Fighting city hall over the rights for strip clubs to exist.
shadowcat
Atlanta suburb
Just about every TUSCL member and the general public seem to like going to strip clubs. They are mainstream. They are in our music, TV and movies. They make the news quite often but mostly in a negative way. Cities and other governmental agencies seem to be constantly trying to put them out of business.
But nobody wants to stand up for them. Most of us try to hide the fact that we go to them. Even though they are main stream everyone doesn't want to publicly acknowledge that we want them and go to them. Most of us are afraid of what others will think.
So how can we openly support them and keep government from shutting them down? Can they exist under socialism? Food for thought.
But nobody wants to stand up for them. Most of us try to hide the fact that we go to them. Even though they are main stream everyone doesn't want to publicly acknowledge that we want them and go to them. Most of us are afraid of what others will think.
So how can we openly support them and keep government from shutting them down? Can they exist under socialism? Food for thought.
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when the economy is bad, the recession proof strip club or bar is relied on by the city for revenue.
one of the best examples of this is the forest park GA city council. they agreed to issue an additional license to GSE for Pink Pony South (because the Crazy Horse Saloon had been there for 18 years with no problems).
After about a year, the city council passed an ordinance outlawing nude dancing and alcohol. both clubs suffered financially and eventually closed. when forest park realized that they were in heavy debt without that revenue, they offered the licenses again.
too little too late sometimes
It's similar to porn, millions of people watch it but it's still something most people feel they gotta do in secret.
That's what sc is saying, but why? Were our founders puritans? Well somewhat. If you look at our history, the French in search of religious freedom settled up near Jacksonville in the 1500's. And we have the pilgrims, both religious groups. Doesn't seem they came for land rather freedom , and that included religion.
That said, I believe the resistance to strip clubs and such is just in out heritage. Will it change? Not in the rest of my lifetime! BTW, I hit 70 just a week ago on Friday. :)
Here's the thing: overall glorified go go dancers who get naked on stage are pretty well protected by the first amendment. But we all know that's not how dancers make bank.
Depending on how far Kamala Harris makes it in the Democratic primary, sex work may become an issue, as her treatment and aggressive prosecution of sex workers as a DA is not popular at all with the far left, who support sex workers rights.
As fir the op, in my area many towns are constantly trying to shut down scs and are usually successful after violent episodes. But a club can go many years without any episodes and still be fighting the municipslity for survival. I think it mostly comes down to “Bad optics”. A sc in town will lead to bad pr, potential incidents and lower property values. Nobody in nj is crying about the religious aspect, its all about the benjis (or potential lack of due to hosting a titty bar) - a fact the city councils and strippers should drink to.
An interesting statistic would be to see whether there really is more violent episodes at scs compared to regular bars. Every barfight and most streetfights ive been in happened at or outside a regular bar, not an sc.
There is no way I am going to risk embarrassing my brother the minster or my brother the local politician or risk having one of my clients tell me I am no longer welcome to bid on jobs because some idiot strip club manager can't get his girls to use a hotel
"An interesting statistic would …" one of the strip clubs in NJ introduce some studies at trial that showed strip clubs in general have fewer incidents. The problem is the incidents are more newsworthy because they occur in a strip club. Fewer but more publicized incidents hurt property values more than more unpublicized incidents.
It's funny I have more clear memories of HS music than college. Internet culture wasn't as far along then and I guess I was more focused on classes and getting laid than music?
I blame the people on both sides that think they are the elite and think they know what is good for everyone. But they promise free shit to people and the people are dumb enough to think it's really going to be free. Free healthcare for all.....because who want's people dying of illness because they can't afford insurance. But then, down the road, they tell you that you can't smoke, can't drink soda, can't eat fatty food, etc. etc. etc.
If the country had stuck to individual freedom and natural consequences, we would be fine. We could have our SCs, massage parlors, bordellos, churches of all kinds, gay marriage, polygamy, and anything else you wanted with just a few restrictions needed where age, danger, and infringement on the rights of others would exist. But nope....do gooders doing good for others have outlawed everything from alcohol to the oldest business in the world at one point or another.
This might be a generational thing because everyone I know is very open about watching porn. I think I met one person who claimed to not watch porn and everybody accused her of lying.