Self-hatred

ilbbaicnl
Keep it in my pants when I do OTC. If I were a stripper it would stand for I like big bucks and I can not lie.
How can we avoid falling into self-hatred, when strippers who let their dogs lick them on the mouth still won't kiss us?

19 comments

  • rickdugan
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    3 years ago
    Speak for yourself, lol.
  • iknowbetter
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    3 years ago
    Yeah. Don’t take it personally but I think I’d rather kiss my dog after he’s been licking his balls than kiss a stripper after she’s blown a dozen customers.
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
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    3 years ago
    They'll kiss you if you pay enough. Gfe.

    Will they like it or so it for any reason other than money? No.

    That's why don't pay for shit like that or sex. I like women who want me.
  • ilbbaicnl
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    3 years ago
    When they have jizz-breath, I claim I'm only there to watch the stage show.

    How much does your dog charge per song to lick his balls?
  • chessmaster
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    3 years ago
    Nowadays a kiss means more than head or sex. Most females would rather blow you sooner than kiss you and that includes civies. Iknowbetter is spot on. I'd probably rather kiss the dog at this point.
  • Cashman1234
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    3 years ago
    When a dog gives a lick (or kiss) - it’s because your breath likely smells like food.

    When a PL kisses a stripper - it’s because he is looking for intimacy. The sex is understood to be part of a transaction, but kissing is a more intimate act.

    Strippers in extras clubs will likely suck your cock - some will swallow upon completion - some will ride your cock until you cum too. It’s usually rare for a stripper to allow for passionate kissing.

    If she does allow kissing, it might be best to offer her a breath mint - so there’s less wang in the taste of her tongue…
  • Tetradon
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    3 years ago
    I've had some strippers force their tongue into my mouth, unexpected. If I'm not too drunk to calculate the number of sperm that swam across her tongue, I'll pull away. Either way, I disinfect thoroughly after that.
  • drewcareypnw
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    3 years ago
    I've kissed a fair number of strippers, and believe me I am no baller. I am fat, over 50, bald, and not in any position to pull women: strippers, civilian or otherwise. I do not pay above standard rates, and don't do any OTC, or do Ho management games or whatever it is that these guys who date strippers claim to do. However, when you are 4 songs deep with an extras girl, she has your cock in her hand, and you are pretty close to finishing, a quick "kiss me" can often result in some LFK and even DFK. It's never like making out with a girl that really likes you, I think it's more of "this fat old fucker is about to shoot his wad and if I give him a little tongue, it'll all be over and I can get paid". The downside there is, sometimes after doing this I get a cold sore on my lip. I get them anyway, but I wonder if the stripper introduced a new variant to me or something. It could all be a coincidence, but I've promised myself "no more kissing strippers", despite how much I like it.


    I don't think I'm getting some PL's sperm in my mouth from kissing a dancer, BTW. The ones that I see coming out of LDAs in dirty Seattle clubs are quick to get to the hand sanitizer and then to the bathroom. I'm certain I've see a few swig mouthwash as they're walking to the bathroom. So, I doubt there is a ton of the last dude's jizz in there, even if she CIM'd him. And I don't really think there is a ton of CIM going on in the first place.


    FWIW my mom worked in an operating room for many years. She claimed that different parts of the body were harder to sterilize for surgery than others. And the dirtiest, most un-sterilize-able body part? The MOUTH. Apparently literally worse than the asshole or colon. I have no idea why.
  • 1Chanman
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    3 years ago
    I've noticed it's usually one or the other. They'll suck and fuck and not kiss or kiss but not take it any further. In my early years, I noticed the girls wanted to do more making out since it kept you for more dances. They'd let you touch and be touched but not in a way to get you off. In the later years I noticed girls were more interested in getting you to pop quickly for lots of money and then send you on your way.
  • skibum609
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    3 years ago
    I kiss a lot of strippers, but luckily I am impervious to all bad things and nothing can happen to me.
  • ilbbaicnl
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    3 years ago
    I've only experienced enjoyable kissing with one ATF. The rest were too clearly forcing themselves, I avoided any repeats with them. A bit better luck with escorts. I think I must be like most people, an asymptomatic carrier of oral herpes, probably genital too.
  • shadowcat
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    3 years ago
    Some do. Some don't. I prefer the ones that do and they get my repeat business. A long time ago a prostitute in Mexico told me no kissing because kissing is how she got pregnant.
  • Tetradon
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    3 years ago
    ^ Virgin Mary?
  • chessmaster
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    3 years ago
    "In the later years I noticed girls were more interested in getting you to pop quickly for lots of money and then send you on your way."

    Yeah its the "hurry up and cum" mentality. Now they have a dozen other avenues to make fast money and a million other things to do rather than servicing some old fat fart in the vip.
  • Studme53
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    3 years ago
    Ha ha - I often let the little head do the thinking and kiss these sluts, who probably had some other dude’s cock in their mouth a few minutes earlier, and always regret it afterwards.
  • ilbbaicnl
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    3 years ago
    One of my ATFs use to rave about how much she loved anal sex. She disappeared, and another dancer told me she was preggers. I expressed concern, I thought she must have had a bad ulcer that went from her rectum to her uterus.
  • Rich_Oates
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    3 years ago
    Reading Drew's comment leads me to believe I'm better off eating her out than kissing her, but then again my club brain is different than my post club brain.
  • motorhead
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    3 years ago
    “I've noticed it's usually one or the other. They'll suck and fuck and not kiss or kiss but not take it any further”

    Yep, that’s been my experience too. I’d engage in marathon make out sessions with two of past favorites. Both took a few visits to develop some trust Lots of DFK with one encouraging FIV and a little DATY but absolutely no further. The flipside is the Detroit airport clubs where you get anything on a first visit
  • Icee Loco (asshole)
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    3 years ago
    The self hatred a lot of men have is the reason behind their dehumanization of and in some cases assault and sexual assault of hoes.

    And you see it a lot on this forum. The way tricks will look down on hoes. Have no problem paying to fuck them but look down on them as people and as women. See them as someone to use or take advantage of. On the flip side you get gfes which are really about control and objectification.
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