I’m not sure why. I could also see the club getting extra cash by bumping dancers towards the front of the list if they tip more.
But would the dancers have a phone app to keep track of who is electronically indicating they want to be approached? Or would it be up to a club staff member to find it and go to the dancer?
Short answer: to me, I don't see what problem this kind of thing would solve; in fact, in theory it could degrade the experience for some types of PLs.
As someone who leverages the fact that he's a known regular, so a stripper will sit with him for hours based on her perceived risk of losing both me and not getting any dances from anyone else, I'm not sure a club like this would give me the experience I'm looking for. In addition, even when I'm not with a CF and am on the hunt for a girl, I'm guessing that there will be some norms developed around "if you call me through the app, at minimum I expect a tip", whereas I'd prefer to not be obligated to tip during the initial interview of a new girl.
On the other hand, something like this might work perfectly for someone like chess, for whom attractive dancers are mostly fungible and whose preferred experience is getting his hands on a number of them per night.
So -- and this is just a guess -- such a club might attract the variety guys who just dance with anyone hot, but non-whale regular types might not get the experience they want, and even variety guys for whom the strippers aren't fungible. It's in my best interest that the stripper not know 4 other guys have hit the button for her; granted, even in that case, a stripper might choose to stay with a good regular anyway
@Subra
Exactly. The problem it solves is you. Or rather, regulars generally, who exploit the uncertainty inherent in the marketplace of the club to monopolize in-demand girls' time for less than it's really worth.
@nicespice can be like on a plane when people hit the stewardess button; they can see it on a screen in the back, for simplicity. Just a thought as I recently flew and ate at a restaurant with such capabilities.
As mentioned in op, it's just info, nothing mandatory, as opposed to the stewardess button. Though on certain airlines, it's also treated it as optional :-/
I could see something like this for escorts where girls are listed along with their pictures/contact info/etc. in a sort of offline Backpage. If law enforcement appears, the tablet can be discreetly picked up off the bar and tucked away underneath.
-->"Exactly. The problem it solves is you. Or rather, regulars generally, who exploit the uncertainty inherent in the marketplace of the club to monopolize in-demand girls' time for less than it's really worth."
I gotcha... I totally get why a variety guy would be frustrated. You do lose me with "girls' time for less than it's really worth" -- it makes perfect sense for them to give some extra time and/or YMMV to a regular customer, they themselves feel what I'm paying them is a better measure of their worth than that of a random customer ... at least with imperfect knowledge. With perfect knowledge via the e-menu, different calculation for sure.
Still, I think the real "problem" this solves is that of variety guys sometimes not getting what they want when they want it. Making variety guys happier at the expense of CFers may or may not make sense.. It (maybe) hoses CFers, and if it does, I presume they'll all go to a different club -- I know I would, unless my CF took never availed herself of any e-menu requests, in which case, why introduce the system at all. Today, when guys send the waitress over, my CF often just tells her "I'm busy with a customer" and stays with me; I suppose it's possible the e-menu wouldn't change things much.
Didn't one of the NJ guys say there was a club like this?
“@nicespice can be like on a plane when people hit the stewardess button; they can see it on a screen in the back, for simplicity. Just a thought as I recently flew and ate at a restaurant with such capabilities.”
That is an interesting idea. I have heard of a club in a midwestern state where dancers are not allowed to directly ask for dances (only the customer?) Freaking weird when I heard that, but I can see it being useful in that scenario.
Hmm...or I wonder if it could be like a Brazilian steakhouse. Where the red side of a coaster means “don’t approach me” to dances and the green side means “please do”
@justaguy - Sorry I have to agree with subraman on this one. I get it that you are annoyed when you want to drop into a strip club and immediately get time with the hottest girl who is sitting with a me. And yeah you would pay her more than me today. But I will pay her WAY more than you or anyone over the long term. So feel free to send a waitress, or maybe try throwing a ipad across the room... no matter what you want to do she is going to hang with me until I want to leave.
Sorry if that came off snarky. I legit feel your pain. It sucks sitting there waiting with money in your pocket.
Thanks for writing at least what I know I was thinking, @PaulDrake @Subraman. Also club owners aren't one to spend any extra on IT or tech than it absolutely necessary to run the business. Back to the first point, I always liked the whole "law of the jungle" and cash economy that the SC presents. It's fine the way it is.
Agree. This is basically a solution to the mostly non-problem that one particular customer segment sometimes gets a little frustrated, and to move that frustration to a different customer segment.
On the other hand, maybe it wouldn't make a difference at all. I mean, as already stated, in my club today, there might not be an e-menu, but it's not uncommon for the waitress or bouncer to come by and say "that guy over there is waiting for you", and for her to just say "I'm with a customer" and stay with me. Would she similarly ignore the e-menu? If so, then great -- I still get exactly the experience I want, and a frustrated waiting customer still is frustrated & waiting. Or maybe it'll work perfectly, and all CF-type regulars will just find a different place... maybe that's a win for the business, I dunno.
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But would the dancers have a phone app to keep track of who is electronically indicating they want to be approached? Or would it be up to a club staff member to find it and go to the dancer?
As someone who leverages the fact that he's a known regular, so a stripper will sit with him for hours based on her perceived risk of losing both me and not getting any dances from anyone else, I'm not sure a club like this would give me the experience I'm looking for. In addition, even when I'm not with a CF and am on the hunt for a girl, I'm guessing that there will be some norms developed around "if you call me through the app, at minimum I expect a tip", whereas I'd prefer to not be obligated to tip during the initial interview of a new girl.
On the other hand, something like this might work perfectly for someone like chess, for whom attractive dancers are mostly fungible and whose preferred experience is getting his hands on a number of them per night.
So -- and this is just a guess -- such a club might attract the variety guys who just dance with anyone hot, but non-whale regular types might not get the experience they want, and even variety guys for whom the strippers aren't fungible. It's in my best interest that the stripper not know 4 other guys have hit the button for her; granted, even in that case, a stripper might choose to stay with a good regular anyway
Exactly. The problem it solves is you. Or rather, regulars generally, who exploit the uncertainty inherent in the marketplace of the club to monopolize in-demand girls' time for less than it's really worth.
Strip club customers literally ruin everything in a club, chairs, carpet, cups, how in the world can they be trusted with a tablet??
Select the one you want to be waking up in the mornings with.
SJG
I gotcha... I totally get why a variety guy would be frustrated. You do lose me with "girls' time for less than it's really worth" -- it makes perfect sense for them to give some extra time and/or YMMV to a regular customer, they themselves feel what I'm paying them is a better measure of their worth than that of a random customer ... at least with imperfect knowledge. With perfect knowledge via the e-menu, different calculation for sure.
Still, I think the real "problem" this solves is that of variety guys sometimes not getting what they want when they want it. Making variety guys happier at the expense of CFers may or may not make sense.. It (maybe) hoses CFers, and if it does, I presume they'll all go to a different club -- I know I would, unless my CF took never availed herself of any e-menu requests, in which case, why introduce the system at all. Today, when guys send the waitress over, my CF often just tells her "I'm busy with a customer" and stays with me; I suppose it's possible the e-menu wouldn't change things much.
Didn't one of the NJ guys say there was a club like this?
That is an interesting idea. I have heard of a club in a midwestern state where dancers are not allowed to directly ask for dances (only the customer?) Freaking weird when I heard that, but I can see it being useful in that scenario.
Hmm...or I wonder if it could be like a Brazilian steakhouse. Where the red side of a coaster means “don’t approach me” to dances and the green side means “please do”
Sorry if that came off snarky. I legit feel your pain. It sucks sitting there waiting with money in your pocket.
On the other hand, maybe it wouldn't make a difference at all. I mean, as already stated, in my club today, there might not be an e-menu, but it's not uncommon for the waitress or bouncer to come by and say "that guy over there is waiting for you", and for her to just say "I'm with a customer" and stay with me. Would she similarly ignore the e-menu? If so, then great -- I still get exactly the experience I want, and a frustrated waiting customer still is frustrated & waiting. Or maybe it'll work perfectly, and all CF-type regulars will just find a different place... maybe that's a win for the business, I dunno.
You don't want to turn them into vending machines.
SJG
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