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How much do you budget per visit when going as a customer?

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IceyMr International coz all my bitches foreign

For me its $500.

But I only spend it on talent I like. Bitches have to earn it.

If I'm grooming a hoe up to $1,000

Most I'm willing to spend on a bitch is $2500 but thats with an expectation of high returns.

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I just get dances for fun. If I'm serious I tip them then offer to pay the house fee and ask if they wanna go smoke and get something to eat. That usually ends up in amazing conversation and sex. Your clubs sound pretty cheap though I wish we had those prices

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Id bring about 300-500 per visit depending on who i like i would buy alcohol to loosen them up a bit before getting any LD from someone i like then discuss vip and go from there. Usually works out well but if i dont see anyone that interest me within n hour or so id hang with the bartender chicks a bit before leaving. Their good people to converse with on those type of nights

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Yeah, sometimes I just go to drink and talk to the manager or bartender, catch up on gossip and drama. I know some clubs so dead no one goes on stage and the dancers just play with their phones, but the drinks are cheap.... And a few others where the chicks aren't my type at all but I just treat them like regular bars.

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Dont like walking in without at least a G. Dont like spending more than $300. The extra scratch is just in case, I dont want to miss out on any opportunities that may arise and pass because I'm low in funds.

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@ DC, it is. I rarely spend that if ever. Just dont wanna miss out. A club was shutting down and the last day I took my 2 favs who were friends at the same time to the VIP. It was expensive but a good time. Just like to have the extra. Plus I like to pay for gas in cash so always carry some, gas store pumps are too easy to rob from.

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You can get a hooker for a lot less if you leave the club out of it....

DC. the clubs where you're at are pretty cheap....

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I think a lot of times they work for someone or at least in tandem with another girl. For safety reasons.

I guess it depends on the location. In LA Reno SD and Vegas, from the girls i know, they'll charge a booking fee on top of whatever the client is to pay. Making it pretty expensive when the booking fee is between $500 and $700. Although thats for quality hoes with representation.

If I were to look for a hooker, I'd check out IG "models" in my area or try hotel or touristy bars... A lot of times, hoes working clubs will leave work early and hang out there or even before work trolling for tricks. I've even seen girls I know are strippers walking the street. So you never know, they'll definitely be cheaper there than at a club.

I think as long as you stay away from strung out hoes, the overall quality isn't that different if you go for younger hoes.

Have you thought of propositioning girls at your school? If you're in a dorm, should be easy... When I was in high school, there were girls who did that

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Post an ad in your school newspaper or on campus. Make a FB page and share it in your town...

Not just Vegas, Reno, LA... its not hard in any city I think. That girl sounds convenient though... you know she cant be the only one in her sorority doing it

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Just make a new email address and a burner number for contact info. Or go on the university radio station. I was on one once and we had groupies show up... Its not hard when you put your mind to it.

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"If I'm grooming a hoe up to $1,000"

That is a very high number, for our south bay zero mileage clubs.

But in San Francisco, where there isn't necessarily any mileage limit, but it is rigged to suck as much money out of a guy as possible, $1000 could be spent very easily.

Very hard to argue that it could ever be worth it, unless you are going to be seeing the girl outside.

San Francisco needs different kinds of clubs, more like Pink Diamonds, which started out as more of a hooker bar, and in a heavy street hooker area.

But also, that's our IceyLoco, not a Professional Pimp, not even an Amateur Pimp. He's a Recreational Pimp.

:) :) :)

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I can get what I want for $120

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@SJG, "recreational pimp"....I like that! But you'd be surprised at how easy it is to get them to confide in you and manage them... The first time I ever did it, it was unintentional. I was in my late teens and had friends working in the clubs. The girls would start asking me advice on everything. Rely on me to make them feel good and keep them thinking straight. Next thing I knew I was getting money from them. Same with dating strippers.... they start relying on you for everything and give you money...

$1000 is really easy to spend in SF, LA, Vegas or even Reno. But more than enough to portray the right image. They have to see money to know they can make money.

Even at a cheaper club.... you're looking at $0 up to $35 for a cover charge. $20 per drink... That's potentially $50 just as soon as you walk in.
Out of curiosity I went to a black club.... $30 cover charge, $30 drinks, 2 drink minimum... out a hundred bucks basically before even getting a single dance.

With clubs like Spearmint Rhino that get real busy, your best bet is just getting bottle service. You can get a hook up for under $300 sometimes but not by much, so $300 for a table, transportation, VIP treatment and a bottle of booze and mixers...again, just walking in the door. Then spending on top of that...

If I just go to relax, I can easily have a great time at a dive club or Latino club for under $100.

If I'm trying to pick a girl up It'll cost a couple of drinks and I do offer to pay the house fee and the fine to not go on stage and for leaving early if she wants to leave the club with me. A lot of times I don't pay that... if its late enough they'll just hook me up with free drinks and will leave an hour or two early.

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^^^^^ And of course a Recreational Pimp knows how to get it so the girls are buying him things and giving him money, cause they want to make him look good and feel good. And because they do this to compete with the other girls.

:) :) :)

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Yeah, basically its all about the illusion of making it. Even if neither career is really as lucrative as some might think. You keep her looking good and take care of the voids in her life and she does double for you. And yeah when you're out with a girl you have like that, she definitely tries to outdo other girls and show you're hers.

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^^^^^^^ I'm hoping to learn how to do it that way myself.

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I think the best way to go about it is to fall into it naturally. If she respects you enough and that's the lifestyle she's open to, it just happens. The best way to start is to fill the voids these women have...complete her as a person.

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san_jose_guy

Yes, they are real people, and they face emotional challenges over what they do.

Guys on this board have for the most part refused to believe that dancers often really like me, way beyond how they feel about most customers.

SJG

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Icey

That's because they personally can't connect with them so they think no one else can either...

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Its because at core these guys have adopted a Republican-Libertarian world view. So they can't even accept themselves, let along anyone else.

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