Why Are Detroit Clubs The Best?

Because you can get your diostick spit shined

Simply because the city allows it. Truth be told they have other priorities they dont need to be wasting money policing the clubs.

^ Not exactly true. In recent years raids have been common, and several clubs no longer have a private VIP as a result. But, this only affects the clubs located within the Detroit city limits. Clubs located in nearby suburbs have not been affected.

I don’t know all the details of how Detroit clubs got to be what we know them as today, but I have read comments on other forums that suggest that the 2008 recession had a lot to do with it.

Do you ever see it changing for the suburbs Ironman?

anything can change in our prudish society.

The cops and politicians aren’t gonna bribe themselves.

So basically if the wrong people get greedy and or cash strapped it will result in a climate change in regards to the service level provided?

I wonder what the likelihood of that happening is at some point.

I have been dealing with doozies of club experiences and hope to travel to Detroit regularly for work so I’m hoping to make it a haven and my “home club” zone.

Also thanks for all your help on going in without being blind Jack it’s much appreciated.

"Do you ever see it changing for the suburbs Ironman?"

I'll go ahead and answer this one. Ironman said almost exactly what I was going to say in response to statements above - especially in regards to clubs in the city limits only and the recession comments. He is correct - the 2008 recession brought in a surplus of extras friendly ladies needing to compensate for their jobs being lost, or their significant others facing unemployment. Supply and demand and girls selling services for almost nothing in the clubs created what Detroit vice and the City Council are now trying to stop.

Only the clubs within Detroit City itself have been affected.

*DETROIT VICE* is the *only* squad visiting these clubs. They have NO jurisdiction outside of the city, ergo the suburban clubs are unaffected and will remain so unless the managers & owners decide to change how business is dealt or Wayne County itself decides to step in and interfere.

I've danced in Detroit and the suburbs for just over six years now and even got a ticket in 2013 just after the vice squad was put back together and began raiding clubs.

Fun fact: Detroit didn't have the funding for vice starting around 2009/10 (somewhere in there), so there was no vice a while at all! Under Kilpatrick's joke of service as mayor, prostitution was on the low end of the city's concerns. That and not having a vice squad assisted in the explosion of what some of you call brothels (but were once gentlemen's clubs). I encourage you to to research Kilpatrick and how disasterous he was to the city's economics. Also, a woman (I think she was an escort? Tamara Greene, I think?) was murdered as a result of attending one pf his get togethers. I may be wrong about tje specifics of her murder though, but she basically witnessed things she shouldn't have.

Another fun fact: Detroit City's vice unit isn't a completely dedicated unit! During a raid (aka inspection), some officers where ski masks to conceal their identities. This is because they want to protect themselves. Many vice officers are pulled from other units of the police force in the city. Last December, my club was rated on a Tuesday night. It was a very nasty raid and I don't want to go into details about it, but many of the vice officers were recognized as officers from the narcotics unit (by dancers and staff). Patrol squad officers are also used in vice raids as well, and the ski masks help them hide their identity in case they may end up pulling you over one day or whatever.

Many vice officers who are pulled from other units are assumed to not be as educated with the ordinance as "regular" vice officers. I've witnessed them referring to the Detroit City Sexually Orientated Business Ordinance during raids because they weren't sure if somebody was actually violating a lot or not (seriously, not lying). This was especially so shortly after the ordinance was changed making it so dancers heads you have there gluteal folds (ass) fully covered. In the first wave of raids at my old club after the ordinance was amended, I remember three officers debating whether or not one of the other dancers could get away with what she was wearing on her behind. One of them brought up that the butt had to be at least 60% covered. Another brought up that no gluteal folds were supposed to be showing. The overall consensus of no gluteal fold showing one and that dancer ended up getting a ticket.

Anyway, I hope I helped an answering your question and providing you with unsolicited, yet educational advice and knowledge.

If you have any questions or would like me to post the link to the ordinance itself, please let me know.

I'm happy to answer any questions regarding what goes on within the city limits as I'm very passionate about the subjects of vice and the ordinance.

Fuck voice to text typos. Wtf. -_-

Waffle, very well said. I’d been clubbing well before the recession and while extras were available or otc, it was nothing like what happened once the recession killed the auto/real estate market in Detroit. The fact that cops and politicians were corrupt before during and after the recession so that’s really not a determining factor. Doesn’t hurt but not primary cause. Now the bar has been set. Customers expectations are set. Those clubs offering extras thrive, those that don’t struggle to survive.

Very insightful Waffle.

Ironically enough I know a dancer who will be traveling to dance at your club soon.

If she's new to there and she's hired, you should have her meet me. PM and let me know.n