Front room makeout sessions
Countryman5434
I entered the dragon and was never the same
I am tired of san jose guy being ridiculed and mocked! He is a damn genius! I found a pretty latina bought her a drink and a front room makeout session commenced! I woke up next to her in my own bed and will continue to see her otc regularly. This is in Louisville ky. The impossible has happened
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Also you’re missing his point on front room make out sessions. He never would have paid for her drink. Also he’s a dickwad because he’s never even been to a strip club to begin with. He’s talked about Tijuana way longer than you, only lives a few hours away, and has yet to be there, just stares at photos of street hookers in Tijuana on the internet all day. He’s a fucking douche bag idiot.
TrapBaby304 - definite troll account
Sure, I've paid for air dances back when that was all I (or customers) could get. I'm not criticizing your hustle. But also I'd be less of a man if I wanted more but didn't push for it by trying to be a "nice guy" or somehow trying to get (unspoken) additional respect from the dancer (arms at my side). Because in my experience, that gets me less respect, not more from her.
So I don't mind the cat and mouse game of you trying to do the least for the most $$ and me trying to get more for my $$. That's just commerce. If you're Persian, you understand commerce from that POV.
Nothing personal. I am in no way offended by anything you write. Please continue.
I know there are street walkers who refuse to do anything bareback or to kiss tricks. I'm having a hard time believing dancers would have to resort to that. But like I said Im sure it varies by location and the local economy
Louisville KY !
Louisville KY !
Countryman !
Countryman !
Countryman !
I my observation and experience, it has a lot to do with girl wanting back room FS, parking lot FS, immediate OTC FS, or FS sessions at some proximal time.
Latinas are a plus, as are Blacks. But I've done my share of DFKing white girls in our strip clubs, even though strictly prohibited. And in AMPs with Asian girls. In AAMP's makeout sessions are standard, and I feel that you kind of have to have that for the second pop (MOSG).
Some of these are rouge girls who don't care what any other girls think. Sure, on stripper web they are angry about it. But that means though that they are seeing it, otherwise they would not be able to report on it. And anyone knows what race most of the angrys on Stripper Web have to be.
Countryman, we all should be proud of you!
Nicespice, my suggestion about feeding the girl front room money is based on a few simple facts
1. Lap dancing started with lap sitting and front room money.
2. Money up front shows good intentions, and it also shows respect.
3. I you want to be waking up in the mornings with her, then you won't need to come to the strip club very often, so do what it takes to get your intended results.
4. The girls who work in these places are working for money. If they don't get it in the front room, then have to push dances. Money up front can buy yourself time to get her shifted into GFE mode.
5. Money does not need to be buying anything specific. It can be a gimmick for feeling her up. It can be a gimmick for telling her you like to have in high heels, as such does cost money. And it can be a device for telling her that you 'want to take care of her', and this is a very open ended kind of an offer. It already is getting her away from the idea of selling sex.
6. In some of our harshest clip joints ( often run by a large operator ), the dance hustle is intense. Front room money is the best chance you have of getting the girl to lighten up. In the front room she can let you lead it, but almost impossible once a 'dance' has been bought.
Wallon, there actually are plenty of very credible accounts of front room and back room make out sessions, and that then going to TLN, in US clubs. Its just that most guys don't play it that way and haven't really thought the situation through. Maybe not until they have like Countryman, experienced the Paradise of Tijuana.
Shailynn, I have never said anything against engaging with sex workers and giving them money. Its just that I know it is far better if you can treat them like civilians from the very start. So sure, you'll be giving them money, but that does not have to mean that you are paying them for sex. If you want the girl, best to as quickly as possible start getting her shifted into accepting money on more open ended terms.
TrapBaby304,
Street workers treated the right way, they aren't going to be less full throttle GFE than any others. Its just that the sidewalk is not conducive to that, and that most guys just want Flesh Light service. If the guy presents himself differently and if he can shell out some money and if they both have some time and availability, they can be wearing out a mattress and getting as GFE as anyone else.
And not every woman that dances in a strip clubs looks at it as being about the most money for doing the least. Usually the most money means just giving the guy what ever he wants, and how he wants it. In the most FS oriented of AMPs, the girls are far more makeout session ready than in the only occasional FS AMPs.
And yes Countryman, in some places it does not matter if the club allows it or not. Our local clubs are very strict, but sometimes it happens. As I have seen, it just depends on how loose the club is, and on the girl. Usually DFKing seems to depend on immanent FS. Some girls want nothing more than to be bedded, so DFKing is their way of making this clear.
If it is not the actual owner, what does staff really care what the girls do?
Dominic77, it is your right to use strip clubs the way you want. You have your reasons, you only have to answer to yourself.
I do not think though that making out with a willing girl in the front room makes the guy an asshole. I don't think this lovely Latina one would have gone to bed with Countryman if she felt that way. Many of these girls really do want to be bedded. They are sick and tired of LDKing and of being treated like vending machines.
Sure, they can be aggressive and competitive, and jumping onto a guys lap and ramming their tongue into his mouth usually does eliminate any other competition right off. Okay, but in the UHM clubs, that kind of stuff is what most guys go there for. No reason to call these guys assholes.
Usually if one girl is seen doing it, other girls will follow.
TrapBaby, in some clubs the management is not really in a position to enforce any rules. Getting to dance there is no big privilege. So the real rule is that the management should always be looking the other way, if it wants the women to keep on showing up. Anytime sex workers are interviewed, what they always say is that they want the freedom to do things there way, from start to finish. They pick who and how they engage with. So this is why many select the street or standing in windows, as opposed to brothels.
Sounds like our Countryman is going to be waking up with is Louisville Latina regularly. We are all proud of you Countryman!
You excursion is the point of truth in what has now been a years long dialog.
Thanks,
SJG
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SJG
YES!
But not just two of us, all of us!
SJG
You took what you learned in TJ and brought it back home to KY. It was in how you approached and engaged with her, how you talked to her and what you talked to her about, and how you gave priority to free form front room fraternizing, over 'dances".
AWESOME!
Does this mean that you have suspended your second TJ trip?
SJG
san_jose_guy - commonly referred to as SJG this forum member is usually mocked or ignored, his comments should NOT be taken in any way as legitimate
TrapBaby304 - definite troll account
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And i will be not seeing her in the club but in my own bed! Not in tijuana but in louisville! All of this became possible because of the front room makeout session!
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Countryman !!!!!
He took what he learned in TJ, and he brought it home to Louisville.
Its because of how he approached and interacted with the girl, letting her see that he saw her as a GF.
Sure, most of the time women are getting financial support from men. No big deal. Its part of why they like men.
The age difference need not be such a big factor.
In most countries other than the US, smart guys, like Countryman, keep mistresses.
In the strip club it is expected that you start out with money, as this is how she pays her bills, and it shows respect and good intent. But beyond that, the arrangement can be more flexible.
Countryman, thanks for clarifying about your second TJ trip. Live up to expectations? See your favorite girls? Going to post about this.
I assume you will be seeing your Louisville girl regularly. Fantastic!
SJG
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And I am not the one who disturbed a zombie lying in the grave by mentioning his name and endorsing something he had posted. That was done by TFP:
https://tuscl.net/article.php?id=52202
And how this is not marital infidelity:
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7774…
Drew's entire outstanding thread about whether or not people go along with the idea of buying dances and extras:
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7846…
We were getting high mileage clubs in San Francisco. Jim and Artie launched lap sitting. Then after prevailing in a felony criminal trial, when all the legal risk was eliminated, the big brave soldiers of the Mafia came in. They built nice big VIP rooms in Market St. Cinema and New Century, and of course this meant FS.
But then when DOTCOM speculator money drove real estate prices into the stratosphere so that strip clubs couldn't function anymore, a new operator came in.
There is nothing new about the Clip Joint. It is just a reworking of the old confidence man game. So when you find yourself in one of these Clip Joints you will feel like you have been there before. We call this experience deja vu. It all depends on stopping front room intimacies, so it is only about "buying dances". And they are even trying to export this system to Tijuana.
Rather than compound the Clip Joint dynamics, Countryman went the other way and took what he had learned in Tijuana and brought it back to his hometown.
SJG
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We think SJG is a harassing asshole because he assumes all strippers are down for things that strippers are rarely if ever down for. FRMO is fine if she and the club are down for it. Just don't get pooped on by the pigs flying overhead.
Even at the DV Flag Ship Centerfolds, if you have money to spend to play a girl out some, she will usually start reversing herself and DFKing in the front room.
SJG