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4 years ago

Who is the World Economic Forum and why don't they want us to own anything?

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Uprightcitizen

Anything about Soylent Green?

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misterorange

It's all bullshit like the United Nations. Woke nonsense that will lead to communism.

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Uprightcitizen

The United Nations is simply a forum for all nations to have

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shailynn

Did Bernie Sanders and AOC produce that video? That's some awfully aggressive predictions to happen within the next 8 years. Yeah, Elon Musk can't even get a factory to install interior trim pieces on a Tesla without them falling off 3 months later but we're all going to Mars!!!!

I'd take the reliable 3d printed organs (if they worked right) and I just want a reliable self-driving car. Imagine instead of farting around in 2 airports for a 60 minute flight which ends up taking half of the day if I could hop in a car, take a nap, read the news and have lunch, and in 5 hours arrive at my destination. That 60 minute flight takes about 5 hours when you factor in parking, checking in the airport, a short flight delay, landing, getting your luggage, grabbing a rental car, etc. etc.

"Renting" everything could possibly become a real thing. Car manufacturers are dying to "rent" or "lease" services as subscriptions on vehicles. You want heated seats? That'll be $20 a month. You like Apple Carplay? That'll be $11 a month. Recurring revenue, because that $70k you just shelled out for a new car wasn't enough for them.

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Uprightcitizen

...a voice. The most ethical and the most unethical are represented.

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Uprightcitizen

If you have nothing (which is most of the world) then this is not a bad message. You don't have to own a home or a car to live a good life.

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Papi_Chulo

Believe them when they tell you what they wanna do - they want a permanent underclass with nothing that they can control so they can stay in power indefinitely

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Papi_Chulo

"... If you have nothing (which is most of the world) then this is not a bad message. You don't have to own a home or a car to live a good life ..."

Sure - as long as it's your choice and not the choice of others imposing it on you

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shailynn

I think it's all a matter of perspective.

If you're a citizen of the USA with a 2nd home, 3 cars and 2 girlfriends you're watching this saying WTF I don't think so.

If you're 35 still living with your parents in India and all you have is a bike and a goat to your name this message would possibly make you hopeful.

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Uprightcitizen

The reality is we have a pretty amazing life in the USA. Opportunities and private ownership. We have a great country and economic system that rewards effort. I personally love this country and our system of government.

The vast majority of the world is not even close to our way of life. The world bank mostly helps countries in need. What do they tell theose citizens? Get rich or die tryin?

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Papi_Chulo

I think everyone is for other countries to have what we have - but the way leftist achieve equality is by bringing those at the top down vs bringing those at the bottom up and there seems to be a class of people that think America has had it too good and it needs to be cut-down-to-size - and plenty of people drink that Koolaid and think that's "virtuous"

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Papi_Chulo

Society needs to be free to be ran by the people (private sector; entrepreneurs; etc); not a small group of idealistic bureaucrats that have often never had a real job nor ran a real businesses and live in an idealistic fantasy bubble

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Uprightcitizen

The world is not just 2 sides of a coin. Its comforting and easy to think that way but completely unrealistic

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longjohn81

My opinion of the WEF is that it is a bunch of ultra-wealthy people who want to tell all of us “common folk” how to live. They want us to own nothing while they own everything and dictate every aspect of our lives. These people fly into Davos in their private jets and lavish lifestyles and then proceed to tell someone like me who owns a house and two cars that my selfish, market driven lifestyle is the problem with the world. Without a hint of irony, they lecture the rest of the world about economic inequality. They’re fricking billionaires!!! If they’re so concerned about climate change and income equality they should donate their wealth and stop using private jets. This is a propaganda campaign to get us to give up our individual freedoms and autonomy.

Before some of you goes all “you’re a right wing troll, blah, blah,”blah”. I am not. I believe in a progressive tax system that doesn’t have loopholes for billionaires to only pay single digit tax rates. But one thing I absolutely will fight against is a super powerful central govt (this is what the WEF is angling for or wants to become themselves) that can dictate outcomes in all of our lives and elevate the 0.1% into total power. It’s what always, always, always happens with super strong central govts. And that is what would be required for people to have no personal property or privacy.

If you think that the Billionaires who run the WEF are going to give up their wealth, personal property, and privacy, then I have some ocean front property in Nebraska I’d like to sell you.

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Icee Loco (asshole)

Alternate visions exist. And that's exactly what we need.

I find it entertaining when some admit that our system is broken but then act like it's so wonderful .......coz look at yhe country lmfao

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carolinaclubman

The only people to truly benefit from the vision of the WEF is them and their cronies. They already live like kings, they want us to live like utter peasants so they can live like gods. Picture The Hunger Games made real.

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Papi_Chulo

The WEF's vision would turn us into the equivalent of indentured servants

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Icee Loco (asshole)

We're basically serfs and indentured servants for landlords and business owners.

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san_jose_guy

We live in a world of extreme surplus, but the attachment to individual ownership is what keeps us in an economic and ecological impass.

SJG

X - Burning House of Love (live) youtube.com

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san_jose_guy

We have an increasing portion of our population, and an increasing percentage of children, living below the poverty line.

Squirrel Cage economics is the reason for this. Totally unnecessary, but there it is.

Basic Human Rights are being trampled on to keep things the way they are. weforum.org

And it is the countries which have universal health care that have average life expectancies of 80. Here it is about 5 years less, and with a much higher infant mortality rate.

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weforum.org

And COVID has been the thing which shut the Squirrel Cage down. We needed to have made the change at that time. We didn't, instead we just sent our currency into a tail spin, while putting working people into an even worse situation.

And you Tetradon continue to prove why the poor need to stand up for themselves, no differently than the Irish Republican Army.

SJG

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san_jose_guy

^^^ Most interesting.

Thanks Icey.

SJG

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Icee Loco (asshole)

Tetraplop resorting to personal attacks as usual.

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san_jose_guy

Tetradon, they greatest purchasing power for the American working man was from 1969 - 1972, since then it has been down hill.

And the time of greatest economic expansion has in the Eisenhauer-Kennedy years with a top tax rate of 90%.

And about my f2f life you know absolutely nothing and are just one big open rectum fouling this board.

SJG

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san_jose_guy

Tetradon, you still don't know anything about my F2F life. It is private and very well protected.

High progressive taxes is basic Keynesianism.

It keeps the money circulating, instead of being used to inflate securities and real estate ponzi schemes.

SJG

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san_jose_guy

With state and fed tax, it could be higher.

It was only the very rich. But I do not know the number. Under the 90% bracket there was an 80% and a 70% etc.

Purchasing power dropped for one reason because we had to start paying fair prices for crude oil because of OPEC.

But then people elected Reagan and he gutted progressive taxation.

And Tetradon, my f2f life is private and well protected. You are again starting to sound like you are either suicidal or intoxicated.

SJG

Paul Rana, Just Masons youtube.com

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Icee Loco (asshole)

The US has always been a plutocratic kleptocracy. It was founded by rich white men who didn't want to pay taxes

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san_jose_guy

The point is to get the money back from the rich and back into circulation. The poor do not accumulate money and use it to inflate the securities and real estate markets, they can't afford that.

So it is the rich whom are holding money and preventing it from being taxed back and respent to create employment and business opportunities.

The architect of Bretton Woods and post war prosperity was John Maynard Keynes. And people have since scrutinized this and found that the highest economic growth occurs at a top tax rate of 85%>

So if we are going to make our economics work and go to UBI, Medicare for all, strong public housing (should be profitable), and free college and college debt forgiveness, we have to understand that they way the money bleeds out is because the rich have tap roots going deep into our economy. They ride on the backs of the poor and workers, and the middle-class. So that is where the money will end up.

So you have to raise taxes on high incomes and on large wealth accumulations in order to get that money back so that it can recirculate.

SJG

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yahtzee74

"That's some awfully aggressive predictions to happen within the next 8 years."

Sorry, forgot to say that this video is from 2016.

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Icee Loco (asshole)

Go preach to the homeless. 🤡

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Icee Loco (asshole)

What do you get out if calling him homeless? You're closer to being homeless than to the super rich whose assess you rim

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Icee Loco (asshole)

No it's not . San Jose has public wifi Hotspots and I know someone who lives close to a library and gets their wifi like a block away 24 7.

He keeps his f2f life private

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Icee Loco (asshole)

Libraries are open on Sundays.

He could just work nights or has a bad cell phone data plan.

Some people share more some share less.

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Icee Loco (asshole)

A homeless person can get wifi a lot of places. only place I can see internet use being limited is a half way house.

And I'm not talking about sjg. Truth is for all his quirks he's a lot more informed and socially conscious than most here.

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yahtzee74

"If you have nothing (which is most of the world) then this is not a bad message. You don't have to own a home or a car to live a good life."

This could describe the life of a pet.

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CandymanOfProvidence

I want to attend this for one reason.

Go up to the president of Brazil and say: "Thanks Bolsonaro, caca"

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yahtzee74

tetradon "@Yahtzee, this is what that writer's bizarre fantasy sounds like"

Thanks for the links.

WEF founder Schwab has also written a couple of books. The Fourth Industrial Revolution and The Great Reset.

You can download them here: carter-heavy-industries.com carter-heavy-industries.com

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