Are we more shallow or more honest?
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Keep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
There are even a lot of guys who would say we should stick to women who are "age-appropriate". In truth, I'm actually fine with age-appropriate, my problem is being satisfied pudgy/saggy/homely-appropriate. I'm also not feeling it that sex has to be a prelude to buying real estate with somebody and/or giving them half my shit. Are these guys actually happy with chicks who are as unhot as they are? I'm not saying they are necessarily consciously lying, but maybe trying to talk themselves into something as much as us? Thoughts?
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Never expect in others what you can't expect in yourself
Those two things are not mutually exclusive.
Anyway, I know guys who I believe truly love their plain spouses. Not everyone is wired like us, and that's probably just as well.
IMO most women just want to get married and most guys just cave in.
Just because you're pudgy and homely, doesn't mean the rest of us are, too. I've been swimming and cycling since about age 10. In the case of my wife, she's still cute and works out every day.
Now I do have strong feelings that a spouse should be age-appropriate. No more than five years age difference for a spouse. While it's none of my business, I don't see how you can be married to someone decades younger and be happy. Is she going to be happy changing your diapers when you're in your seventies? It seems like a prescription for unhappiness. Most likely she'll end up cheating on you, and for good reason.
I feel sorry for all the unmarried guys on TUSCL who are paying for sex. What are you going to do when the inevitable happens -- when you get sick and you don't have someone who cares about you?
Cheating on your wife with someone decades younger is the ultimate act of selfishness and immorality. It's also meaningless sex, in my case.
As far as shallow and dishonest? That would apply to the old guys who pay for sex (strippers, SBs, etc) and don't understand that they're johns.
But, I got another taste of filth, several years into my marriage. I started drinking - and got lost in some deeply filthy habits - and it was very selfish.
I have never found interest in younger women, and finding a beauty was not my desire. I still enjoying rough and dirty sex - as a divorced father. It’s not bad.
My problem has always been the need for variety. Even when I had steak at home, sometimes I wanted fish, or chicken, or whatever. Of course the dynamic changed even more as we aged and that variety included the much younger girls with younger bodies.
So as Random said, speak for yourself. My attractive wife gave me three beautiful children and I'm firmly in the camp of having an SO who is age appropriate. I have zero interest in a girl who is in a different place in her life cycle than I am. It's not fair to her or to me. Younger girls are fun for a suck 'n fuck, but I have zero interest in starting over with someone who is in the early stages of child-rearing and who doesn't have the wisdom that the years generally bring.
Yeah, like I said, trying to talk themselves into something.
I’ll even be generous and reprogram the autopilot with rick mode. Nothing better than driving down the street with your bud Johnnie Walker...along with Jack, Jim, and José...an’ watchin’ the hairless apes bouncin’ off the hood. It’s frickin’ hilarious!
But you gotta make sure you miss the cubs and apelings for they are the future. ROAR!!!
Are most strippers boobs even nicer to caress? Yeah, most (not all). So I do some. She accepts that.
To answer your questions:
Q: Are we more shallow or more honest?
A: Being aroused by younger and or healthier looks is/maybe “shallow” but is/maybe “honest”, it is natural and biological...
Q: Are these guys actually happy with chicks who are as unhot as they are? I'm not saying they are necessarily consciously lying, but maybe trying to talk themselves into something as much as us?
A: happiness It is a state of mind where the individual feels/believes that “life is good” to him, even with an “unhot” chick to others idea of hotness.
Remember beauty is in the eyes of the beholder or “beer holder”
From a Seinfeld episode
JERRY: Elaine, what percentage of people would you say are good looking?
ELAINE: Twenty-five percent.
JERRY: Twenty-five percent, you say? No way! It's like 4 to 6 percent. It's a twenty to one shot.
ELAINE: You're way off.
JERRY: Way off? Have you been to the motor vehicle bureau? It's like a leper colony down there.
ELAINE: So what you are saying is that 90 to 95 percent of the population is undateable?
JERRY: UNDATEABLE!
ELAINE: Then how are all these people getting together?
JERRY: Alcohol.
I don’t think we are talking ourselves into anything, I think we are just trying to enjoy life, be happy with the help of:
1. High end escorts, models, centerfolds, pornstars that provide PSE/GFE for the sake of pleasure.
2. Mistresses/Sugar Babies/Strippers ITC OTC; etc, for the daily needs of our bodies.
3. Wives that bore us lawful offspring and are the faithful guardians of our home
4. Realistic Sex Dolls/Gynoids/Fembot, and Internet Porn and Instagram/Onlyfans “Models”, for kicks-and-giggles”
:D