Stumbled into OTC

I have just about given up on attempting to take home a dancer to the hotel, I dont stay until closing time. And my hotels are rarely near the clubs. Ive tried.... just hasn’t worked except one time prior. Not I have succeeded again.

Went to a club I’ve only been to a few times before. It’s a pretty good club. Nude. Good dances, known for some extras in the vip rooms.
But I was just there for some sights and a few lappers this night and already made a trip to VIP for more service once.

I was preparing to leave . Had Uber pulled up ready to order even. Then this 20 yo fine spinner sits down to chat. It wasn’t the typical “wanna dance” bit. She’s only worked her for a week. We agreed on a 3 song set for $40 for a few dances.... just for fun.
During the dance we get to chatting. She’s new at this club and doesn’t like the extras in the back. I told her , i really dont either. Told her that my current sugar baby is actually arriving in 2 days, whom i had met on SA. She proceeds to tell me that she uses SA too on Occasion. We talk about what she typically requests and exchanged numbers for a dinner date tomorrow night.

A few details had me skeptical that she would show up at all. She has no car. Wants me to Uber her to the hotel. It’s about 40 minute drive across the city.

Second point of concern is our date is for the next night.... almost 24. Hours from then.

3rd point of concern.... she asked me to add a $20 tip to help cover her house fee since it had been a slow night.

Next morning I wake up to HER texting me about our date tonight. I’m now getting optimistic.

Details were discussed and negotiated. And she was on time for the Uber I sent her,

‘We had a nice dinner and then moved to the room. She provided excellent service. She had to leave by 6am to let her dogs out.... but allowed a second round of morning fun before leaving. It sounds like we can have a good future for more meet ups.

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  • rickdugan
    5 years ago
    ===> "A few details had me skeptical that she would show up at all. She has no car. Wants me to Uber her to the hotel. It’s about 40 minute drive across the city."

    In the future this should encourage you, not discourage you. A girl who doesn't even have a car is far more likely to need the cash than one who has her shit together enough to buy a car, pay for insurance, registration, inspections, gas, etc.,etc.

    ===> "Second point of concern is our date is for the next night.... almost 24. Hours from then."

    This is a more valid concern as these girls can be flighty, but so what? The worst that happens is nothing, which costs you nothing. There are far worse possible outcomes when dealing with strippers OTC.

    ===> "3rd point of concern.... she asked me to add a $20 tip to help cover her house fee since it had been a slow night."

    Assuming that you had paid her nothing to that point, it was definitely a hustle to earn something from the encounter. But $20 was a small price to pay to show good faith in advance of the next night meetup. Just don't let her hustle you for more serious cash, without earning it of course, and you should be fine.

    Glad you had fun!
  • 3131
    5 years ago
    Thanks for the pointers
  • Papi_Chulo
    5 years ago
    TUSCLer Subraman has posted several times how he finds dancers' ears perk-up when they hear you're on SA:

    + seems many dancers are also on SA and/or would like to land a Sugar Daddy themselves

    + perhaps she assumes if you're on SA that you are willing (and perhaps able) to spend and she would like that SD $$$ to go to her instead of some other SB
  • bullzeye
    5 years ago
    Hmmm, almost makes me want to sign up on SA!!!
  • BocaOnt2019
    5 years ago
    Pardon the dumb question but what is SA?
  • Papi_Chulo
    5 years ago
    ^ SA = SeekingArrangement.com - a Sugardaddy website (I think it now goes by Seeking.com but originally named as above until about 2 or so years ago)
  • san_jose_guy
    5 years ago
    Obviously if the girl did not drive a car to the club, that makes immediate OTC easier. Likely you can be bringing her home in the morning. :) :) :)

    SJG

    Pleaser ADORE-708LG Raspberry 7 Inch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XEwZF3Q…
  • 3131
    5 years ago
    Papi beat me to it.

    Looks like theres a discussion brewing in the verified forum..... might have to get myself verified to check it out
  • 3131
    5 years ago
    @sjg no way I'm going near her place. I'll pay for her Lyft or uber home, though.
  • Cashman1234
    5 years ago
    My only advice regarding otc is - don’t take SJG’s advice. You played it well with this girl. I’m glad you enjoyed the experience.
  • san_jose_guy
    5 years ago
    ^^^^^ I understand about not going to her place. Take her to your place. And easier if she did not drive a car to the club.

    SJG

    Pleaser 6" red
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDrrRGx2…
  • Subraman
    5 years ago
    Confirmed, the strippers love when I let it slip that I'm looking for a SB (I don't ever tell them I HAVE one, that doesn't do them any good). Many many strippers are either on SA, or have tried it at some point, or are thinking about it. Many of them will eventually drop off when they realize landing a rich SD takes time, patience, and work. But they love the idea of an SD
  • twentyfive
    5 years ago
    @Subraman I've done that a few times, works better than the white polyester suit, I call it the sugar substitute system
  • BocaOnt2019
    5 years ago
    Thanks Papi - much appreciated!
  • herbtcat
    5 years ago
    The SD route with a stripper can be wonderful, or it can be a fast track to ROB hell.

    In looking for a potential (POT) in a club or on the seeking site, careful vetting and patience is key. Generally, the more road wear on the stripper, the more she sees a POT SD as another form of OTC trick. There is nothing wrong with this! But it will affect how she prices her time and how she will treat you.

    Less experienced or less hardened strippers may be more inclined to really be looking for a sugar daddy; meaning someone who will be more than a bang and go customer. There are many posts here on the "sugar bowl", so read up if you are interested.

    Either way, as long as she's ok with the idea of having NSA sex and getting paid for it, the obvious benefit to her is, as noted above, she keeps all the "sugar." That means when she may charge $600 for ITC/VIP extras, she can ask maybe $250-$400 from you OTC. You pay less, she earns more. Win-win.

    Add to that the reduced risk of LE raids and a fella can have a lot of fun.

    BUT: beware the stripper who tries to play you for a chump by still asking for a high prices and/or expecting additional perks like cash in advance, presents, un-planned Uber rides, etc. while delaying the actual fulfillment of the deed.

    1. "Oh Daddy, I'd love to fuck your brains out, but I'm on my period this week! Can you just help me with a $100 now and I'll take care of you soooo good on Tuesday?" (She will not take care of you on Tuesday.)
    2. "I can't wait to see you tomorrow, Daddy. I just need $175 now to get my phone fixed so I can text you directions to my place tomorrow." (The only reason she will ever text you is to ask for more money while providing a lame excuse for not coming to see you.)
    3. "You need to prove you are serious! I've met too many guys who never come through. Give me a gift now so I know you are a gentlemen." (She will wash-rinse-repeat this ask saying she needs more time to get to know/trust you and you will only be fucked in the wallet.)

    I have been in the sugar bowl for about 11 years (before seeking). My conversion rate for strippers met in the club is low, maybe 10%. For strippers met on the site, about 25%, as the majority of strippers on the site are under the radar escorts. Nothing wrong with that, just handle that accordingly. To be fair, my conversion rate for non-strippers on the site is maybe 40%. But there are many factors that affect conversion besides her job - too may to list here.
  • 3131
    5 years ago
    40% seems high for sa site success. I'm impressed.
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