Biden says cops should shoot 'em in the leg!
misterorange
Kamala, you're FIRED!
Joe Biden: “Instead of standing there and teaching a cop, when there’s an unarmed person coming at them with a knife or something, you shoot them in the leg instead of in the heart is a very different thing. There’s a lot of different things that could change.”
I've never had training as a police officer, but I spent 8 years as an Infantry soldier in the US Army. I've also taken several NRA certified courses in home defense, use of force, etc. Not saying I'm an expert, but I've got some knowledge about neutralizing threats with firearms.
Okay, starting with the obvious. "...an unarmed person coming at them with a knife or something..." Well, let's just chalk that up as a typical Biden gaff. I suppose he meant a person not armed with a gun, but as usual his mouth moves a lot faster than his brain.
The real problem is with the whole concept of what Sleepy Joe is advocating, which is not a spur-of-the-moment "gaff" it's a stupid and problematic position on law enforcement tactics. First of all, even highly trained LE personnel are going to be shooting with less accuracy when under pressure and in a life threatening situation than when practicing marksmanship at the range. Aiming at a pair of moving legs vs a center mass torso shot, you're even more likely to miss. In fact, A LOT more likely to miss. And a missed shot endangers innocent bystanders. By "aiming for the legs" you are aiming downward, which means that when you miss, the bullet will most likely ricochet at an unpredictable angle. Cops, just like recreational target shooters and hunters, are trained to "know your target and what's beyond it." A wayward ricochet defeats that whole idea. Furthermore, even if you got lucky and hit him in the leg with one shot, and assuming that one shot was enough to knock him down because he might be on PCP or something where he wouldn't even feel it, the bullet is likely to penetrate the leg and continue on, again, endangering bystanders. A solid torso shot is unlikely to exit the body, especially if using hollow point bullets, and even if it does, its velocity will be greatly reduced.
Let's not forget, Biden is the same fucking idiot who, as Vice President, suggested that if you see potential home invaders on your property, you should take a double barreled shotgun out on your porch and fire a warning shot into the air. Forget about the fact that this is a felony almost EVERYWHERE including TEXAS, but if all you've got is a double barreled shotgun, you just wasted half your ammo!
I don't care whether you're a so-called "gun nut" or you worship at the alter of Mike Bloomberg, you've got to see that this guy is either a total moron, or else he's crazy like a fox and thinks YOU are the moron. How anyone could vote for this jerk-off is beyond me.
I've never had training as a police officer, but I spent 8 years as an Infantry soldier in the US Army. I've also taken several NRA certified courses in home defense, use of force, etc. Not saying I'm an expert, but I've got some knowledge about neutralizing threats with firearms.
Okay, starting with the obvious. "...an unarmed person coming at them with a knife or something..." Well, let's just chalk that up as a typical Biden gaff. I suppose he meant a person not armed with a gun, but as usual his mouth moves a lot faster than his brain.
The real problem is with the whole concept of what Sleepy Joe is advocating, which is not a spur-of-the-moment "gaff" it's a stupid and problematic position on law enforcement tactics. First of all, even highly trained LE personnel are going to be shooting with less accuracy when under pressure and in a life threatening situation than when practicing marksmanship at the range. Aiming at a pair of moving legs vs a center mass torso shot, you're even more likely to miss. In fact, A LOT more likely to miss. And a missed shot endangers innocent bystanders. By "aiming for the legs" you are aiming downward, which means that when you miss, the bullet will most likely ricochet at an unpredictable angle. Cops, just like recreational target shooters and hunters, are trained to "know your target and what's beyond it." A wayward ricochet defeats that whole idea. Furthermore, even if you got lucky and hit him in the leg with one shot, and assuming that one shot was enough to knock him down because he might be on PCP or something where he wouldn't even feel it, the bullet is likely to penetrate the leg and continue on, again, endangering bystanders. A solid torso shot is unlikely to exit the body, especially if using hollow point bullets, and even if it does, its velocity will be greatly reduced.
Let's not forget, Biden is the same fucking idiot who, as Vice President, suggested that if you see potential home invaders on your property, you should take a double barreled shotgun out on your porch and fire a warning shot into the air. Forget about the fact that this is a felony almost EVERYWHERE including TEXAS, but if all you've got is a double barreled shotgun, you just wasted half your ammo!
I don't care whether you're a so-called "gun nut" or you worship at the alter of Mike Bloomberg, you've got to see that this guy is either a total moron, or else he's crazy like a fox and thinks YOU are the moron. How anyone could vote for this jerk-off is beyond me.
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Anyone who has witnessed the lack of police presence these past few days in riot torn cities or saw the absolute police brutality suffered by George Floyd who is still ANTI-2A, who the fuck do you think is going to protect you? Your government? They will stand just as soon stand on your throat. Protect yourself and your family. Buy a gun. Take training, learn how to use it.
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e.g. if the guy is 20-feet away waiving a knife and not charging anyone, that is a situation when I'd say in-lieu of any other from of non-lethal way to disable him, then shooting him in a less lethal way may be the way to go - many a time I've seen the criminal give up once injured or tazed, and many times not - but shooting to kill should be the last resort not the first.
Complete opposite by me. There have actually been cops EVERYWHERE in the last several days in my town, and we only had protests downtown for two days. The mayor didn't even set a curfew tonight. I guess they're being proactive just in case.
I'd say it's more "shoot to stop the threat". This tv and movie stuff with guys being incapacitated and dropping instantly when shot isn't always what happens. There are countless instances of people continuing to be a major threat after being shot multiple times with well placed shots. In those cases you keep shooting.
Yeah - I never saw the Chips guys pull their weapons and they always solved the case in less than 60-minutes - true pros if you ask me
@Papi
Dahhh dah da-dant-naaaa.... Holy shit I loved CHiPs. The movie sucked though. Starsky & Hutch movie as least was entertaining and somewhat resembled the original series. Lol.
When an officer, or anyone else, is facing a violent threat they only have a split second to decide if they need to pull the trigger or not. There simply isn't time to add in a decision about whether they should shoot to wound or to kill. If the situation has escalated to the point of needing to shoot someone it has escalated to the point that you shoot to kill.
Having said that, pulling the trigger should ALWAYS be the LAST resort. An officer, or anyone else, should only shoot a person if the situation leaves them with no other choice. Firing a weapon should only be done when you are reasonably certain that it is the only way to prevent the subject from seriously injuring or killing yourself or someone else. Shooting someone under any other circumstances is murder.
Too many times people have been shot as a way to prevent a suspect from getting away or just because they have (or are believed to have) a weapon even if they aren't in eminent danger of using it.
If watch any of the countless social media videos of bodycam footage on police brutality sites, they never point out the fact that, yes the cop shot eight times, but bullet #7 was only the third one to hit him and the guy did not go down until all 8 shots were fired.
goldmongerATL - Remember when Captain Kirk fucked the green bitch? That was hot as hell. Lol.
There several documented examples of armed citizens, acting with restraint, using the threat of firearms to successfully protect their businesses. Any anti-2A argumeny is dead and buried after this week. With cops overwhelmed, mayors and govs impotent and unresponsive, the only protection we can truly count on is itself protected by the 2nd amendment.
1. The hiring process that is happening with any police, firemen, etc. The standards have been dropping because of law suits and what not. Yes the people who score the best on tests don't always get hired. It all has to do with the "quota" or making sure departments are "diversified". If you dont believe me just ask anyone who is in HR or hires people. They need to meet quotes or they get fined or worse.
2. Shooting people in the "leg".... People think anyone who shoots a firearm or is a police man are "snipers"... most of them can barely pass the shooting requirements. Plus like mentioned above when in a pressure situation accuracy goes down by almost everyone.
3. LAW SUITS.... if you shoot someone in the leg. they will SUE!!! even if it was a justified shooting...ie: guy shooting back. They will get a civil lawyer and win in a civil case because they will walk with a limp for the rest of their life. Good old tort laws in the USA.
Typical discrimination coming from Crazy Uncle Joe. WTF about paraplegics who don’t have any legs? Don’t they deserve to be shot like everyone else? Shit, they already suffer enough from Kaepernick openly mocking them by kneeling every chance he gets.
What do all those American cities have in common?
- They are run by Democrats, sometimes for generations
- They are unable to control mob violence
Having a knife is unarmed?