvis is everywhere.
I think it depends on where the guy is an expat. If it's Toronto, gonna be an emolib not a right-winger.
Many expats are people who go to a poor country so they don't have to wait till they are 65 to retire. My impression is that they are fairly apolitical, but they dislike high taxes because they are trying to make their savings go far.
Hypothetically at least, if you were a Chuck Norris type dude, you could have a cool expat life in some poor countries. You'd have to find a shady contact or two in a non-touristy place, so you could negotiate how much protection money you'd be paying to the local police. For $50, maybe less, you could spend a few pleasant hours with a beautiful woman, who'd feel lucky that you were around. She would not consider you to be toxicly masculine if you never cried or ate quiche. But this would be more complicated if petite and/or dark-complexioned are not beautiful to you.
Regardless of where a guy moves to. He's bringing the same hang ups beliefs and reasons he couldn't get laid. Its irrational to believe that all the women in a country are the reason he can't get laid so he has to try a new country.
And he's never going to find a quality woman abroad. A woman who had made it and is doing well won't drop everything to leave to be with a socially retarded foreigner. These Men prey on poor women for the most part. Or they get lured by scammers.
Roosh is an incel guru. The extent of their right wingism is believing if women didn't have rights they'd be forced to settle for them.
The "misfits" in America are the faggot pussies called progressive "males". The faggiest faggot is Icey, assigned "male" at birth; only.
My idea of an expat life would be something like the hippies in Nepal lulz
@Beat100 The Roosh followers looking for traditional wives tend to be social conservatives, not libertarians. Roosh was originally a PUA type who looked for one-night stands here in the U.S. but a few years back got religion and then abandoned that PUA lifestyle and started advocating traditional marriages. He now thinks foreign women are less corrupted by what he considers the decadence of the West so he and his followers would look overseas for wives. The sex tourist guys would be a different category than that.
Roost goes to poor countries and pays women for gfes. By not corrupted by the west he means they lack rights
Progressive men choose shemales for wives.
Incels can go marry Amish or Mennonite women. Even Mormons. But they're too socially retarded for even that. They think they can buy jot foreign women who will be dependent on them so they won't leave
Why would anyone give my last comment a "dislike"? I am not saying I either approve or disapprove of what Roosh used to think or what he thinks now. I am just giving a description of his beliefs. I am not saying he never paid anyone for sex but his earlier books never advocated paying females for sex. They were about using PUA tactics on women to get them to have sex for free. He always had a low opinion of American woman as marriage material, which is why he just wanted them for sex earlier and why he now advocates going overseas to look for a wife now that his views have changed away from thinking the PUA lifestyle is a good one.
Once again, let me emphasize that me reporting what he thinks does not mean I think the same thing. I was married in my twenties to an American wife and had American girl friends in my thirties and forties. There are good women still out there, but you have to search for them. I found some when I was younger. Different guys want different things, and the same guy might want different things at different ages. I'm 65 now and I'm happy living by myself and doing what I like when I feel like it. I get enough female company by going to a strip club once a week and buying some lap dances and I don't have to worry about any of the strippers wanting to move in with an old guy like me as I might if I got a girlfriend my age.
"Average guy who follows Roosh/Expats forum that I've read" Roosh was a libertine PUA who came to realize how empty that life was, and turned his compulsive quest for validation to religion. I'm sure he's still just as much a gaping emotional void as ever. His "followers" are even greater losers than he is, because they can see how unfulfilling it is yet aspire to that route.
"-Seems to want to find a traditional wife to "submit" to him" Yes, because they think she'll be barefoot, naked, and in the kitchen for him and only him, and will put up with him being a giant fucking morbidly obese loser who watches anime 12 hours a day.
"-Is critical of lefties" They're more hardcore right-libertarian types who think even paying modest taxes is oppression. They think they're ubermenschen who blaze their own trail in the world, but are really just whiny brats.
"-Tend to have yellow fever" Yes, a lot of them are racists. It just so happens their racial prejudice gives them a boner. They think women from poorer Asian countries (often Thailand or the Philippines) will do anything to come to America. A lot have "borscht fever" and idealize Slavic women, or "salsa fever" and idealize Latinas. But same thought process.
The other subset of "expat life" people are the internet marketers. They're a bit less political (operative term "a bit") but still think they've hacked life. Like a lot of "influencers," they're legends in their own minds, presenting a lifestyle they don't actually live.
Not that there aren't expats elsewhere who love the culture and want to live more cheaply, but they're less vocal and bitchy about it.
Blah would stab most male TUSCL discussion participants if the chance arose, so don't think you're at elevated risk when she dislikes your post. Like Steve Winwood said, don't worry too much, it will happen to you.
Icey wants to make you feel like you've upset him, so you'll buy him a pity slurpee.
What the fuck are you talking about? She didn't even post here. You're having a 20fag moment.
But im.seruous. why aren't incels going for Mormons Mennonite or Amish women?
The original premise is incorrect.
^ what do you expect from deez nuts and the rest of the Iceefag crew v
How do you spell young american male? f u c k i n g f a g g o t.
I done a fair amount of sex tourism over the last 20 years. I'm not looking to be an ex-pat anywhere. But I have the means to travel in pursuit of many interests, including new experiences abroad (pun not intended) with consenting adult women.
In my many trips, I have met a fair number of other Americans who share similar interests - both tourists and ex-pats. I'd say the majority - perhaps 70% plus - are indeed generally conservative politically. A smaller but still significant portion of those are extreme, right-wing 'Mericans, who barely veil their prejudices, antisemitism, and outright contempt of progressive ideologies.
It is interesting to note that meetings and discussions with these men are generally cordial and non-confrontational. Perhaps they are aware that as guests in a foreign country for the purpose of fucking the shit out of local women, it would be imprudent in the extreme to be argumentative and unruly with other guests. Or maybe they just don't want to be distracted from all the cheap, fresh, hot pussy around?
I think PLs are generally more loud and proud if they are "conservative", for various reasons. One example, commercial sex requires some hoe-like behavior by both PL and sex worker. But the sex worker gets much more of the nasty judgmentalism. But it's considered traditional that women get judged harshly for hoeness but men don't, and it's considered conservative if you think what's traditional is OK even if it isn't fair. Another example, sex workers typically come from less well-off families. It's considered conservative to feel like economic inequality can't be eliminated, and trying to eliminate it does more harm that good. So you are more comfortable with it that women from poorer families end up doing sex work, just the way of the world.
I know a ton of expats and most are on the left side of the political spectrum, but my group tends to be young. Maybe older expats are more conservative. If so, that mirrors US demographics
L @Beat100
I will play along and comment on your discussion.
You are referring to the “Privilege of Mobility” that historically in The USA has been one of the many privileges of white Americans.
Why do you call him “Expat” instead of “migrant”?
Because Expat is jus another term to disguise colonialism/imperialism and of course racism.
“I'm not saying that white people are better in the USA and the world.
I'm saying that in the USA and the world, being white is clearly better, as a product of white supremacy, which was facilitated by centuries of domination attained through occupation and economic exploitation of indigenous people of color.
Who could even argue?
Now, if you're white and you don't admit that it's great, you're an asshole.”
~ Louis Székely ~ White Privileged stand up comedian ~ Born Sep 12, 1967 Washington, D.C., U.S.
I lived in the uk for 4 years, knew tons of expats, and they were all over the map politically. Maybe you’re thinking of the “move to 3rd world country, live on pennies a day, sex tourist” version of expat? I don’t know what those guys are into politically, but I’ve met a few and they were always awkward. More just socially retarded than particularly political.
First, the whole "right-wingers"/"left-wingers" label is incorrect and fraught with negative connotations. Look at Edward Fucking Snowden. It is accurate to say they are all over the map politically. Hence, Ishmael's assertion is correct.
Most expats are people who like to travel or find a better quality of life abroad.
The guys going abroad coz they can't get laid in the US are just sex tourists looking for GFEs. I think the right wing/incel segment is pretty small. They do it thinking foreign women will be dependent on them and thus subservient. Like the guys with mail order brides. They deserve to get scammed