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OT: Who Performs A**a**inations?

san_jose_guy
money was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
I ask this especially about the US, or at least in the industrialized nations, and in the 20th Century. But I also open it to other places and other times.

Are a**a**inations also te**o*ism? I think sometimes they are. But not all te**o*ism would be considered a**a**inations.

Lots of te**o*ism is very indiscriminate. A**a**ination is targeted at a known individual, not just someone in a uniform.

So is it done more by state actors, or by organized crime? Can you even draw a dividing line? With the CIA some have alleged that there is no line dividing it from the Mob.

They say that La Cosa Nostra uses violence only rarely. But they did kill Bugsy Segal, and they seem to have gotten rid of Jimmy Hoffa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Hoff…

How many more are there, and trying here to stay with real life, not books and movies?

So in WWII French Resistance was sometimes just killing people in German uniforms. But when it came to collaborators, these they did a**a**inate.

Did the IRA do a**a**inations

Many people now associate it with the CIA. And then today with its Seal Teams and unmanned drones many feel that the US government is the number 1 world te**o*ist.

Now people say that the Knights Templar were into piracy, and that could be a kind of politically motivated te**o*ism. And people say they were also involved in a**a**inations.

Skull and Crossbones
https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=5098…

But I still don't know that much about these things.

So this Mick McDonnell was an a**a**in for the Irish Independence Movement, and then he left and lived out the rest of his life in San Jose, where today he is buried. How many people like this are there? And what groups are involved in it.

http://www.metroactive.com/features/colu…

SJG

In Conversation: Robert Reich and Joseph Stiglitz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ope07cDd…

19 comments

  • ime
    7 years ago
    Go play in traffic Lloyd
  • Uprightcitizen
    7 years ago
    Idiot
  • san_jose_guy
    7 years ago
    ^^^^^^ Shit Head

    SJG
  • Uprightcitizen
    7 years ago
    Ok but I prefer asshole. Stop posting generalized rambling nonsensical postings about whatever pops in your distorted mind. Nobody cares here genius.
  • Call.Me.Ishmael
    7 years ago
    What an a**h*le.
  • ppwh
    7 years ago
    Why waste money on a**a**inations when you could be c***ing *n y**r p***ts?
  • twentyfive
    7 years ago
    double under marble baby anniversary sound star*

    anybody can string a bunch of unrelated words together but the clue is this is what SJG is and the key is the first letter of each unrelated word.
  • Cowboy12
    7 years ago
    I think its time to hit the "ignore" button again
  • san_jose_guy
    7 years ago
    Bunch of fuck heads here. No one is forcing you to read this, but yet you still post worthless negative meta.

    Oh well.

    People say Mossad is very good at assassinations. As I know they are going after te**o**ists or Nazis.

    Marcus Foster, Oakland's first black superintendent of public instruction was a**a**inated by the Symbionese Liberation Army in 1973, and using cyanide tipped bullets. But many see this SLA as false flag, and that the Foster killing and the Patty Hearst Kidnapping and the famous scene that the Hibernia Bank were all part of a psychological warfare campaign.

    Supposedly they killed Foster because he was going to make school kids were ID badges in order to increase school safety.

    I find this motivation flimsy. It seems more like it was just an act of te**o**ism, and not even really an a**a*ination. A state actor pretending to be radial leftists.

    Not surprising at all that this ended up in siege and a fire.

    And then in Italy we had the Red Brigades, and this too seemed to be false flag.

    A guy I knew who had spent decades in the British Army, starting in Northern Ireland, and serving in Kuwait, and then finishing up as a Drill Sergeant. He said that when the IRA took over a town they would a**a**inate all the protestant clergy.

    Stalin's KGB killed Leon Trotsky in Mexico in 1940
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trots…

    But the guy who did it, Spanish, served 20 years in a Mexican prison over it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram%C3%B3n…

    In 1938 the KGB had abducted Leon Theremin off of an NYC sidewalk.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%A9on_….

    Before Mexico's drug wars started, I had read that the Mexican Mafia is not like that Italian Mafia, in that the later is very disciplined and rarely resorts to violence. Whereas the Mexican is not disciplined and even in California it is very violent. One thing it certainly does well in Mexico is infiltrate LE at all levels.

    Al Capone and his people performed a**a**inations in the 1920's in Chicago. But this drew public outrage and made people rally to support LE. And it led to Capone's downfall. This was when they first started going after mobsters on tax evasion, if they couldn't get them on anything else..

    So all in all, I'm not seeing much a**a**ination, and most of it seems to be state actors.

    There is a Green Beret veteran, name escapes me. Says that he was offered by the CIA the assignment of killing the Doctor and Navy Capt. Pitzer. He had been in the autopsy room at Bethesda Naval Hospital 11/22/63, and he kept notes, especially about the throat wound.

    Pitzer did die in a suspicious way. The Special Forces man says that when he declined it, being on US soil, the CIA man went to another Special Forces man.

    There are like 22 people who were eye witness accounts to things which differed from the offical story, who died in suspicious ways, like single car collisions and multiple bullet suicides.

    This same Special Forces man claims that he was offered the assignment of killing Cambodian Crowned Prince Norodom Sihanouk.

    Supposedly J. Edgar Hoover had kept a special team of a**a**ins in Oaxaca Mexico. Some researchers believe that three such were in place in Dealey Plaza.

    And there is also the issue of the killing of Dallas police officer Jefferson Davis Tippit, some witnesses say it was not Oswald, and some researches believe that it was actually another of these Mexican professionals.

    The number of attempts on the life of French President Charles DeGaulle was huge. It is generally known that Day of Jackal was a commentary on JFK.

    So this is still not that many a**a**inations. Mostly state actors, renegade state agents, and agent provocateurs.

    Most of the people on this list I'd never heard of:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as…

    And then this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_as…

    And then Don Bolles, newspaper journalist, Phoenix AZ, killed in a most brutal way using a car bomb.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bolles

    https://web.archive.org/web/201312220523…

    People have served time over this, believed to connect to Kemper Marley, and also to that Hensley Liquor family which John McCain married into.

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/wh…

    Still, we run about 35 homicides a year in San Jose, and almost all of them are solved. They really don't look like a**a**sinations, just the random and desperate acts of people with little to lose.

    Recently a man checked into a cheap motel, second man arrives, third man arrives and shoots first in the stomach. They leave him for dead, but he lives. Now both of the other two men are in custody. To me this sounds like the narcotics deal which goes bad, not really a**a**sination.

    SJG

    Stanley Clarke Herbie Hancock & Chaka Khan Live
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  • san_jose_guy
    7 years ago
    Assassinated Letelier in Washington via the use of a car bomb, exiled Chilean Ambasador to the United States. By far one of the most ugly things which has ever happened on US soil, and with clear ties to CIA director Bush. Orlando Letelier

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Le…

    It does seem like most of this is done by state actors. And this makes sense. If the authorities want to bust someone, they just do it. They can rig it so that they get a conviction. They don't need to put on a fair trial if they don't want to.

    So it will be state actors. When it gets interesting is when there is some kind of a coup. Many see there as being Secret Team, a shadow government. It has origins going back at least as far as early efforts involving Herbert Hoover to over throw the Bolsheviks, so that he could get his $1 Billion 1912 worth of Russian timber and mining assets back. And it includes Richard Nixon bringing in Final Solution veterans from Eastern and Central Europe, to "offset the Jewish vote in the cities". And where this hour glass comes to a waist is in Dallas 11/22/63. Anyone could take a shot at a president. But only a successful coup would be able to cover it up for so long.

    SJG

    Edwyn Collins
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13D4z736…

    Black Keys
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaAf61w4…

    Miles Kane
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2qKjOZT…

    White Stripes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuRd1yqG…

    Jolene
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXlULkwh…

    Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit and Somebody To Love, American Bandstand, 1967
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKtJ0XTw…

    Please Don´t Let Me Be Misunderstood- The Animals
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHjKzr6t…

    Sarah Connor - Son Of Preacher Man
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkfyYoL…

    Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow - Amy Winehouse
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guanbnnz…

    judy henske - high flying bird - 1963 from HOOTENANNY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxC4HZNx…

    Jefferson Airplane
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsDdJWn5…
  • san_jose_guy
    7 years ago
    In the fiction of Andrew Vachss, his protagonist Burke sometimes does jobs for Mossad. Though they make it look narcotics related, they execute ped*ph*les.

    http://www.vachss.com/terminal/excerpt.h…

    SJG

    The End of Public Education, 12/27 show
    https://tunein.com/radio/KPFA---Against-…

    Edwyn Collins
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13D4z736…

    Black Keys
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaAf61w4…

    Miles Kane
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2qKjOZT…

    White Stripes
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuRd1yqG…

    Jolene
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXlULkwh…

    Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit and Somebody To Love, American Bandstand, 1967
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKtJ0XTw…

    Please Don´t Let Me Be Misunderstood- The Animals
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHjKzr6t…

    Sarah Connor - Son Of Preacher Man
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvkfyYoL…

    Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow - Amy Winehouse
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guanbnnz…

    judy henske - high flying bird - 1963 from HOOTENANNY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxC4HZNx…

    Jefferson Airplane
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsDdJWn5…

    Jefferson Airplane "The Other Side of this Life"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3JvyvgP…

    Jefferson Airplane - Eskimo Blue Day (1970)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kV6r0njk…

    Jefferson Airplane - Wooden Ships
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  • vincemichaels
    7 years ago
    See that guy in the Mustang across the street, SJG ??? That's the guy who will assassinate you.
  • san_jose_guy
    7 years ago
    Talking about James Earl Ray? Wasn't he sitting in a Mustang? But he was not really a lone nut, and probably not the real a**a**in. Ray had been sponsored to travel around the country, and the real killer was likely the Eggs and Sausage man, tied to Special Forces and hence the CIA.

    Here they show the Mustang:
    http://mlkmurder.blogspot.com/2013/07/th…

    But it shows how a**a**ination works in the US. Not many homicides are unsolved, except for these ones done by state actors.

    SJG
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    Karl Marx
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyrhoHtS…

    North Korea accidentally hit one of its own cities with a missile, report says:
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nort…
  • Hugh_G_Rection
    7 years ago
    Methinks SJG's 'organization' must be something along the lines of the Manson family. He could probably find what he wants (murder for hire from the looks of it) in the dot onion domains but hopefully he would contract someone who would just take his money and snuff him rather than carry out an execution for him- end story.

    Those who live by the sword, die by the sword...
  • san_jose_guy
    7 years ago
    If by onion you mean TOR ( The Onion Router ), the main routers are run by the intelligence community. So they do not give you anonymity, at least not from the authorities. Rather, they draw attention to you.

    I certainly would never be k*ll*ng someone for money.

    SJG
  • san_jose_guy
    7 years ago
    Knights Templar, A**a**ins?

    http://www.gnostictemplars.org/articles/…


    Templar Assasins
    Assassin's creed : the official movie novelization / written by Christie Golden ; based on the screenplay by Michael Lesslie and Adam Cooper & Bill Collage ; based on the Assassin's Creed game series.

    Templar Pirates
    Pirates and the lost Templar fleet : the secret naval war between the Knights Templar and the Vatican / by David Hatcher Childress. (2003)

    Secrets of the Knights Templar : the hidden history of the world's most powerful order / S.J. Hodge. (2013)

    Jacques de Molay
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_de…

    https://www.pdfdrive.net/the-templars-an…

    executed by King Philip IV of France in 1314

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Te…

    Secret societies of America's elite : from the Knights Templar to Skull and Bones / Steven Sora. (2003)
    NOTE: James Wasserman, Inner Traditions Press
    The Templars and the Assassins : the militia of Heaven / by James Wasserman ; including In praise of the new knighthood by Saint Bernard of Clairvaux, translated by Lisa Coffin. (2001)

    note: more James Wasserman
    Templar heresy : a story of gnostic illumination / James Wasserman with Keith Stump and Harvey Rochman. (2017)

    SJG
  • san_jose_guy
    7 years ago
    Encyclopedia of political assassinations / Nigel West (2017)

    https://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Poli…

    The Templar Pirates: The Secret Alliance to Build the New Jerusalem (2007)

    Pirates and the Lost Templar Fleet: The Secret Naval War Between the Knights Templar and the Vatican
    https://www.amazon.com/Pirates-Lost-Temp…

    SJG

    Jack Parsons: Space Exploration & the O.T.O.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYCfo_YS…

    I am opposed to everything about Scientology
    Bare-Faced Messiah : A Biography of L. Ron Hubbard Hardcover – 1988
    https://www.amazon.com/Bare-Faced-Messia…

    Bare-faced messiah : the true story of L. Ron Hubbard / Russell Miller (1987)
  • san_jose_guy
    6 years ago
    The Nizaris (Arabic: النزاريون‎ al-Nizāriyyūn) are the largest branch of the Ismaili Shi'i Muslims, the second-largest branch of Shia Islam (the largest being the Twelver).[1] Nizari teachings emphasize human reasoning (ijtihad, the individual use of one's reason when using both the Quran and Hadith as resources), pluralism (the acceptance of racial, ethnic, cultural and intra-religious differences) and social justice.[citation needed] Aga Khan IV is their religious Imam and leader.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizari

    Prince Shah Karim Al Hussaini, Aga Khan IV, KBE, CC (Arabic: شاه كريم الحسيني، الآقاخان الرابع‎; Persian: شاه کریم حسینی، آقاخان چهارم‎; Urdu: شاه کریم حسینی، آقاخان چهارم‬‎; Aga Khan is also transliterated as Aqa Khan and Agha Khan;[1] born 13 December 1936) is the 49th and current Imam of Nizari Ismailism, a denomination of Isma'ilism within Shia Islam consisting of an estimated 10-15 million adherents (10—12% of the world's Shia Muslim population).[2][3][4][5] The Aga Khan is a business magnate with British citizenship,[6][2][7][8][9] as well as a racehorse owner and breeder.[7][10] He has held this position of Imam, under the title of Aga Khan IV, since 11 July 1957,[11] when, at the age of 20, he succeeded his grandfather, Sir Sultan Muhammad Shah Aga Khan III. It is believed that the Aga Khan is a direct lineal descendant of the Islamic prophet Muhammad through Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law, Ali,[12] considered the first Imam in Shia Islam, and Ali's wife Fatima az-Zahra, Muhammad's daughter from his first marriage. In 1986 the Aga Khan ordained the current version of the Ismailia Constitution – an ecclesiastical decree[13] affirming to Nizari Ismailis his "sole right to interpret the Qur'an and provide authoritative guidance on [all] matters of faith"[14] and formalising his sole discretion, power and authority for the governance of Nizari Ismaili jamats (places of worship) and institutions.[15]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aga_Khan_I…

    This second wife comes from the Nazi Thyseen family
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inaara_Aga…

    Hassan-e Sabbāh (mistakenly Hassan-i Sabbāh Persian: حسن صباح Hasan-e Sabbāh) or Hassan as-Sabbāh (Arabic: حسن الصباح Ḥasan aṣ-Ṣabbāḥ) (circa 1050–1124)[1][2] was the leader of the Nizārī Ismā‘īlītes and the founder of the order known as Assassins.[3] Assassins, who are often referred to as the Hashshashin, was a group of fedayeen.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan-i_S…

    http://www.ismaili.net/histoire/history0…

    https://iis.ac.uk/encyclopaedia-articles…

    http://www.skewsme.com/assassin.html

    https://web.archive.org/web/200508301122…

    http://www.ismaili.net/Source/fd0328d.ht…

    https://the.ismaili/imams-and-their-love…

    SJG
  • san_jose_guy
    6 years ago
    Nizari
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nizari

    Want to read more about this group:

    The assassins : the story of medieval Islam's secret sect / W.B. Bartlett. (2002)

    https://www.amazon.com/Assassins-Story-M….

    SJG
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