I’m out, I’m done, progressives you won
Muddy
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article…
Alvin Bragg new Manhattan DA. Under his reign armed robbery, if nobody is injured is a misdemeanor. Combined with bail reform that means they don’t even go to jail while they await trial. So you could put a gun to a guys head, rob his store, get your ticket and walk scott free. Robert Morgenthau is spinning in his grave.
Progressives I just have to take moment to congratulate you, put it in the Guinness book of world records, run away winner, your are the dumbest motherfuckers in history of the universe. You did it. You won. You got it. You fucked up LA, San Francisco, Portland is still burning, Seattle, Chicago, St Louis, Philadelphia and now New York City. I’m done, I refuse to live in a state thats run by people that make and Icey Loco seem only mildly retarded. I refuse to step into the rocket ship and blast off to Planet Xenon with the rest of you. Not doin it.
I’m moving out to the boonies somewhere, don’t want to hear another one of these radical lefties speak again, it’s gives me severe migraine headaches and drops my IQ 10 points every time. I’m not going on this ride. I’m not gonna do the San Francisco experiment. I’ve had enough of this stupid shit for a lifetime. Fuck it all.
Alvin Bragg new Manhattan DA. Under his reign armed robbery, if nobody is injured is a misdemeanor. Combined with bail reform that means they don’t even go to jail while they await trial. So you could put a gun to a guys head, rob his store, get your ticket and walk scott free. Robert Morgenthau is spinning in his grave.
Progressives I just have to take moment to congratulate you, put it in the Guinness book of world records, run away winner, your are the dumbest motherfuckers in history of the universe. You did it. You won. You got it. You fucked up LA, San Francisco, Portland is still burning, Seattle, Chicago, St Louis, Philadelphia and now New York City. I’m done, I refuse to live in a state thats run by people that make and Icey Loco seem only mildly retarded. I refuse to step into the rocket ship and blast off to Planet Xenon with the rest of you. Not doin it.
I’m moving out to the boonies somewhere, don’t want to hear another one of these radical lefties speak again, it’s gives me severe migraine headaches and drops my IQ 10 points every time. I’m not going on this ride. I’m not gonna do the San Francisco experiment. I’ve had enough of this stupid shit for a lifetime. Fuck it all.
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I plan to be spending time in NYC now!
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In the vast majority of situations, when guns are used they are used for bad.
Deal with trouble makers without guns:
http://guardianangels.org/
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Papi chulo excessive sentences are a huge burden on tax payers. A lot of it has to do with the cost of incarceration. Plus alternate forms of punishment that help with re entry into the general population.
This seems to be mocking but there is a trend of people moving from certain blue states.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisdorsey…
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SJG logging in at the New York Public Library. May want to rethink that move buddy, someone is going to steal your Huffy bike real quick, probably beat the shit out of you for no reason and you'll be awfully cold in your cardboard box during February in NYC.
@Papi yeah and I believe only 17% voted so that's likely most of the extremist vote. Nobody votes, so the extremists will win out.
@Nice anywhere where they don't bow down and worship murderous gang bangers. Major metropolitan areas, it's getting harder and harder to find. You got to really be out in the sticks.
Icee we'll see how down your are with the cause when somebody in your family or even yourself gets hurt. But until then it's totally cool if happens to somebody else or their family right? Right.
Then you have to expand that out to the state level. I left Illinois because the Chicago-Springfield democrat corruption dragged the whole state left and down. Same for Detroit, California, NY, etc. It is stUpid to recognize how backwards those places are, but to live there anyway. I understand the challenges of moving, but sometimes you just have to make the change. Let the bastard commie liberals destroy those places and eat each other.
The real danger to the freedom loving patriots of this nation is when the same bastard commies move to free states like Florida and Texas and start voting the same stupid way that ruined their old home state. Like I said, the majority of this nation are idiots.
Having a hard on crime position on everything other than being a trick coz you pay hoes makes you sound like idiots
And LA isn't? LA is just a more spaced out shithole with palm trees. I've been there several times and it's shameful how they've let that place go outside of a few glossy tourist sections. Tourists can't even do the walk of stars at night because of all the hookers and drug dealers.
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"Ooh fun, where were you thinking of moving to?"
This seems to be mocking but there is a trend of people moving from certain blue states.
www.forbes.com”
Okay just read that. Idk why is the author using Ohio as one of the states people are choosing to be a refugee from blue states at? So yes Columbus has been on the upswing consistently for decades as far as population growth. And (anyone can correct me if I’m wrong) I get the impression it’s a more democrat over there, thanks to university influence?
But as for the rest of the state…it’s definitely not some Mecca people are going to. Though Cincinnati did have population increases after a couple decades of decline. But Cleveland, Dayton, Akron, Toledo has been consistent population decline for decades for whatever reason.
Meanwhile super blue Portland and Seattle, including in 2021, has had consistent population growth. Nothing crazy high in their percentages. But it’s there. People from California go to those places too.
Also I wanted to point out: , geographic mobility has been down in general as far as moving goes. Not just now, but for decades.
https://www.brookings.edu/research/what-…
When people move, I get the impression it’s mostly for affordability reasons, not ideological. (Though it certainly does help that red areas tend to be more affordable.) And that a “people are fleeing” (from anywhere to anywhere really) narrative is overblown. Though IMO it probably would be a good idea if more people were to actually flee to wherever would make them happiest. And I personally wish that narrative was true.
I’ve been reading a fair amount of demography topics lately just because I’m a dork. Sorry for the hijack but IMO that Forbes article is just sensationalizing and more about narrative pushing than facts.
Maybe something like these places…?
https://www.greatvaluecolleges.net/30-gr…
When you tax the shit out of your highest earners, eventually they get tired of it. When you lock people down for many months on end, eventually those with the means to leave will do so. Contrary to your theory about affordability, it is largely affluent people fleeing places like NY and CA, not low income folks. Moving ain't cheap.
“ Contrary to your theory about affordability, it is largely affluent people fleeing places like NY and CA, not low income folks. Moving ain't cheap.”
I’m just going to point out that there are a lot more non-affluent than affluent people who live. Therefore, congressional seats have more to do with the non affluent bodies somewhere.
If you want to make your focus on rich people, they are diversifying where they buy property in general. (And it’s NOT just Texas, Florida conservative places exclusively) But they haven’t abandoned the “established” places and NY and LA have still been going. NY took a big hit in 2020, LA did not. And in 2021 New York rebounded.
https://issuu.com/thereportgroup/docs/co…
No, it just means that CA and NY are losing the people who can afford to move and keeping the bulk who can't.
Nice, this issue is well understood by folks who are following it. NYS' last Governor and NYC's new Mayor are so concerned about the loss of their biggest taxpayers that they actively reached out to try to get them back. Below is a good article on the topic:
https://brooklyneagle.com/articles/2021/…
Also one regarding similar challenges faced by CA, which will only get worse as they have recently increased wealth taxes yet more:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/23/why-comp…
For every action there is a reaction. Even the affluent have limits on how much they want to hand over ot the government.
mayor I do a lot of business in NY
As far as the rest,
Where is Snake Pliskin when we need him!!!
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Realtor.com and Redfin both announced they would not include neighborhood crime data.
At least two home buying sites have eschewed including crime maps for neighborhoods on their websites over concerns that the crime data available is biased against minorities.
Realtor.com and Redfin both announced on the same day in December that they will no longer provide crime data for neighborhoods on their websites over racial bias concerns.
On December 13, Realtor.com’s CEO David Doctorow wrote in a blog post that the company has been working to “break down those hurdles” relating to discrimination in home ownership.
“For example, earlier this month, we removed the crime map layer from all search results on Realtor.com to rethink the safety information we share on Realtor.com and how we can best integrate it as part of a consumer’s home search experience,” Doctorow wrote.
Doctorow added that Realtor.com will now “reimagine” how to provide safety data for buyers.
“In the weeks and months ahead, we plan to examine closely what neighborhood safety means for buyers and renters who use our site so we can reimagine how we integrate safety data on Realtor.com. Our goal is to ensure we are providing consumers with the most valuable, fair and accurate neighborhood data so they can make informed decisions about where they want to rent or purchase their next home,” the Realtor.com CEO added.
The company does not have anything further to share at this point beyond the initial blog post announcing the crime map would be removed, Stephanie Singer, Realtor.com’s senior director of corporate communications, told The Daily Wire.
Redfin said the company recently decided not to add crime data to its real estate buying website because doing so could reinforce racial bias.
Christian Taubman, Redfin’s chief growth officer, wrote in a December 13 blog post that Redfin is aware people want to know “whether they’ll feel safe in a given home or neighborhood,” but “the data available don’t allow us to speak accurately to that question, and given the long history of redlining and racist housing covenants in the United States there’s too great a risk of this inaccuracy reinforcing racial bias.”
“We believe that Redfin–and all real estate sites–should not show neighborhood crime data,” Taubman wrote.
Taubman said Redfin considered using data from both the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report and the National Crime Victimization Survey from the Bureau of Justice Statistics, but both of those data sources had issues, such as missing, unreported crimes.
“In the 2019 survey, people reporting crimes were more likely to describe their offender as young, male, and Black than would be expected given the representation of those groups in the population,” Taubman explained.
Redfin will continue to add more data to its site, but “in this case we’re confident that the crime data that are available today ought not to be on Redfin or any other real estate site,” Taubman wrote.
Both Realtor.com and Redfin rank in the five most trafficked real estate websites in the U.S. as of October.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/real-esta…
Obama, Clinton, Winfrey Team Up To Convince Manchin To Kill Filibuster
According to a report, Democrats are so desperate to eliminate the Senate filibuster — which would enable the Democrats, who control the Senate, to pass legislation regarding voting that would be highly favorable to them— that two former presidents and celebrity Oprah Winfrey have contacted Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV), who is considered the pivotal vote in the Senate, to pressure him into accepting the filibuster’s demise.
Former presidents Barack Obama and Bill Clinton have joined Winfrey in the cooperative effort to persuade Manchin, according to Politico.
“Manchin has told colleagues that his phone line has been lighting up with prominent names outside the Senate in recent days. He’s heard from former Presidents Bill Clinton and Barack Obama and talk-show legend Oprah Winfrey, plus former staffers to both Manchin and former Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.), according to a person familiar with the talks,” Politico reported.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/obama-cli…
In this country there are ongoing court cases over racial voter disenfranchisement under the CA Fair Voting Rights Act. And the disenfranchisement is completely driven by the Real Estate Industry.
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Senator Obama filibustered all the time. Was it a "Jim Crow relic"?
Chuck Schumer said in 2005 that killing the filibuster would be "doomsday" for democracy. Is it or isn't it?
As far as the original topic, we've swapped (A) a highly overblown problem (police killing of unarmed black men) for (B) a real and growing problem (spiking murder rates, usually of young black men, as well as robbery, assault, and theft).
I think it worthwhile to look at how things are going and to hear what people are saying. Boudin is currently the subject of a recall campaign. But the in response to some bold day after Thanksgiving armed robberies at department stores, Boudin has come out talking real tough.
I think we just need to listen to what unfolds and what is being said.
And note that both Bragg and Boudin are refusing to enforce the Prostitution Law.
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On the Neighborhood Groups people were saying that the strip club would promote street prostitution, as the SG would be the back up crew for the strippers in servicing clients.
And then they usually say that street prostitution causes other types of crime.
With Bragg and Boudin though I think there are broader issues, these guys are backing off on enforcing all sorts of crimes, most misdemeanors. And then listening to Bragg, he seems to what to go further.
So I am hoping that people can post more links as this discussion advances so that we can better understand.
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They follow them around, like into McDonalds and they encourage others to do the same. And basically these women are pretty close to bag ladies.
Politicians talk about how agressive they are going to be in cracking down on street prostitution, and in blocking the licensing of this SR Gold Club. Probably there never was any legal means of blocking it. And they talk about nonsense ideas like having the city buy up two motels being used, and then letting the homeless live in there.
This is all lynch mob stuff and the sanitizer politicians lead the way.
Mayor Sam Liccardo has been one of the leaders and he comes out of that council district seat.
The homes there are old and extremely expensive. The owners do not want their neighborhood to become wild and wooly.
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I believe he has instructed "...prosecutors to avoid seeking jail time for include certain robberies and assaults, as well as gun possession in cases where no other crimes are involved." https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/06/nyreg… ...which would seem to be no jail time if you just have a gun, which I think is mostly illegal in NY City?
That said, while I see myself as a mild progressive, sometimes too much progressive politics doesn't end up being "progress". Progressives in NYC, Portland, and certain jagoff Seattle city council members and SJW's test my liberal/institutionalist patience, and I would think just about anybody who reads and thinks critically. For example a recent Seattle DA candidate wanted to make poverty an alibi for misdemeanors including unarmed robbery. Thankfully she was defeated.
So I can certainly empathize with the impulse to say fuck it and move out.
In fact, if Seattle didn't have certain music venues, bars, and strip clubs, I wouldn't stay 6 months after my kids graduate. I might just split anyway.
Afghanistan was the perfect war for defense contractors, exactly because it was a permanent, unwinnable cluster fuck. The best cash cow is when the cow is immortal. Our criminal "justice" system is the same. It takes people who don't have good options, plus people who are just smoking some weed or something, and makes sure they have even fewer good options. Have no doubt this is a huge source of steady profit for a few people, and a steady decent job with good benes for many others.
It may be this DA is like the libiots in Minneapolis, with their police "reform" ballot measure. They got shut down by the people who most need effective police reform, working class black residents. But police reform is a real problem you can't run away from. Wherever you go, it will have to be dealt with, sooner or later.
The police aren't always right I'll be critical of them too but lunatic radical leftists (now the majority of the dem party) who send them out like lambs to slaughter are never right.
One of the problems is that we've converted too many police departments from true crime fighting and safety outfits into onerous revenue collection units. Traffic stops have increased dramatically over the last several decades and poor people have borne the brunt of it. What starts as a seatbelt ticket that someone can't afford to pay eventually becomes a license suspension and, when that person is pulled over again, a trip to a jail cell. Way too many of our problematic traffic stop incidents start because some poor person is driving with a bad tag or license becomes desperate when the flashing lights show up behind them once again.
Did that person suddenly forget how to drive or become more dangerous just because his/her license or tag was bad? Of course not. Yet we treat these people like animals, towing away their cars and throwing them in jail all because they could not afford a fine. Eventually people are going to lash out.
Yet on the flip side, when police are completely handcuffed, crime spikes and, once again, poor folk are the predominant victims. Most of the violence is happening in poor urban neighborhoods and it is a tragedy.
There has to be a more balanced way of doing this.
I know.
If you believe in the letter of the law then what should your punishment for solicitation be?
I just did, but somehow it didn't make the dipshits who support asinine policies like "defund the police" and CRT look any smarter.
All that will be left will be the shit who don’t know any better than to live in the filth of the pigsty they created.
The really unfortunate part is these zombie cities will continue to need massive taxpayer support, so the good people who escaped, and everyone else, will have to pay for their lazy, stupid, corrupt ways.
CRT is a very academic subject covered in relevant graduate school programs. Mostly, when people say they are against CRT, it's because they don't want to show their whole ass, by saying they are against teaching the truth about slavery in the US, and the killing of Native Americans, including children, who were not fighting back.
So these Soros backed DA's are ignoring low level crime so they can focus on more serious crime? That's what your going with? How's that working out for Philadelphia with all time murder record in 2021. Larry Krasner Philly's DA even had a show about "reimagining the criminal justice system" Don't get even me started on Chicago. I know these murders are just numbers to you and everyone else of the liberal elite, casualties are a small price to pay for being woke. It's not you after all, so who cares?
Where you live Icey, George Gascon wants nobody to do more than 20 years. That includes, everyone including true story, felons that raped and murdered children. Release them back into the community. If that's what your about Icee then that's what your about. I'm against the rape and murder of children, your for it. We the rational people left in America back victims of violent crime. You back the violent criminal 100%. It is what it is. We just have to agree to disagree.
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Yes. The point is to stop the system from being clogged up with lesser crimes and to start addressing the over saturation of prisons with unreasonable sentences. The end result is more attention to cases that need it.
Blaming exaggerated crime rates on DAs is ridiculous. It's just fear mongering.
The justice system needs major restructuring.
Go turn yourself in for solicitation and tell them you want the strictest penalty
The Waukesha parade massacre, the Milwaukee DA admitted it was only a matter of time before someone on a low bail committed murder. He accepted that as the cost of implementing his policy.
Progressive DAs need to go. Boudin, Gascon, Krasner, Bragg for starters.
We can "address the oversaturation of prisons" by decriminalizing most drugs.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-0…
AOC is an idiot.
It says something that it's rich white folks in rich white neighborhoods that want to defund, and working class black people that want more cops (and of course good cops).
Icee do you have anything to say to the family of this young girl? Anything at all? You endorse this behavior, after all I'm sure the criminal had a "hard life" Perfectly cool to kill some young girl with her whole life ahead of here in cold blood. No consequences, and hell if there is any jail time it won't be long so who gives a shit. Anyone can just rob, shoot, murder, whatever the fuck. The radical left has their back and endorses them 150%. I just wanted to know if you could explain your progressive ideals to this girls mother. Why don't you tell her how she needs to be more woke?
Hey it's not your daughter, not your sister, who was killed, so who gives a fuck!
Good paying jobs and community development are the most effective crime deterrents.
Vigilantism promotes violent crimes. Cops acting as extrajudicial executioners terrorizes communities. Extreme penalties make criminals more desperate.
But I get it you believe in prosecuting criminals other than yourselves. You exaggerate every crime other than the ones you engage in by partaking in solicitation. Which makes your arguments sound ridiculous.
I wonder what some would think of a 17 year old mowing down people at a protest with an assault rifle. Oh wait...
I don't know of anyone mowed down with an assault rifle, only a clear case of lawful self-defense.
If you can't see the correlation between poverty and crimes of desperation I suggest you get out more.
Also keep jn mind DAS get screwed over at times and have their hands tied when trying to push for tougher sentences on criminals. Picture what the families of rittenhouses victims must feel knowing the criminal who murdered their loved ones got off despite the DA pushing for the maximum sentencing. I understand your outrage at cases like that
Rittenhouse didn't have victims, he's not a criminal, and he didn't murder anyone. He was acquitted by a jury of his peers. If the DA didn't overcharge him for the PR, they might have gotten a conviction on something.
But
So the DA in the Rittenhouse case overcharged him???? He was being too tough on someone who killed 3 people??? The DA should have been more lenient like Bragg would recommed?
Now he's angling for a piece of all the media networks that went after him to show how much they love black people. And you're impotenrly whinging on an SC message board.
In your head the law should be upheld as you see fit based on your political positions and personal choices. Ruttenhouse should be allowed to kill and you should face no repercussions for solicitation
I don't think you know what's in my head. Rittenhouse was tried and acquitted according to the actual law, not your cockamamie legal analysis. Thankfully, armed self-defense is allowed in this country, even when those defended against share the ruling party's beliefs. Hallelujah.
Now let's see how he and Nick Sandmann split ownership of CNN. I wonder who gets Brian Stelter and who gets Anderson Cooper. Lulz.
But basically you're delighted that a judge made a ruling where someone was acquitted of murder for killing 3 people with an assault rifle.
While arguing for tougher sentences on here.
Losers always blame the refs, the ball, the field, something, anything. But you seem to enjoy pissing into this hurricane. Roll a fatty and find a new case to obsess about.
If the felons didn't attack Rittenhouse, they'd still be alive.
You just called the men he killed felons. Hence called his actions extrajudicial killings.
Their past felonies didn't earn them bullets. That just says something about their character. Their putting a reasonable man in fear for his life got them shot.
Now let's discuss something relevant. How much you think Rittenhouse gets from CNN?
If you think a pro law and order orientation means you favor every criminal trial, regardless of the facts, ending with a guilty verdict, you are either trolling or incredibly stupid. Or in your case, both.
Also waiting on Muddy to turn himself in for solicitation
He doesn't seem to grasp that different cases call for different measures depending on the facts.
And yeah even rittenhouses defense admitted to that
Need to see how this plays out.
SJG