I just posted a review on Club Vogue in Columbia MO. Read it. Approve it. TUSCLers need to know. They treated me like SHIT!! Seriously, WHAT THE FUCK?!
I get why you are pissed. I would be too, although your level of anger seems a bit much to me. Hopefully you’ll be able to go back in a few months after it calms down.
I think the lesson this demonstrates is that you have to be very very careful ever having any involvement with a dancers tip money. It happens all the time that dancer tips end up someplace other than the strippers hands, and all of us Capn Sav da Hos feel compelled to make sure that they get it back. The problem with doing that is that strip clubs are full of assholes looking to cheat strippers, and in the dark sex charged environment sometimes things get misconstrued and it’s difficult to tell a garden variety horny old guy from the assholes... The prevalence of drugs and alcohol make the problem worse. As as result often it’s best to just stay out of it rather than trying to help.
In my opinion you’re lucky you didn’t end up getting your ass kicked. It was a nice gesture to make up for the tip money for the dancer, but tattling on the other customer was going too far and sticking your nose where it didn’t belong.
They targeted you because you were the one causing drama. Nobody wants drama ITC. Sure it was a crappy move for them to put $15 on stage and then take it back, but it's not your job to police other customers' tipping etiquette.
The reality is that, as you do this more, you'll see shit a lot worse than this. But even then, you'll get no thanks from club management for bringing more drama into the mix. They deal with strippers for a living, which means that their cups already overfloweth with ongoing drama. If you really want to take a stand, then have the balls to take it up directly with the guys pulling the shit - just be willing to cash any checks that your mouth writes. ;)
Based on what he wrote, I’ll take Nidan’s side here. All he did was tip the dancer $15 and rat out the guys who pulled money off the stage to the bouncer. IMO, that’s not a problem. He didn’t ask them to make an announcement or boot the guys from the club or otherwise start drama. Unless he’s leaving some stuff out, being asked to leave for taking an issue to a bouncer is overboard.
Yeah. Actually the initial bouncer thanked me and dealt with it professionally. It was the manager andvthe Second bouncer who were 5 minutes removed that were jerks. The “friends” of the employees makes perfect sense. I shall heed the advice of this group. I’m still only 10 months into this new venture. Lol.
Have reviewed them I’m the past. My stance had changed DRASTICALLY! April 25, 2019
See my previous review on layout, etc. this club WAS becoming my favorite club until tonight. The main bartender is fantastic, the girls are fantastic. The manager and bouncers are absolute SHIT ! I spent at least $400 having fun with everyone. When I was at the.stage tipping all the.beautiful dancers, there were 3 guys who stacked $15 on the stage for the dancer to have. On the last song, these guys took the money off the stage. In my opinion that is a no no. I compensated the dancer the $15 that the assholes stole. The dancer thanked me. I then went to the bar and informed the bouncer of the incident. He then went to the DJ and had the DJ give notice of the improper etiquette. Another bouncer and the MANAGER then came over to me and told me that I was an asshole and needed to leave. WTF!!!!!! I just helped one of their dancers and they gave me the riot act???? Seriously, read my previous reviews (nidan111) on this club. I retract everything that I said positive about this club other than the dancers. DO NOT GO TO CLUB VOGUE IN COLUMBIA MO! If you want to know where to go in Columbia MO, send me a PM. I loved this place. At this time, I will NEVER step foot in that club again! DONE. END. DO NOT GO TO THIS CLUB!!!!! For what it is worth, I pay for my VIP status on TUSCL.NET. Thus, I don’t need the FREE VIP for this review. I simply want EVERYONE who reads this to understand how SHITTY they will treat you. They can go fuck themselves. Seriously!!!
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jackob85 Kentucky
Kcmember85 Missouri
Review Comments Papi_Chulo Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
3 Hours Ago You shouldn't get involved with what other customers are doing, that's what the staff is for - if a dancer has an issue with a customer she can handle it herself letting the staff know - it really wasn't your place to do what you did - a customer is free to do what he feels with his $$$ - this so called etiquette is a guideline not some holy rule to not be broken - I think you overstepped your boundary as a custy and came across as a tattletale.
flagooner Everything written by this member should be consid 3 Hours Ago Sounds like a bit of White Knight syndrome. I understand seeing that and thinking WTF, but it warrants no more than a shaking of the head. Stay in your lane Bro.
rickdugan Verified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer 2 Hours Ago They targeted you because you were the one causing drama. Next time don't behave like a drama queen snitch.
Nidan111 Somewhere in MO. 2 Hours Ago Good points.
I think you did the right thing under normal circumstances. Once the money touches the stage rail, its the dancer's money....they basically ripped the dancer off.
The thing is, in management's mind, management isn't necessarily there for the dancers, they're there to make the club run smoothly. They don't necessarily care about stuff like that as long as they don't have to deal with it. Its a lot of why there is often so much tension between management and dancers.
Did they mistake you as the customer that took the money back or did they give you shit for going to the bouncer? I am curious what their justification was for asking you to leave. You didn't create a scene and they could have easily just ignored the whole thing.
Honestly, I really have no idea. It was very busy. Perhaps mistaken identity since they were 5 minutes removed from the initial bouncer communications. Again, all good points. I am still learning. What I have now solidified in my brain is... NO more white knight syndrome;let them police themselves. Have minimal to no interaction with other PLs that I do not know; i do not know them nor the club employees, thus stay under the radar. Valuable lessons learned. Thanks all.
In strip clubs it's kinda an unspoken rule that everyone minds their biz (hear no evil see no evil) - telling on another custy is a bit analogous to seeing a guy getting head in the club and then telling on him - I would only say/do something if I see a custy stealing $$$/etc from a dancer or vise-versa (which from what I read IMO was not the case in this situation).
I do find it odd that you were asked to leave - one can only assume as to why - could be:
- they saw you as a trouble-maker sticking your nose where it doesn't belong
- they confused you with the perpetrators
- the perpetrators were known to the club (regulars)
- other
Dancers and staff will often kiss custies' asses especially if they're good spenders, but most of the time they are not your friends nor necessarily on your side especially if you're not a regular (and even then).
Sometimes some custies IMO get a false sense of security in a strip club and forget they're in a different environment from a regular business establishment - IMO SCs are often filled with seedy people from staff to dancers to custies and if something goes down good chance you won't be dealing with choir boys.
I was with you up to and including the point where you compensated the dancer for the $15 lifted from the rail. That's a solid move, especially if you're looking to spend some time with that specific dancer.
After that... no. For the many reasons cited above.
I dont know that I ever pulled money back that touched the stage, but I've walked up to the stage, money in hand and stood there while the girl is talking to other guys, and her set ends. From my point if view she never earned that tip from me, so I go sit back down with the tip back in my pocket. If the guys put 15 up there and she ignored them, I could see a drunk version of me snatching my 15 back up once her set ends. If I toss it out to the middle of the stage, clearly that was for her no matter what. Money sitting right in front of you is your invitation for her to come over and say hi, and give you a little attention.
^^^^ there was definitely NO IGNORING. She played well for them. I think that is what got my goat so bad. But, as others have taught me on this thread, I should probably just keep my nose out of it. My lesson was learned. I can see why many dancers target the older guys. If that is how younger guys act in a SC and I were a dancer, I would not be treating them with much love at all. But, I am definitely not a dancer and as I have learned, I am also not their White Night nor their bouncer (who should be doing his job instead of flirting off to the side). It won’t happen again from this PL.
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I get why you are pissed. I would be too, although your level of anger seems a bit much to me. Hopefully you’ll be able to go back in a few months after it calms down.
I think the lesson this demonstrates is that you have to be very very careful ever having any involvement with a dancers tip money. It happens all the time that dancer tips end up someplace other than the strippers hands, and all of us Capn Sav da Hos feel compelled to make sure that they get it back. The problem with doing that is that strip clubs are full of assholes looking to cheat strippers, and in the dark sex charged environment sometimes things get misconstrued and it’s difficult to tell a garden variety horny old guy from the assholes... The prevalence of drugs and alcohol make the problem worse. As as result often it’s best to just stay out of it rather than trying to help.
The reality is that, as you do this more, you'll see shit a lot worse than this. But even then, you'll get no thanks from club management for bringing more drama into the mix. They deal with strippers for a living, which means that their cups already overfloweth with ongoing drama. If you really want to take a stand, then have the balls to take it up directly with the guys pulling the shit - just be willing to cash any checks that your mouth writes. ;)
Doing good deeds in a strip club is every bit as bone-headed as masturbating in church.
Having been guilty of both, I would know.
Just follow the link and read.
^ nidan can't help it..he is just too intense emotionally and aggressive sometimes ..lol...
Lol.
It sucks when you don’t immediately recognize them as such either.
Nidan111
Somewhere in MO.
Have reviewed them I’m the past. My stance had changed DRASTICALLY!
April 25, 2019
See my previous review on layout, etc. this club WAS becoming my favorite club until tonight. The main bartender is fantastic, the girls are fantastic. The manager and bouncers are absolute SHIT ! I spent at least $400 having fun with everyone. When I was at the.stage tipping all the.beautiful dancers, there were 3 guys who stacked $15 on the stage for the dancer to have. On the last song, these guys took the money off the stage. In my opinion that is a no no. I compensated the dancer the $15 that the assholes stole. The dancer thanked me. I then went to the bar and informed the bouncer of the incident. He then went to the DJ and had the DJ give notice of the improper etiquette. Another bouncer and the MANAGER then came over to me and told me that I was an asshole and needed to leave. WTF!!!!!! I just helped one of their dancers and they gave me the riot act???? Seriously, read my previous reviews (nidan111) on this club. I retract everything that I said positive about this club other than the dancers. DO NOT GO TO CLUB VOGUE IN COLUMBIA MO! If you want to know where to go in Columbia MO, send me a PM. I loved this place. At this time, I will NEVER step foot in that club again! DONE. END. DO NOT GO TO THIS CLUB!!!!! For what it is worth, I pay for my VIP status on TUSCL.NET. Thus, I don’t need the FREE VIP for this review. I simply want EVERYONE who reads this to understand how SHITTY they will treat you. They can go fuck themselves. Seriously!!!
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I think therefore I am.
jackob85
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Kcmember85
Missouri
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Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
3 Hours Ago
You shouldn't get involved with what other customers are doing, that's what the staff is for - if a dancer has an issue with a customer she can handle it herself letting the staff know - it really wasn't your place to do what you did - a customer is free to do what he feels with his $$$ - this so called etiquette is a guideline not some holy rule to not be broken - I think you overstepped your boundary as a custy and came across as a tattletale.
flagooner
Everything written by this member should be consid
3 Hours Ago
Sounds like a bit of White Knight syndrome. I understand seeing that and thinking WTF, but it warrants no more than a shaking of the head. Stay in your lane Bro.
rickdugan
Verified and Certifiable Super-Reviewer
2 Hours Ago
They targeted you because you were the one causing drama. Next time don't behave like a drama queen snitch.
Nidan111
Somewhere in MO.
2 Hours Ago
Good points.
The thing is, in management's mind, management isn't necessarily there for the dancers, they're there to make the club run smoothly. They don't necessarily care about stuff like that as long as they don't have to deal with it. Its a lot of why there is often so much tension between management and dancers.
NO more white knight syndrome;let them police themselves. Have minimal to no interaction with other PLs that I do not know; i do not know them nor the club employees, thus stay under the radar.
Valuable lessons learned. Thanks all.
I do find it odd that you were asked to leave - one can only assume as to why - could be:
- they saw you as a trouble-maker sticking your nose where it doesn't belong
- they confused you with the perpetrators
- the perpetrators were known to the club (regulars)
- other
Dancers and staff will often kiss custies' asses especially if they're good spenders, but most of the time they are not your friends nor necessarily on your side especially if you're not a regular (and even then).
If God forbid, I'm ever in MO, I will no way visit Club Vogue.
After that... no. For the many reasons cited above.
Live and learn.