Not sure if this is disallowed or not. If not, I fully understand and may founder tear my thread asunder.
I've browsed some private full body sensual massage / escort sites over the past few days. Any of you mongers ever try it? Amd if so, how does it compare to SC'ing with OTC?
Genuinely seems cheaper for sure....
There is, or was, an excellent article from one of our members on why he thinks strippers are the "caviar" of paid sex. I suggest perusing that article for what many of us think about why we do this rather than that.
For me, in my area, the escort scene has gotten pretty bad. The vast majority of escorts are drugged up, old, or nasty as fuck. Asian Massage Parlors range from bordellos with 40-plus (sometimes very "plus") year old providers who will get you off as fast as possible for what I consider exorbitant rates (saran wrap blow jobs are apparently pretty common here) to non-Asian ones that are usually limited to hand job only. Don't get me wrong, a well executed hand job after a decent rub is a singular pleasure, even, or maybe especially, from an older woman, but for me, nothing beats sliding my dick into a hot, young, fit, stripper that knows how to make a man feel like a man. :D
Seems like it is better to meet your women f2f, like at a strip club, and then to proceed from there.
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Doesn't have to be an "either/or" decision. Experiment and report, please.
An escort being cheaper can depend on the reputation and hotness of the escort you're looking at. But, a well-reviewed escort can provide a pleasurable, though more predictable, encounter. They charge what they charge; they are generally reliable on timing and experience. They are also far more transactional and cookie-cutter. In some regions where strip clubs are not great and very low mileage, going to the nearest major city where high(er)-end touring escorts pass through is a better option than trying to pan for gold in a strip club.
Big drawback ... almost all of the better escorts will want you to fork over a lot of personal information to prove that you're not law enforcement as part of their screening process. I totally understand why they do it, but it's discouraging to a lot of guys. I've had many great OTC experiences without having to hand over my driver's license, current employer information, or LinkedIn profile.
To each their own.
Ishmael, good post, i have seen that with highend escorts. How does you providing personal information like drivers license and employment info prove youre not law enforcement? I heard the reason escorts collect those details is not for law enforcement verification but so they can easily report you if something goes wrong. Of course, only the drivers license helps with that. I heard they ask for employment information because its blackmail insurance. Something goes wrong or even if it doesn’t go wrong they can threaten to contact your employer and expose you or complain about you
Escorts aren't cheaper than OTC unless you're doing something really dumb, like doing 60-minute OTCs. If you're doing OTCs with a stripper who has a an escort-like pricing model, then you're getting the worst of all worlds: escort-like professionalism combined with stripper-like reliability. If you're doing that, better off with escorts, perhaps. But if you're doing "per date" style pricing with OTC, given that many OTCs go for hours and sometimes overnights, the pricing difference vanishes. Many escorts in this area charge $1500-$2000+ for an overnight; even with hotel room, dinner, drinks, etc., you won't spend that on an OTC. I have a lot more thoughts in my article here: tuscl.net
TL;DR on escorts: multi-hour OTCs are better value than multi-hours with escorts, with a hotter girl, who hasn't fucked 4 other guys that day... if you're willing to put up with the possibility of her flaking etc. If you just want a warm hole to bang for an hour, escorts are fine I guess
To me, FBSMs are a bit different, and I personally have always had room for both SCing and FBSM. FBSM really is a bunch cheaper, I don't really want more than an hour FBSM, FBSM when done well provides a different more sensual experience that puts it in a different category. So from time to time, I want to just set an appointment, get a super sexy massage and expert handy, all for much cheaper than an escort or OTC? I'm in!
“ FBSM when done well provides a different more sensual experience that puts it in a different category. So from time to time, I want to just set an appointment, get a super sexy massage and expert handy, all for much cheaper than an escort or OTC? I'm in!”
I very much second that^. FBSM is a very different sensual experience and an underrated option. Sometimes it’s a great change of pace.
Subraman, what are you paying for these overnight otcs with strippers and how are you paying so little Especially on a Friday or Saturday night, Arent strippers able to pull in $800 or $1000 or more? So why would they do an overnight for less than that unless its like a weekday night
The money isn't as consistent these days, so I don't think they can be guaranteed that much on any particular shift. But that's irrelevant -- with CA's move to employee status, shifts are much smaller so not every girl even has the option of working Friday or Saturday night anymore. So, if she's not doing anything anyway, here I am. That's irrelevant too though, since I prefer weekdays lol. (in short, nothing you've raised has any impact on OTC prices)
I don't necessarily pay so little. I pay for an OTC. Typically, we go out to dinner, go out for drinks and get good and buzzed, go back to the hotel room and have sex; sometimes I bring a bottle so we drink more there. I don't negotiate for overnights or how long the OTC will last. Some strippers just decide it's late, they're drunk and tired, so they might as well crash. I've had OTC strippers who pretty much always crash, some who did it when they got too drunk. But it's their choice, I just pay my OTC fee. That's why I question those who PLs who pre-negotiate time, it's just dumb.
Subraman why do you say the otc with a stripper is a hotter girl? The escorts seem to be hotter more often but it depends on location i guess
Why are strippers so likely to flake
What rates have you paid for otc before?
He's already met the stripper, and knows what he's getting, with the escort it's a crapshoot, she might be a hottie and she might look good with the personality of a door. Strippers are more likely to flake because many of them live in the moment and just like anyone else with ADHD which is typical of living in the moment, they get easily distracted.
Heavily dependant on your area whether they (the fbsm sites) are worthwhile or not. I'd say that seeking fbsm takes some of the guesswork out the end product, and can def be cheaper. Most SWers who advertise fbsm also provide other services too