Nichole, unfortunately a lot of women show deference to Toxic Masculinity. They seem to expect it, and I have heard them admiring it. I have heard this from dancers in strip clubs.
No, I do not go along with it, and I try not to deploy it.
But sometimes in the context of say a marriage, it does come down to either leading, or getting walked on and seeing idiotic and irresponsible things done. Some women support only a kind of feminism which amounts to destroying the home life, rather than taking on outside and real threats.
My wife used emotional terrorism to try and rule. I never submitted to this. But, until I initiated divorce, I had no real way of redressing and containing it either.
But my solution would be rather to outlaw marriage, than to be promoting Toxic Masculinity.
^^^^^^ I say that there is really no such traditional family, there is just an economic and religiously inspired system, and it exploits and abuses children. Children are the exploited workers, in the middle-class family. They are used to give public identity and legitimacy to the adults.
Sometimes two married parents will turn into a permanent force against one of more of the children. Though this usually is when middle-class thinking rules, and when the only reason they ever had children was to win social approval. The middle-class does indeed live in Bad Faith.
When parents have divorced, or never were married, they have to rethink so many things. It can be better, in my opinion.
I believe that we are going to have to draw from the Israeli Kibbutz example, if we want children to be people instead of property.
Remember Control Data Systems, St. Paul Minnesota. They set up on site child care.
In the 1970's, the US Congress passed a bill for free universal child day care. But Richard Nixon vetoed it, saying that it would, "Sovietize the American Family".
^^^^^^^ and these had no similarity to the industrial ages middle-class.
The middle-class started by separating from working people, and by putting locks on doors. They made children into property, and into something you do to win approval.
Excellent book, and readily available on paper. Here is full text online.
And given that we do live in an industrial age, women do want freedom from domesticity. They want full citizenship. And it was to this ends that the Israeli Kibbutz was invented.
Mans is a stupid subservient species that lives to please us, try and impress us any way they can. :) they pretend it is the other way around but idk most women arent desperate to impress a guy unless he got lots of moneys. Most women arent desperate for dick unless they are retarded and dunno how to shop for a dildo or use one. Guys are a whole other story.
If you don't fuck the girls bareback and cum inside them, then they cannot make the list of girls you've had sex with. I'm old so I keep my list on paper.
Please get over yourself DC. This is about keeping a list and the rules for that list. I don't and never did count sex with a condom; bareback if I didn't cum; blow jobs; titty fucks; hand jobs, anal sex etc. The list was for the specific purpose stated.
Ooops posted too quick. I'vce had sex with a condom before. I think I have used one probably close to 25 times. My generation was condom free; women used the pill; p[romiscuity was the rule and no one cared. Wife had cancer and isn't getting pregnant so thats another 29 years and when we swing with people over 50 as long as they cannot get pregnant I am diving in bareback. If I get a burger at Mickey d's I unwrap it before eating, so I unwrap me. Disclaimer: in a CR which I posted about a dancer tried to mount me bareback and nature's condom (loss of erection) saved me.
Guess I'll never have sex. I cant even jsve sex with a condom cuz I don't want to get pregnant .at some poijt youre gonna get preggo even with a condom I think
The central feature of the middle-class is the middle-class family. And what makes this distinct is that the middle-class lives in bad-faith. That is, the parents don't live up to their own values, don't even admit that they are creating values. It is something which adults try to hide behind.
The middle-class of the industrial age is probably the first large group which has had choice in how they live. But they don't want this, so they try to pretend that they have to do what they do because they are living in a pre-industrial traditional society.
Merriman grew up in Michigan and Washington state. Now he teaches at Yale. But he keeps his family in rural Southern France where they still use one room school houses. Those who go through such one room schools outperform those who go to the standard age segregated school by every conceivable measure.
Nichole, I don't really know where you are coming from, but I respect your concerns and your honesty. Women who don't want to get pregnant can fuck 30 guys per day nonstop, and they don't get pregnant. I have seen this taking place with my own eyes.
Consider this, contraception and abortion have always been with us, at least since the development of agriculture brought in settled living and cities, and the high culture paganism and the cultivated eroticism of its temples.
But all 3 Abrahamic Faiths are committed to destroying this. They want sex to be for procreation only.
In the Bible there is not even one account of even animal miscarriage. It is the most pronatalist book ever written. It is that Caldean Birth Cult, making babies for sacrifice.
And today we do the same thing. They only reason churches hold services and give sermons is to make more babies to be sacrificed on the altar of pedagogy and the middle class family.
In the Victorian Era, unwanted pregnancy was dealt with via herbal remedies for "delayed menses"
Just boil in water, swallow.
Like RU-486? Well not quite. For RU-486 they give a pregnancy test.
That is the difference, no test.
Women get what they want, but this is about becoming conscious.
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Shout out to the men who know what masculinity is really all about.
No, I do not go along with it, and I try not to deploy it.
But sometimes in the context of say a marriage, it does come down to either leading, or getting walked on and seeing idiotic and irresponsible things done. Some women support only a kind of feminism which amounts to destroying the home life, rather than taking on outside and real threats.
My wife used emotional terrorism to try and rule. I never submitted to this. But, until I initiated divorce, I had no real way of redressing and containing it either.
But my solution would be rather to outlaw marriage, than to be promoting Toxic Masculinity.
SJG
Jon Hassel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQcOR91C…
SJG
And if a guy is fucking a lot of girls....unless he's a serial rapist they're willing participants.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/046509…
https://www.amazon.com/Anti-Social-Famil…
SJG
Richard Smoley: The Future of Esoteric Christianity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moOjGiJC…
No different from the sharp stones and hot coals which Nietzsche writes about, how primitive societies initiate adolescents.
SJG
But its not much of a reality in the west today.
Sex has always been a game no matter how you look at it.
When parents have divorced, or never were married, they have to rethink so many things. It can be better, in my opinion.
I believe that we are going to have to draw from the Israeli Kibbutz example, if we want children to be people instead of property.
Remember Control Data Systems, St. Paul Minnesota. They set up on site child care.
In the 1970's, the US Congress passed a bill for free universal child day care. But Richard Nixon vetoed it, saying that it would, "Sovietize the American Family".
SJG
Alvin Lee – The Bluest Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB6OlJqV…
The middle-class started by separating from working people, and by putting locks on doors. They made children into property, and into something you do to win approval.
Excellent book, and readily available on paper. Here is full text online.
http://faculty.humanities.uci.edu/poster…
And given that we do live in an industrial age, women do want freedom from domesticity. They want full citizenship. And it was to this ends that the Israeli Kibbutz was invented.
SJG
and
I used to keep a list til an ex burned it. It even had categories and ratings...
Again you make irrelevant comments
The middle-class of the industrial age is probably the first large group which has had choice in how they live. But they don't want this, so they try to pretend that they have to do what they do because they are living in a pre-industrial traditional society.
So the exploited workers are the children.
extremely good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEk1JAky…
Merriman grew up in Michigan and Washington state. Now he teaches at Yale. But he keeps his family in rural Southern France where they still use one room school houses. Those who go through such one room schools outperform those who go to the standard age segregated school by every conceivable measure.
Henry Monnier, cartoonist Merriman mentions.
https://medias.expertissim.com/media/cac…
Nichole, I don't really know where you are coming from, but I respect your concerns and your honesty. Women who don't want to get pregnant can fuck 30 guys per day nonstop, and they don't get pregnant. I have seen this taking place with my own eyes.
SJG
Contraception is most always more reliable than the people who use it. This is why it is hard to know how reliable it is.
And we have an Abstinence Industry which is well funded and committed to making people believe it is not reliable.
Really this is all a psychological thing. Here, a book, old now, but I highly recommend it. Gets in to the heads of activists on both sides.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/052005…
Consider this, contraception and abortion have always been with us, at least since the development of agriculture brought in settled living and cities, and the high culture paganism and the cultivated eroticism of its temples.
But all 3 Abrahamic Faiths are committed to destroying this. They want sex to be for procreation only.
In the Bible there is not even one account of even animal miscarriage. It is the most pronatalist book ever written. It is that Caldean Birth Cult, making babies for sacrifice.
And today we do the same thing. They only reason churches hold services and give sermons is to make more babies to be sacrificed on the altar of pedagogy and the middle class family.
In the Victorian Era, unwanted pregnancy was dealt with via herbal remedies for "delayed menses"
Just boil in water, swallow.
Like RU-486? Well not quite. For RU-486 they give a pregnancy test.
That is the difference, no test.
Women get what they want, but this is about becoming conscious.
SJG