Can't be prosecuted for trespassing ? So we can go on a tour of all the move stars homes in Beverly Hills without bothering to tell the movie stars. Maybe get a selfie or two. :-)
With regard to the "prostitution" part of this, it would be one thing if they were going to allow clubs to operate like brothels, without fear of legal penalty. But they're squashing the clubs (and all small businesses) with their Covid rules. This simply means that drug addicted streetwalkers are free to offer sex in an alley or parked car while families with kids are all around.
I hope PD83 reads this - as she is in Vegas. This might help her - if she can get a ride to LA.
They want to lock things down - due to covid - but trespassing and prostitution aren’t being prosecuted? Those would be easy ways to clear the streets - if someone is out without a mask - they are trespassing.
Just because the DA will decline to prosecute doesn't make it completely legal. Clubs won't be free to operate like a brothel because they could still lose their liquor license and possibly their business license for violations.
It also doesn't stop the police from citing you for it and thereby having your name show up in a police blotter column and spread around social media. No telling how long it will last either once social media activists start howling about needing to "protect the community from the sin of prostitution."
California is approaching the status of a failed state. A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly.
^ Oh it won’t just be the sin of prostitution. It will be considered “sex trafficking” And the legal definition of “sex trafficking” is very broad. Stuff like two female sex workers working together even.
But I think it’s likely going to be widespread legalized within a couple of decades or so. Whether anybody considers that a good or bad thing.
Theyre not making prostitution legal. Theyre making it safer for prostitutes to get help and turn jn traffickers. Tricks are going to be prosecuted more harshly etc.
Budget cuts are forcing g furloughs and layoffs in local departments across Southern California. The state and local governments will be going bankrupt again and looking for the Feds to bail them out. U til then this is the easiest step to reduce the strain on local law enforcement, at least until Biden and the democrats bail them out.
ICEE you dont know the difference between human trafficking and prostitution. If a women is being trafficked for sex she cant turn to law enforcement because she is being held against her will to perform sex acts.
In prostitution women have free will and will agree to have sex with you for money. Some times they will exploited the johns, thats why a john should not visit a prostitue when she "host".
The real problem here is that if you refuse to protect the law abiding citizens in their homes and businesses (the trespassing/public intoxication/disturbing the peace/criminal threats are things that frequently affect small businesses and people in their homes) it will get so bad that the citizens will start taking the law into their own hands. Whatever reductions in violence Gascon thinks he will achieve by telling police to essentially not bother arresting these people will be erased once the citizens quit calling the cops and start handling things on their own.
Is this that thing where its legal to sell sexual services but not to purchase or is it actually not going to be prosecuted at all? There's a huge difference.
The "legal to sell, illegal to buy" thing is de facto criminalizing male heterosrxuality. Yes there will be the usual suspects who will suddenly become literal after normally playing fast and loose with details and point out that technically thats not what that does. I'm talking practically and de facto, the "disparate impact" and what the real intent of the policy is. Those types of posters know this of course, most of them would be the first ones to talk about "disparate impact" in other contexts.
"Legal to sell, illegal to buy" is pretty useless for the customer.
BTW, I am all for throwing the books at pimps and others who leech off hookers, even if its not forced (the death penalty if its forced). BTW, I don't consider club owners "pimps" they are simply providing a physical location for consenting adult activity which is entirely different.
Soros has been trying to put as many of his adherents into local district attorney positions for several years now. We even had this in San Diego in 2018. No, its not a mere "conspiracy "theory"" as the media puts it, it was exposed and they had to admit it. The Soros candidate lost in San Diego but he's had success in many other places.
The simple fact is that the democratic base is pro crime and anti-work. This way the D.A. can support criminals and not do the job; which is the wet dream of the democratic base. Simple fact is that California is doomed. The cities there are shitholes, no different than shithole countries and the tax base is leaving California and moving to America. I have Mammoth; Squaw; and a few other California Mtns on my season pass, but would never ski there again.
100% agree. Many so called "progressive countries" are anti-heterosexual men. Sweden and the one's similar to it. Decrimizalization is the best path for everyone.
Anyone with an above average income who has lived in California knows about the Franchise Tax Board. Their methods for extorting income tax are akin to organized crime. For that reason alone, I’d never move back.
@misterorange, no, I don't think they will bother, in most cases. But if they get someone on other charges, and they have enough evidence of prostitution, you can bet they'll pile on.
Of course they'll pule on charges it makes a das job a lot easier. Pile on as many even if none stick. At least you make someone's life hell for a while. It acts as a deterrent
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Can't be prosecuted for trespassing ? So we can go on a tour of all the move stars homes in Beverly Hills without bothering to tell the movie stars. Maybe get a selfie or two. :-)
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The article doesn't say it's legal, it says the DA won't prosecute. For now. The DA still has until the statute of limitations to press charges.
Not even close to "Its[sic] legal..."
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@george - So they're gonna keep a list of all the offenders, and then maybe a year from now go back and prosecute them?
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With regard to the "prostitution" part of this, it would be one thing if they were going to allow clubs to operate like brothels, without fear of legal penalty. But they're squashing the clubs (and all small businesses) with their Covid rules. This simply means that drug addicted streetwalkers are free to offer sex in an alley or parked car while families with kids are all around.
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I hope PD83 reads this - as she is in Vegas. This might help her - if she can get a ride to LA.
They want to lock things down - due to covid - but trespassing and prostitution aren’t being prosecuted? Those would be easy ways to clear the streets - if someone is out without a mask - they are trespassing.
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I’m ok with the prostitution stand down, but LA is in trouble otherwise. Will the last to leave please turn the lights off?
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Just because the DA will decline to prosecute doesn't make it completely legal. Clubs won't be free to operate like a brothel because they could still lose their liquor license and possibly their business license for violations.
It also doesn't stop the police from citing you for it and thereby having your name show up in a police blotter column and spread around social media. No telling how long it will last either once social media activists start howling about needing to "protect the community from the sin of prostitution."
But at least it is a good first step.
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California is approaching the status of a failed state. A failed state is a political body that has disintegrated to a point where basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government no longer function properly.
What happens then ?
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^ Oh it won’t just be the sin of prostitution. It will be considered “sex trafficking” And the legal definition of “sex trafficking” is very broad. Stuff like two female sex workers working together even.
But I think it’s likely going to be widespread legalized within a couple of decades or so. Whether anybody considers that a good or bad thing.
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This is text book gentrification. HOLD, enjoy what your money can buy with two consenting adults. She has to eat, give her some bread.
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AOC. Lauren looks like a man
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Theyre not making prostitution legal. Theyre making it safer for prostitutes to get help and turn jn traffickers. Tricks are going to be prosecuted more harshly etc.
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Budget cuts are forcing g furloughs and layoffs in local departments across Southern California. The state and local governments will be going bankrupt again and looking for the Feds to bail them out. U til then this is the easiest step to reduce the strain on local law enforcement, at least until Biden and the democrats bail them out.
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ICEE you dont know the difference between human trafficking and prostitution. If a women is being trafficked for sex she cant turn to law enforcement because she is being held against her will to perform sex acts.
In prostitution women have free will and will agree to have sex with you for money. Some times they will exploited the johns, thats why a john should not visit a prostitue when she "host".
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I see it as a positive development at the same time California seems to be a hard place to live in due to its high taxes.
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I know more about it than you. Thats not how it works and not how the law works.
Solicitation and procurement are prosecuted more severely as a result. Prostitution is illicit labor hence its unconstitutionality
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Decline prosecution equals severe punishment, WTF
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The real problem here is that if you refuse to protect the law abiding citizens in their homes and businesses (the trespassing/public intoxication/disturbing the peace/criminal threats are things that frequently affect small businesses and people in their homes) it will get so bad that the citizens will start taking the law into their own hands. Whatever reductions in violence Gascon thinks he will achieve by telling police to essentially not bother arresting these people will be erased once the citizens quit calling the cops and start handling things on their own.
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Those who can still afford to live in LA are in for a banging time, lol.
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"it will get so bad that the citizens will start taking the law into their own hands."
The unconstitutional lock downs showed that this wont happen. Criminals will be criminals, they dont care if the criminal justice is prosecuting
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Is this that thing where its legal to sell sexual services but not to purchase or is it actually not going to be prosecuted at all? There's a huge difference.
The "legal to sell, illegal to buy" thing is de facto criminalizing male heterosrxuality. Yes there will be the usual suspects who will suddenly become literal after normally playing fast and loose with details and point out that technically thats not what that does. I'm talking practically and de facto, the "disparate impact" and what the real intent of the policy is. Those types of posters know this of course, most of them would be the first ones to talk about "disparate impact" in other contexts.
"Legal to sell, illegal to buy" is pretty useless for the customer.
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BTW, I am all for throwing the books at pimps and others who leech off hookers, even if its not forced (the death penalty if its forced). BTW, I don't consider club owners "pimps" they are simply providing a physical location for consenting adult activity which is entirely different.
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Soros has been trying to put as many of his adherents into local district attorney positions for several years now. We even had this in San Diego in 2018. No, its not a mere "conspiracy "theory"" as the media puts it, it was exposed and they had to admit it. The Soros candidate lost in San Diego but he's had success in many other places.
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Salty nutz reduced penalties for hookers not for tricks. Procurement and solicitation are different charges.
CD enough of the incel bs. Heterosexuality is fine. Work on yourself.
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Penalties for crimes not just prostitution already have sentencing guidelines. They cant make penalties more severe.
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They can prosecute said crimes more aggressively and give stiffer penalties etc.
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The simple fact is that the democratic base is pro crime and anti-work. This way the D.A. can support criminals and not do the job; which is the wet dream of the democratic base. Simple fact is that California is doomed. The cities there are shitholes, no different than shithole countries and the tax base is leaving California and moving to America. I have Mammoth; Squaw; and a few other California Mtns on my season pass, but would never ski there again.
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100% agree. Many so called "progressive countries" are anti-heterosexual men. Sweden and the one's similar to it. Decrimizalization is the best path for everyone.
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Anyone with an above average income who has lived in California knows about the Franchise Tax Board. Their methods for extorting income tax are akin to organized crime. For that reason alone, I’d never move back.
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CD but you want the gov to help you get laid.
Skibum and how is Massachusetts?
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"They can prosecute said crimes more aggressively and give stiffer penalties etc."
Youre right, the sentencing for solicting prostitution is now the death penalty or castration.
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@misterorange, no, I don't think they will bother, in most cases. But if they get someone on other charges, and they have enough evidence of prostitution, you can bet they'll pile on.
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Salty nutz. No need to act butthurt coz youre a trick
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Of course they'll pule on charges it makes a das job a lot easier. Pile on as many even if none stick. At least you make someone's life hell for a while. It acts as a deterrent
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Try gals off SA they more willing do bareback.
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