The worst is yet to come

Icey
I put your ATF on a winning team
I think its going to be a bad fall and winter. The economy will sink. Especially tourism and entertainment including strip clubs once the second wave of covid19 hits. As is labor day is gonna be responsible for a big spike before the second wave.

I didn't believe the virus was anything to worry about early on. But it's just getting worse.

Real unemployment is much worse. Remember they only count people filing claims. If youre under employed working 2 or more days you basically don't count. Under employment is going to be a huge problem.

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docsavage
4 years ago
Unemployment dropped according to the most recent report but a quarter of the new jobs were government jobs and many of those are census jobs that are temporary and won't be around long. Most of the rest of the new jobs were low wage service sector jobs. There were very few decent paying manufacturing or office jobs added. I've had strippers tell me a good portion of their income comes from guys with a yearly income of forty or fifty thousand dollars who come in and buy a few lap dances. They can't survive on just rich guys because there aren't enough of them so there needs to be plenty of male middle income workers for strip clubs to survive.
Icey
4 years ago
And a lot of people returned to their jobs working a few days a week. In some states working as little as 2 days disqualifies you from ui. And yeah its all underemployment now. And tge decimated tourism industry isn't getting better.

Lower unemployment stats are deceptive.

Rich guys are a small fraction of club patrons. Depending on location you have blue collar guys whonget paid daily coming in after work. Things like that.

Cashman1234
4 years ago
There is a second wave coming. When the weather turn cold and folks are indoors more, that will help the virus spread. We know more about the virus now, so hopefully folks will wear masks and keep their distance.

Clubs will not do well. However, the economy will be hit hard, but hopefully not as bad as the first round.
Papi_Chulo
4 years ago
It's the Democrats' fault - blue states are being kept locked down harder to affect Trump's reelection - similar to letting riots happen and then blaming it on Trump, they wanna keep the economy fucked and then blame it on Trump.
Warrior15
4 years ago
I don't think weather has any impact on this virus. In the spring, there were predictions that cases would go down when the temp went up. The exact opposite happened.
Warrior15
4 years ago
And Papi is right. The Doom and Gloom forecasts are coming from the Dems to push the economy down. I don't know what the stupid virus is going to do. All I know is my business is picking back up now and I am seeing Case numbers decline everywhere. Just look at the CDC websites.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker…

rickdugan
4 years ago
People aren't as afraid of the virus as they were in March/April. I just don't see most states locking back down, regardless of whether there is a resurgence or not.
mark94
4 years ago
Life involves risk. Working involves risk. Having a family involves risk. Driving a car involves risk. Meeting with friends involves risk.

What the government is doing is insane. Some governors/mayors have effectively said that they will prevent people from working or going about their lives as long as any risk of any harm exists outside the home.
skibum609
4 years ago
This summer was a top 5 lifetime for me. Thank you Covid.
Cashman1234
4 years ago
I hope cases don’t spike and cause a second wave in the fall and winter. The benefit of time has helped the scientific community to learn more about this virus. It was very different with the Spanish Flu around 1919. They may have recommended high doses of aspirin which hurt more than it helped.

My concern is that folks will be indoors more, and the virus can spread more easily indoors.

I understand what Warrior is saying, with regard to the virus spread during the warm weather. I don’t think weather effects the virus as much as being indoors allows it to spread.
mark94
4 years ago
This week there was a spectacular jobs report, an incredible diplomatic triumph, peace in Kenosha the moment the national guard arrived (proving the President’s point). The media ignored all of this.

Total new CoVid cases have dropped to a multi month low. Deaths are dropping. So, the media is focusing on the spread of CoVid on campuses.
WavvyCain
4 years ago
Egg head White boys were the ones saying “the sun and heat will kill the virus” 😂😂😂 y’all asses ain’t know shit, Republicans are useless.

But fr fall and winter is about to look ugly. They faking numbers, trying to push out a vaccine so trump can get re-elected , man it’s all bad. People still not even getting unemployment too, and don’t forget winter is robbing season😂 these republicans better come off them cars and fake Rollie’s cause people swiping them.
pistola
4 years ago
^This boy is so dumb he put quarters in his ears cause he wanted to jam to 50 Cent.
RandomMember
4 years ago
@Wavey wrote: "They faking numbers, trying to push out a vaccine so trump can get re-elected"
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There's at least some truth to that.

In the early stages of the pandemic, the models created by the epidemiologist were touted by the White House and the WSJ to show that the death rate would be no worse than our worst flu season of the last 10 years. Now that we've blown past that by a factor of three, there's right-wing tendency to claim that all models are bullshit and that the death rates are fake.

Examples from TUSCL:

(1) @Mark94's post regurgitated a QAnon conspiracy theory that only 6% of the reported deaths are due to Covid (upvoted by nearly everyone here).

(2) "My pastor's wife told me that MDs are under pressure to push fake death certificates"

(3) Because of Medicare, MDs have a financial incentive to fake death certs.

(4) I know someone in the healthcare so blah, blah, blah...

It's not just TUSCL; Republicans are far more likely than Dems to think the death rates are fabricated.

The polls and simulations are showing that Biden has about a 70% chance of winning. If so, things will get better. Even if Biden is losing it, he can bring people together, and hopefully, he'll surround himself with young, competent people.
winex
4 years ago
There is a saying in statistics - "All models are wrong, but some are useful."

The saying predates the pandemic. Saying that the initial death models of the novel corona virus weren't useful isn't surprising. After all, it was a new disease and far more was unknown that was known.
winex
4 years ago
Hey ChickenShit, why don't you tell us what you know about the disease. This should be amusing.
Tetradon
4 years ago
@random - There is truth to there being a financial incentive for a hospital to say that someone who died _with_ COVID actually died _of_ it. But we'll never have an apples to apples comparison between countries (North Korea, anyone?)

That said, I work with actual physicians, and they say it's going to be a rough winter. More time spent indoors, more recirculated air, dry and cold make our mucous membranes more prone to infection, and superinfections (COVID on top of flu/cold, for example).

I'm a Republican who thinks Trump bumbled this bad. I'm not going to defend him.
skibum609
4 years ago
The only way Biden could surround himself with competent young people would be to shit on every progressive and drive them underground. I see the groups that Covid is killing and I care not a bit for them. Go get everyone in the big cities Covid. Wipe them out.
mark94
4 years ago
“@Mark94's post regurgitated a QAnon conspiracy theory that only 6% of the reported deaths are due to Covid (upvoted by nearly everyone here).“

I said that only 6% of reported Covid deaths were EXCLUSIVELY the result of Covid. That remains a documented, confirmed fact.
WavvyCain
4 years ago
@winex u want me to explain how trump is trying to rush a vaccine by November 1st and how my retard egg head governor is on board with doing the same? Man I told u about being on my dock earlier. U like me huh?
WavvyCain
4 years ago
@randommember at least u have sense unlike these other dumb fucks on here. Great post. Go Biden !
WavvyCain
4 years ago
Ski bum is a racist pos with no heart. His kkklanclub on here disgust me. “I see the groups that Covid is killing and I care not a bit for them” if y’all follow this man lead after spewing bs then idk, I have no hope for this world at all. Since u hats black people so much, I
Hope one murders u and leaves u In your own blood old fuck 😂
datinman
4 years ago
"I said that only 6% of reported Covid deaths were EXCLUSIVELY the result of Covid. That remains a documented, confirmed fact."
No, that is still a gross misinterpretation of the data. Yes, 6% of Doctors/Coroners were lazy and just listed Covid on the death certificates. The rest did their job appropriately and listed the pathologies having Covid caused. ie. The patient got Covid which resulted in their developing pneumonia, blood clot, respiratory failure, sepsis, and/or renal failure and then they died. The only argument would be to exclude the people that had pre-existing DM2, Hypertension, CPOD, etc. and they don't add up to any where near 94%.
mark94
4 years ago
^ the vast majority of deaths are over the age of 71. Did CoVid cause that too ?

A high percent of CoVid deaths were already approaching the end. CoVid just accelerated the outcome.

On the other hand, thousands have died from suicide, drug overdose, missed cancer screenings, etc.

A recent study calculated that years lost due to the shutdown far exceed years saved from CoVid.
pistola
4 years ago
It should be totally obvious that this Breh is an alter ego of the shit4brainz VH/Trucidos/Yabba Jackoff. Same MO at the root of it, stump for Biden, argue with the same people. What a giant fucking homo.
skibum609
4 years ago
So sorry Breh, but none of my black clients are like you. They have jobs, families and don't molest toads, donkeys and crullers like you do.
datinman
4 years ago
If a 71 year old gets hit by a car, does he have less of a chance of surviving than a 20 year old? Yeah, probably, but was still the car that killed him. I am not trying to be argumentative. I don't deny the points you made in your follow-up. I hate the term "fake news" because it is so Orwellian, but the 6% "exclusively" spin is misleading at best.
WavvyCain
4 years ago
@skibum So u only like black people when u can profit off of them? How about I tell your clients the stuff you say on here?🤔
WavvyCain
4 years ago
@pistola I’m not a coon like u that has to hide. I don’t need to fake being 3 people. People from this site have actually met me idiot 😂
WavvyCain
4 years ago
Oh I have to be someone else because I don’t want a retard like trump running the country?😂
WavvyCain
4 years ago
#blacklivesmatter ✊🏿✊🏾 In your asses daily
pistola
4 years ago
Anybody that says the word coon immediately loses any credibility. Youre just a low class busta.
pistola
4 years ago
#AllLivesMatter 🖕🖕🏻🖕🏼🖕🏽🖕🏾🖕🏿
WavvyCain
4 years ago
😂😂😂 these boys mad. All lives matter doesn’t even look or sound right. Get that shit outta here, that’s like typing #bluelivesmatter. You’re a coon, keep tap dancing for these old white men u don’t know 🤡😂
Icey
4 years ago
Right wing extremist lies don't change the reality.

Underemployment unemployment the lack of well paying jobs coming back rising food prices the end of eviction moratoriums low unemployment benefits etc are going to create more chaos. Crime rates are already increasing.

An uprising is what the country needs to speed up change but unless yhe heroes bill passes the country is fucked
winex
4 years ago
@ChickenShit - if All Lives Matter doesn't sound right to you, it's probably because you are a racist.
winex
4 years ago
@IceyLoco - the reason you think that all jobs are low paying is because you are undereducated.

Complaining about reality won't change your reality.

Only you can take positive steps to improve your life.
WavvyCain
4 years ago
@icey exactly but these dudes that don’t go outside and are stuck in their bubble don’t see that. Crime has been increasing and when fall/winter comes its going to increase even more. Repubs had a bill they coulda easily passed but nah. Saw in the paper a report where 30 to 40 million people were to be evicted. This shit gonna be hell, the purge is coming!
WavvyCain
4 years ago
No @windex it’s either y’all support blm or just don’t say anything at all. Y’all always trynna compete with alm and blm. It’s no gang war, we only say that cause u and your buddies don’t think a black life matters, it does. It’s a reminder, not a war against groups. But fuck alm and blue lives. My cousin is a cop and no one in the family talks to him. Once a pig always a pig 🤷🏾‍♂️
winex
4 years ago
@ChickenShit - spoken like the racist little cowardly chicken shit that you are.

All Lives Matter
Icey
4 years ago
The guys on here are geeky sheltered white boys out of touch with reality. What they don't realize is its a domino effect. Eventually it will affect them too.

Evictions and people losing power for the winter will set shit off. Even in the redneck states.

Ectended unemployment benefits and expanding partial unemployment to cover the underemployed is needed.


pistola
4 years ago
Yeah defund the police, all that will do is increase black on black crime. And it’s all the polices fault smh. Great idea, Breh. Defund the police right in time for the crime season, let y’all hood rich bustas rob each other. I’m down with it. Let your grandma and ma get jacked. You MFers will beg to bring back the boys in blue.
winex
4 years ago
@IceyLoco - seriously man - I am not just messing with you. Getting an education will change your life. And with all of the grants and scholarships available, anyone can do it.

In fact, this is an area where minorities have an advantage over white people. There are quire a few scholarships and grants that are only available to minorities.

When you say that you want a level playing field, I agree. Not only is it legal to discriminate against me because of my race, their is no social stigma in doing so.
skibum609
4 years ago
Its time to start paying one half of the poor to kill the other half. It would solve climate change.
winex
4 years ago
@Skibum - plus you could generate a lot of revenue streaming it online.
Icey
4 years ago
Angry white male syndrome and racism are holding society back. But keeping us focused on inane bigots takes attention away from pressing economic problems.
WavvyCain
4 years ago
“ Angry white male syndrome and racism are holding society back“ this is the realest shit ever said on this site and the thread should be closed after it 🔥
WavvyCain
4 years ago
@skibum609 when u said poor I hope you were talking about your trailer trash cac hillbilly’s. I’ve seen more poor white people in America than black. 🤷🏾‍♂️
skibum609
4 years ago
Economic problems? My best two months ever due to Covid. Its amazing how winners win.....all the time. I have seen more poor white people in America than black; more white people get killed by the police than black too; more white people have it tough in America than black people too. They just don't whine like sniveling little bitches, accept the blame for their failures and try harder. George Floyd would be alive if he had acted like a white person, but nope he needed to be a cunt for 10 minutes before he finally shut the fuck up. Twat started the I can't breathe shit before the cops even told him what he had done. What a fucking tard.
Icey
4 years ago
Having such a myopic world view that you think a sinking shit isn't sinking coz youre still above water makes you a fucking retard.
skibum609
4 years ago
Lol Icey pussy. Not a goddamn thing you or any of your little faggot friends can do. 62+ years of a great fucking life. Amazing how being a hard worker instead of some little bitch with a flaccid penis breeds success. I don't give a fuck about you or anyone who thinks like you and if I can live great and fuck up your future then fuck yeah. Hope California burns to a cinder; same with Washington and Oregon. In the cities I hope your community keeps solving little girl problems by shooting each other. Say her name? OK. Dead fucking breonna Taylor; serves you right druggie.
WavvyCain
4 years ago
“I don't give a fuck about you or anyone who thinks like you and if I can live great and fuck up your future then fuck yeah”

😂😂 spoken like every retarded Trump dicksucker
winex
4 years ago
The only way someone can reasonably believe that the worst is yet to come is if they expect Joe Biden to win in November.
Icey
4 years ago
I can't believe how sheltered these Nazis are
SJGTHREATENSWOMEN
3 years ago
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