Our two-party system has failed, just like our founders said it would

Says who?

I can’t stand Trump but I disagree with your statement CJ. The system is sound and elected the people’s choice (by electoral college.) I’d argue the strength of the system was proven by the 2018 elections as voters responded to what happens when one party controls legislative and exec branches. Yes, the swings are a bit of a neck breaker, but the congressional executive terms of office ensure that it’s temporary. The system isn’t broken.

Congressional AND executive terms...

People who don’t buy in to the propaganda of either side are stuck with a lesser of two evils choice. To vote for a candidate in any other party truly is throwing away their vote. The ruling parties don’t have to work on being the best they can be, only on making sure that their base hates the other party.

I actually agree with Jimmy Mcnutty, that the two party system is essentially doing what it was designed to do.

John Adams said:

“There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”

George Washington agreed, saying in his farewell presidential speech:

“The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty”

I agree. It is testament to how strong our country is to go on functioning with such a broken government.

Why are you quoting a 16 year old girl ?

@CJ check out what Thomas Jefferson said in the federalist papers it contradicts what you’re quoting, he stated the there would be a check on the balance of power as long as a two party system endured.

CJKent is right. If you look at American history, the two party system has never lasted in an intact manner. There was always a crisis and an impasse and the parties were forced to completely reinvent themselves to stay relevant. That came about with systemic changes... ie the civil war, great depression, civil rights movement, the carter doctrine, clintonian deregulation on steroids....

A two party system allows everyone to enjoy themselves. The losers can attend one party and get fucked up while the people with strong character can avoid them and go to a drug-free party.

“he stated the there would be a check on the balance of power as long as a two party system endured.”

Unfortunately, he neglected to foresee that the two parties would eventually become indistinguishable from one another except by the *focus* of their fascist leanings.

I'm sorry but the idea that the two parties are indistinguishable from each other is just idiotic. Its what people say when they have no valid argument. No different than conspiracy theorists. If Americans really felt the need for more parties we'd vote for them. The fact we don't proves we're either stupid, or we don't care. When people care enough things will change.

Skibum. Both parties are bound by the same laws, same rules, same constitution and garner funds the exact same way. By being bound to comply with the constitution they are bound to uphold the system. The fact that one gives you capitalistic plutocracy with a slave whip and the other a smile doesn't change the fact that both are tools of the capitalistic plutocracy. No go fuck a hooker, fat trick.

I participated in a political party for a while. Was a precinct lead, a member of the county executive committee, paid yearly dues and attended the state conventions as a voting delegate.

I grew disillusioned with it all, as I realized that participation was principally ineffective and pointless. The main thing the party really wanted was fat donations, and these largely ended up in the hands of preferred media and political consultants... to ineffectively squander on radio and TV ads the most people ignore, and direct mail that goes directly in the trash.

It is light version of joining Amway or Scientology. Spending your free time working with "true believers" and being squeezed for donations and purchases.

We have a two party system because of how we do our elections. In parliamentary countries they have more than two parties.

SJG

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