I am sure some of that "sex buying" is people looking up ads when they hear about a website bust or something. With BP being in the news and CL as well. Dont you think curiosity takes over and people look. I know I did. Same thing will be said if TUSCL is in the news... or any of the the massage parlor websites or other hooker posting websites. People read about them and then look them up.... even on the company dime.
If you are dumb enough to use company IT assets to search for and buy pussy you deserve what you get. A Company becomes complicit in illegal activity if they do nothing, no different than if your warehouse guys were moving drugs through Company shipping. Private smartphones are ubiquitous so there is no resanable reason to use a Company IT asset.
upright.... agree 100%!
but how they call it a "huge" problem i beat money on it that it isn't. Maybe they should look at our elected officials more... LOL
This is nothing new, I remember the shock around my office about 8-9 years ago when one of our compliance investigators got fired for using craigslist to hire an escort from his office computer. I don't think anyone was shocked that he would hire a hooker, but everyone was shocked that he would be dumb enough to use his work computer to do it given the high level of security monitoring in place at our office.
So maybe every single person should just be under complete 24 hours a day surveillance, to make sure that they are not engaging in any unapproved of activites?
And be careful, even posting on TUSCL could get swept up in this surveillance.
And when you go to use the toilet, notice that the new rolls of toilet paper are made out of the old US Constitution which required probable showing probable cause before engaging in surveillance.
SJG
Yes, you would have to be a real dumbass to use your employer’s computers to buy pussy.
The one issue I have with the article is that they use the term “sex trafficking” to describe all situations where money is exchanged for sex. Then again, I guess we should no longer be surprised by that.
This totally sucks. I don't know anything about the people in that press conference video, but they are advocating the total trashing of privacy. Whether you believe that such sex business should continue to be criminalized or not, they want privacy trashed.
So, VPN, TOR, Proxy Servers? Does WhatsApp help here? Do Burner Phones Help? And we need to set up more privacy protection.
And of course, always best to work for yourself and on your own equipment.
SJG
s275..... i wonder how many of the stuff they are saying is "sex trafficking" could be guys going onto "cam model" sites and shit like that?
That is still "sex" for money. Granted you are the only one touching yourself.... but that could also be lumped into this about using company time to buy.
^^^^^ Well just the fact that they call any kind of escorting 'trafficking' shows that they have no idea what they are talking about. They are using the criminal law as justification for total surveillance and punishing people who have been judged guilty unless they can prove themselves innocent.
And they will go after people who post on TUSCL.
SJG
SJG, almost every employer has policies in place in regards to what is proper usage of company computers. It is not just things like porn, or escort sites that are off limits. A lot of employers consider using a company computer to do things like look at Facebook, or watch videos on YouTube off limits, and subject to discipline if caught. Some employers will even have a section in an employment agreement about computer use, and that you understand and consent to all discipline if caught for improper use of computers. Employers do inform employees that computer usage is being monitored. If an employee is informed that their computer usage is being monitored, and they sign an agreement consenting to it, then it is in the employee’s best interest to not do dumb shit while using the company’s computers.
To sum things up, an employee most likely signs an agreement, but then breaks that agreement by using the company’s computers to hire an escort. If caught, which is about 99% likely to happen at most companies, the employee deserves to suffer the consequences of their actions, which would most likely be termination.
Yes, to the above, that is how it is. But what these Boston people are doing now is trying to like this all to serious criminal human abuse. This is not right. And so we need to fight back in any ways which we can.
SJG
@SJG Using company equipment on paid time is theft, if you have permission to use a company vehicle as a take home drive you are getting a benefit, if you use that car incidentally on your way home to stop and buy a gallon of milk most companies will overlook it, if you use that same vehicle on a day off to run errands or to travel you will be disciplined, what makes you think a business can tolerate employees, using their computers for non business purposes. Get your own and use that don’t misapropriate business equipment for personal use.
That is all fine. But most of the time companies do not surveil people, nor do they accuse them of criminal or abusive conduct on the basis of scant evidence.
So we need to fight this.
SJG
^So basically this is why you are just a troll I gave you a logical answer to very real situations and instead of giving credit where credit is due you go back on the attack, and try to justify the unjustifiable SMH
^^^^ Knuckle head, how would you feel if you stopped to pick up your gallon of milk and someone turned around and said that you were committing a criminal act and seriously abusing other people, and then fired you?
There is no real evidence and no due process in these crack downs.
And who wants to work in places where they have to treat people that way?
SJG
^I’m the knucklehead that’s pretty obvious coming from you. Just proves you are just as dishonest as anyone, and your sense of entitlement is overwhelming.
More Knuckleheads!
So if they find you going to something which appears to be an escort site, they are going to assume that you are:
1. Buying sex
2. Supporting non-concensual and abusive sex trafficking.
But in fact they have not proven any of these, but this is how they are going to play it.
If the company has strict computer an internet policies okay, but these people are making it like you are a criminal and an abuser.
SJG
This is more smoke-and-mirrors - the "in thing" right-now is to portray *anyone* in the sex industry as a victim doing it against their will- and trying to portray that the women that do this is bc there are men that buy sex, as if these women don't have a choice but to sell their bodies bc men are willing to pay.
They make it sound as if men weren't able to use their work computer then they wouldn't buy sex and it would put a "big dent" w.r.t. trafficking - that doesn't pass the smell test - almost every company has *strict* rules against viewing any kinda sexual material on a work computer and it's been like that for 20-years.
This is basically smoke-and-mirrors bc "human trafficking" is the current sexy "tough on crime" mantra just like the "war on drugs" of the 80s & 90s but now that is not as "sexy" with so many states legalizing marijuana and so many people that think not making drugs illegal may be a better way to go.
How about my using a company asset, company vehicles, to travel to and from clubs and visiting and parking at said clubs on company time? Did it for 40+ years. Of course, most were before GPS in company cars, but by then, I had credibility with the higher ups. Not one issue, ever!
one is playing with fire and making oneself (and perhaps the family who depends upon this breadwinner) vulnerable by using company IT assets in this manner.
A son-in-law of the owner did this at my wife's old company (cheated on his wife, while 8-9 mos pregnant, when the pregnant wife was also the owner's daughter) with both another girl at the same company and also online (again, company controlled assets), some that me flirted with were underage, too. A lot of the convos went public, huge scandal for all involved. He never recovered from that financially nor career wise. I read some of it. His "game" was truly sad and cringe-worthy.
The saddest part was the young impressionable side chick actually thought she was "sleeping her way to the top" and they'd be together. Uh-huh. Um, sweetheart, he's the *IN--LAW*. If he divorces her, the money and company connections go away with his ex. She would have been better off going lesbo and sleeping with the owners daughter and cut out the middle man. She had it backwards. ;P
[view link] is blocked at my employer's corporate office as is [view link] and [view link] etc...I guess that's better than allowing the traffic and disciplining the employee.
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