Would a per visit rate still be in the 200 - 500 range? Do expectations still not matter? I saw a thing on the site that said that they would be cracking down. Has that effected things?
I have HEARD about some people getting banned for discussing actual rates/services through their messaging feature...so I'd leave that vague and take it offline if I were you.
DB: the whole beauty of SA and of OTC is that you don't discuss hours. Why not just stick with escorts if you're going to drive the conversation to hourly rates? Escorts typically have a clear, published hourly rate structure. My experience with both SA and OTC is that the meeting ends when it ends; you can quickly get her into the hotel and out in an hour or two, or you can hit dinner, go bar hopping, etc, and it will take however long she's having fun (or at least not bored to tears). Any girl giving you hourly rates on SA is, IME, invariably an escort just using SA as an alternative advertising medium
-->"I have HEARD about some people getting banned for discussing actual rates/services through their messaging feature...so I'd leave that vague and take it offline if I were you."
How did you hear this? Not doubting you, just wondering how this type of info gets around.
According to the girls, there have been lots and lots of guys on SA whose opening message is along the lines of "$250? Tonight?", I wonder if those are the types getting reported and banned. The non-escort SA girls have always despised those guys
It depends what you are looking for (and what she is as well).
Most of the time it is for an evening and I cut it short around 11:30 PM till Midnight. If someone is quoting you prices on the site and they are per hour you have a pro on your hands (and not a very smart one at that)
First meetings I should add you shouldn't expect physical contact--it happens but don't expect it.
I haven't been on very much, but like @Subra said, I don't see much difference post-FOSTA. It's pretty obvious that SA doesn't want anything to do with the escort/trafficking world and my guess is that SA will survive as a dating site.
The girl I've been seeing since Jan (I consider her my ATF) graduated, got a job out-of-state, and will be leaving soon. A previous student texted my yesterday about having more time now that school is out. So I'll be her summer job, I guess.
Aside from the presence of a few faces I recognize from back page, and an influx of 26 year old “college students,” I haven’t seen much change in SA itself.
spencer: ya, I use "pro" for a woman who has an escort-type model -- mere PPM is not enough for that; hell, since 100% of the women I've run into on SA are fine with PPM, if that were my only criteria, there would ONLY be pros on the site!
Although I did get a message from some GPS chick last week. Said her last arrangement was monthly allowance...of $15k per month! I couldn't stop laughing.
@Subra I’m not judging mind you but if they take money they are professionals, now there are differences between pros some are more business minded than others, and yes the coveted GFE, can be great with the right girl, but they are all professionals.
@GeorgeNanoDong: "influx of 26 year old “college students,”
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Such devastating sarcasm. A lot of TUSCLers complain that most SA girls are escorts -- but at the same time these are precisely the guys who really want escorts. I think it was @NanoDong who slept with an SA girl on the first date and had her pimp knock on the door.
If you're looking for college girls, then filter out all those without valid edu accounts. Will they meet for unpaid date? Can they talk intelligently about their major?
I've had some great experiences and there *is* a difference b/w a college student who's experimenting for the first time and an escort on TER who sees 5 guys per day.
twenty-five: ya, I agree, in the end all professionals, but I think that's a bit moot. For the sake of communication, we need a word that can convey "woman who is on an arrangement site but whose business model is more escort-like and professional even though we all know that everyone there is professional", and "pro" seems to be a good understandable shorthand :)
@RandomMember: Irony, not sarcasm. There's a difference. Learn it.
I have no problem with pros. As you point out, I've availed myself of their services before. In the case you mention, she was simply too hot (and too sexually freakish) to turn down.
26 is just about the limit that I'll still credit someone being a student, and if only a few were claiming it, I'd not mention it. When a significant percentage do, however, I'm somewhat skeptical.
Personally I'd like a way to do GFE type stuff with girls.But I mean don't we all. I was considering getting an actual SB but the 3k or so that all girls want is kind of steep.
500$ - 1000$ a month every once in a while is doable though.
I'm debating just continuing going to strup clubs. So some girls have given me their numbers at a couple of clubs but I didn't know what they wanted. I asked one what it would take to gf a girl their and she said it wasn't much. But we'll see.
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It actually was good policy to do so even before Sesta............
How did you hear this? Not doubting you, just wondering how this type of info gets around.
According to the girls, there have been lots and lots of guys on SA whose opening message is along the lines of "$250? Tonight?", I wonder if those are the types getting reported and banned. The non-escort SA girls have always despised those guys
Most of the time it is for an evening and I cut it short around 11:30 PM till Midnight. If someone is quoting you prices on the site and they are per hour you have a pro on your hands (and not a very smart one at that)
First meetings I should add you shouldn't expect physical contact--it happens but don't expect it.
The girl I've been seeing since Jan (I consider her my ATF) graduated, got a job out-of-state, and will be leaving soon. A previous student texted my yesterday about having more time now that school is out. So I'll be her summer job, I guess.
Although I did get a message from some GPS chick last week. Said her last arrangement was monthly allowance...of $15k per month! I couldn't stop laughing.
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Such devastating sarcasm. A lot of TUSCLers complain that most SA girls are escorts -- but at the same time these are precisely the guys who really want escorts. I think it was @NanoDong who slept with an SA girl on the first date and had her pimp knock on the door.
If you're looking for college girls, then filter out all those without valid edu accounts. Will they meet for unpaid date? Can they talk intelligently about their major?
I've had some great experiences and there *is* a difference b/w a college student who's experimenting for the first time and an escort on TER who sees 5 guys per day.
I have no problem with pros. As you point out, I've availed myself of their services before. In the case you mention, she was simply too hot (and too sexually freakish) to turn down.
26 is just about the limit that I'll still credit someone being a student, and if only a few were claiming it, I'd not mention it. When a significant percentage do, however, I'm somewhat skeptical.
Personally I'd like a way to do GFE type stuff with girls.But I mean don't we all. I was considering getting an actual SB but the 3k or so that all girls want is kind of steep.
500$ - 1000$ a month every once in a while is doable though.
I'm debating just continuing going to strup clubs. So some girls have given me their numbers at a couple of clubs but I didn't know what they wanted. I asked one what it would take to gf a girl their and she said it wasn't much. But we'll see.