Whoopi Goldberg is right
Dave_Anderson
Whoopi Goldberg pointed out the obvious (" the [world War II era] Holocaust was about man's inhumanity to man" not about any specific race.
This is so obviously true, the narrative controllers at the ADL had to spring into action and demand not just the usual apologies and payoffs but formal "suspension."
Seriously? So I guess I would be suspended for having the same view? Worse yet I extend this to slavery and all other authorities in history as well. The only way we come together as a species is by acknowledging that all human groups have done bad to each other and all human groups have had bad things done to them. This is a core principle of mine.
Apparently the ADL won't allow this to even be discussed. This is "cancel" culture on amphetamines. It needs to stop.
Whoopie is absolutely right.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/whoopi-go…
This is so obviously true, the narrative controllers at the ADL had to spring into action and demand not just the usual apologies and payoffs but formal "suspension."
Seriously? So I guess I would be suspended for having the same view? Worse yet I extend this to slavery and all other authorities in history as well. The only way we come together as a species is by acknowledging that all human groups have done bad to each other and all human groups have had bad things done to them. This is a core principle of mine.
Apparently the ADL won't allow this to even be discussed. This is "cancel" culture on amphetamines. It needs to stop.
Whoopie is absolutely right.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/whoopi-go…
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I assumed they were casualties of war and so that the Germans could get away with trying to eliminate the opponent, they brainwashed their people into the dumb ass thinking that Jews were inferior.
But I don’t think this thought came before the act, I think it was a cover up for the act.
"I just know I am Jewish. I practise nothing. I don't go to temple, but I do remember the holidays. Religion is a lot of work, it's exhausting. So I keep it simple, I have a pretty good relationship with God. We talk.'"
Goldberg is not her original last name. She doesn’t actively practice as a Jew, but obviously had strong feelings in their favor previously. I’m not explaining what she said, but it’s possible what she was getting at was that aspects of the Holocaust were bigger than, not lesser, than race. I could see her thinking that way as a black woman who (trigger word) identifies with the Jews.
https://www.thejc.com/news/uk/whoopi-gol…
It’s sad how folks in 2022 have lost the historical perspective of the holocaust. Nowadays folks scream racism as soon as they perceive some minuscule offense. The numbers of folks who survived the holocaust are declining significantly, and we must remember and understand the true evil that took place during that time.
The Nazis were able to convince the German people that Jews were a different (and inferior) race. They demonized the Jews and made them appear to basically be less than human. They worked at this campaign for years, and they were very effective. This was well before any Information Age, so there wasn’t social media, or any simple method of reaching the masses. It was done at a true grass roots level. Loud speakers in town centers, and pamphlets, and word of mouth.
This makes the Nazi campaign even more awful, as they had to use every means possible. This wasn’t an ill informed television personality spouting off, it was a coordinated campaign of true evil. The effective demonization of a race. This is just their disinformation campaign.
Once they began treating Jews in the manner they had conditioned their people to be appropriate, things were already in place. The herding of humans on cattle cars, burning humans alive in ovens, gassing them, and more horrific acts than we will ever know.
This was the most awful act of racism ever perpetrated. Don’t let self serving current organizations tell you it’s not racism. This was a coordinated campaign to exterminate a race from the planet. Whether someone has the same skin color or not, is not the underlying tenet of racism. Don’t let others fool you. There is no good to come from any person who looks at another and thinks they are inherently superior. Remember this when you read certain teachings, as there are undercurrents in some curriculums indicating certain races are evil and bad. If we don’t learn from history, we are condemned to repeat it.
Dave why don’t you eat ground glass, you piece if shit
Be nice of the media showed us the true colors of some communities; like in New jersey where blacks intentionally murdered Jews in a delicatessen, and which was ignored by democrats nationwide.
Jews were just one of the groups being exterminated. Like the native Americans were jn the US.
For the record I am, and you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about as usual !
... but I know I'm likely wrong about that...
Goldberg's statements might be only a sliver of a larger, more complex set of beliefs that she holds, but to try to showcase them on a short-segment entertainment talk show was, at best, tone deaf. On the face of it, though, she's wrong.
The Holocaust was absolutely about race. And while targets of the Holocaust included several non-Jewish groups, the group put primarily in the cross-hairs was ethnic Jews. And the result was over 6 million ethnic Jews murdered, accounting for 1/3 of the world's Jewish population at the time.
A complicating factor for *today* is the reality that Judaism can function both as a faith and as an ethnicity. But this was far less of a factor in the 1930s and 1940s when conversion to Judaism was relatively rare. At that time, anti-Semitism was absolutely a function of race. So, while it might be true that the Nazi Holocaust was not *exclusively* about Jews, it's absolutely true that ethnic Jews were an outsized, primary focus of the Holocaust.
If you believe that an attempt to gas off an entire ethnicity isn't racism, then you're tragically stupid and bad at the basics of being human.
The first concentration camps were built for communists. The first ethnicities targeted were Basques and catalans sent there when Hitler gave military support to Franco during the Spanish Civil War.
Also let's please not forget the genocide of native Americans and concentration camps for the Japanese americans
The Nazi Holocaust was a function of racism.
And you are, again, just saying whatever you think will create the most turmoil.
He embodies the worst tendencies of the anti-intellectual, paranoiac right. He passes off blatant falsehoods (Nazism not about a specific race, are you fucking kidding me????) as hot takes. Even when his posts get more mainstream, he comes off really bitchy.
I can't tell if he's a troll or not because he embodies Poe's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_la… ), that extreme views and parodies thereof look very much alike. He has the trollish, small-penis tendency of liking his own posts, putting him in with undesirables like Cacaplop.
But he's got balls. It takes balls to admit they get "the truth" from Alex Jones.
While we do remember the holocaust we mostly turn a blind eye to atrocities in China and let things happen again. Boycott China.
You're butt hurt by history. Holocaust museums have exhibits for all the people who died not just jews.
I am Jewish and you are an Anti-Semetic son of a bitch, you wouldn't ever talk like this in person you gutless coward.
And everyone talks about all the victims of the Holocaust. That's not anti semitic.
How do you honor the victims of the native American genocide or the Japanese American concentration camp survivors?
But you're only bringing them up in this thread because you feel like stirring shit for your own entertainment, which isn't remotely new.
As to her suspension- it’s window dressing. The leftists realize how hypocritical they would look if they didn’t give one of their own the lightest possible dose of “cancel culture”.
you are an anti-semetic stupid son of a bitch.
Typo. 'What' should have been 'The'.
My bad typing aside, you're still just picking fights for your own entertainment.
Neurodivergent muthafuckaz
No, it wasn't. Although it was horrific. I don't know definitively what is the "worst genocide in history," but a more likely contender is any of the multiple genocides committed by Genghis Khan. There are multiple Asian and Middle Eastern cultures that are only known because other historical accounts from the time note that Khan obliterated them systematically. Historians who are considered "Khan apologists" state that his reign resulted in the deaths of 10 to 15 million people. Other less forgiving historians think that somewhere between 40 to 60 million people died as a result of his reign. Considering the population density during the early 13th century, even 10 to 15 million is a pretty shocking number.
yahtzee74 said: "While they [Native Americans] were rounded up, they were not slaughtered."
Yes they were. I mean, not with the same clockwork efficiency of the Nazis, but Native Americans were absolutely slaughtered outside of formal battlefield settings. And the deaths of Native Americans is much higher than 15,000 when you take into account the numerous different "schemes" put in place to solve the "Indian problem," including eugenics and the intentional spreading of disease to Native American tribes. The early reservations were essentially places where the U.S. government hoped that Native Americans would die off over time.
Then again, this thing where we're trying to figure out which genocide "weighs more" is really just Icee trying to stir shit for no other reason than it entertains him.
Also, the Nazi Holocaust was a function of racism. Dave can go fuck himself.
Icee is here to stir the pot. His goal is to provide opposing views, to try and get the members agitated. There is no use in engaging him.
I understand we likely all have strong views regarding the holocaust, and the opposing views he pushes are offensive and uninformed, but he is simply trying to get us worked up. Providing a reply is what encourages him, and providing an angry reply is even more satisfying to him.
If we just ignore him, he will go away. He needs the interaction.
Just my two cents.
The native Americans we're slaughtered much the way nazi genocide victims were. In fact Hitler admired it and copied it. The use of small pox to kill native Americans. The trail of tears. All precursors to what was to come.
And then planned parenthood was modeled on nazi eugenics and aimed at keeping minority and poor birth rates low. Then the use of forced sterilization in the US.... plus the amnesty for nazis jn west Germany and filling their gov with them thanks to the US coz they were the only viable anti communists there. The Cia recruiting nazi collaborators from Eastern Europe to set up radio free Europe
To imply, suggest, claim, assert, or even hint that the Murder of more than 6,000,000 European Jews by the National Socialists led by Adolph Hitler was anything less than the most overt and horrific act of Racist genocide in modern history - is to demonstrate an extreme level of ignorance or stupidity (perhaps both).
I’m not sure what Icey means.
Does he think it was even worse than the despicable mass genocide that is historically documented and reported?
Or
Does he mean it wasn’t as bad as history portrays it?
The Holocaust was worse than what is said.
https://youtu.be/mSOEpq8s6Dk