Got A Hall Pass

I have roughly the same arrangement with my Esso, no FS unless she’s with me. But those are stories for a different forum.

On the many occasions that I’ve done HK and clubs without her I have always maintained the BJ and below only rule out of respect

On my trips to Hong Kong I have almost always been able to negotiate discounts for this kind of service. Often $60, sometimes 80 and on at least one occasion I was offered $40 for a job in the main room just so she didn’t have to go upstairs. I’ve also had a couple in the lap dance rooms which is often where I go to audition.

Why would she not want to go upstaris? Does she feel safer in the club?

If the girl goes upstairs she has to split/pay the club’s take $20 or the fix rate they have for the room, towels, robe, cleaning, etc, regardless if she does full service or not.

Downstairs she probably can keep all the money becaits is considered a tip.

Allows remember you are paying for her company time, whatever happens between two consenting adults in the privacy of a room it is nobody business mostly anywhere in the world.

Just pay the full price going rate to avoid getting lesser service. Remember you get what you pay for.

Going upstairs takes time and requires climbing (in heels no less) so maybe she’s just lazy? No idea really, it was her suggestion.

"to be honest, downstairs fun is like 75% of the draw for me in TJ anyways. (for me, the shaving cream shows alone are almost worth the trip!)"

100 percent, EA! Love the shaving cream shows just for the unabashed public debauchery. I was like you my first few trips to HK. Went for the wild club atmosphere (stage shows, fichas, lap dances) and took ladies arriba with the understanding that I didn't want FS. On my translation app, I let them know I wanted to get naked with them, suck their titties, lick their pussies, have them give me a CBJ and then have them finish me by hand, with no FS. They all agreed. No discount. I paid the going rate and it was well worth it for me to do all those other things.
On my last visit in August, I finally started doing FS. But truth be told, I really don't even need it to have a great time because I love giving and receiving oral and the groping and sensuality of being with women half my age.

I'm thinking spending a full day getting fiche-fucked all day long sounds pretty fun. Just sit in a booth and pay girls to rub on your all day. And you can get BJ's in the private dance booths inside the club. So you really don't have a need to Arribba.

JA, my experience has been the exact opposite of yours. I've been going to TJ for 20+ years (albeit sometimes with years in between visits), and have never NOT done Arriba.

I would agree that the public debauchery is a big draw of the shaving cream shows, in fact I wish there were MORE of that to be had at HK.

It wasn't until my last visit (about 3.5 years ago) that I discovered the fun to be had with fichas. Previously I was always a cut-right-to-the-chase kinda guy. (my opening line in previous years has been "Hi, wanna f*ck?", and then straight up to a room.) I figured that since my Spanish is virtually non-existent, there's really no point in chit-chat.

Definitely going to revise that idea this time, though.

Also, I actually did not know that girls do BJ's in the lap dance rooms, I always thought that was not allowed. So thanks for the info guys, definitely plan to explore that option as well!

Empty. On the activity inside the private dance booths. Bring your own condoms. The waiters will find you one, but it's 5 bucks for a single condom.

OP, how did you broach this topic with the SO?

Well, over the last couple of months we've gotten into watching porn together.

Turns out she likes porn a lot more than I previously realized, as long as it's the right kind. (she's really into those Porn For Women channels).

A recent porn session led to a long discussion of what really turns us both on. (I know that it's kind of sad that we've been together 3.5 years and have never talked about this in depth till very recently....)

Gradually I confessed that in past years I've been quite into strip clubs and escorts, but that brothel-type situations are what really does it for me. I told her that in the time we've been together I've been to strip clubs a SMALL handful of times (we're talking like once a year), but haven't done any of the other stuff in years, out of respect for her.

She turned out to be surprisingly casual about all this, was basically like "you can have your fun with that stuff, just don't f*ck anybody".

For her part, she said that she really wants us to have a threesome/watch me with another woman, but that is probably for a different thread....