Sexual Harassment / And Victoria’s Secret

I agree with Shailyn. We are all horn dogs but that doesn’t mean we get to stop acting like decent humans and not be respectful to others. There is a time, place and manner to get it on but I wonder if some folks have forgotten about basic manners.

This seems to be a malady of the rich and powerful who have lived in an entitlement bubble. But maybe they are just the ones who make the news. At any rate, there are all sorts of opportunities for fun times when it’s ok. Like Shailyn says, strip clubs are an example. The rest of the time it shouldn’t be that difficult to act like a decent human being.

I just reread my post. I expect to act like a decent human being in a strip club too. I just meant there is a time and place to interact about sexy stuff and a time and place not too.

This is why I only hire matronly women over 50. Seriously, who needs this shit?

I suspect that there is some witch hunting mixed in with legit complaints, but since it is all he said/she said, we will never know.

But all of these unsubstantiated claims are going to start backfiring on women. They already are in corporate settings, where women who are fired for performance reasons are increasingly leveling claims of hostile work environments as a means of picking up a little more on the way out. Male bosses are becoming increasingly reluctant to be alone with female subordinates, whether in the office or elsewhere.

I agree, but men hitting on women is nothing new. We are in a dry patch for real news, and the media have to dig up whatever titillating trash they can to maintain their reader/watcher market shares.

The rumors about Matt Lauer have been swirling around for over a decade. Suddenly, his employer learns about it and is shocked, shocked I tell you. There’s a lot of CYA behavior going on in Hollywood and Media. I expect the same expression of shock in Washington in the coming days. I mean, who could have anticipated that some congressmen were horndogs ? I had no idea.

Funny to watch the moralistic liberals chowing down on each other. I use a staff/paralegal on a per diem basis so that I have as little contact s possible with the lawsuit crazy "protected classes".

There are a lot of CEOs out there who divorced, then married their young, hot secretary. The new wife then makes sure that only ugly, old women work for Daddy Warbucks.

I read a blog post that speculated that none of these stories would have become public if Hillary was president. She would have protected Weinstein and the press would have avoided harassment stories because of Bill. Plus, the media fantasizes that this outrage will somehow result in Trump’s impeachment. They are willing to sacrifice Franken, Conyers, and others if they get Trump in the end.

so it's all trumps fault.

And, now it’s Garrison Keillor. Franken and Keilor. Minnesota hardest hit.

While it does sometimes feel like a war on men, the truth is that the guys in the news could likely have stayed out of trouble if they had just gotten their needs met by sex workers instead of harassing women who don’t want to fuck them. I kind of understand weinstein’s fetish for fucking beautiful young actresses. But as for all of the others, they were stoopid for thinking that they could get away with the this over the long term.

For all these guys, it’s not about sex, it’s about power.

Powerful men having their way with women is nothing new (been that way since the beginning of time); it's just that a threshold has been broken in that it is now all coming-out

Charlie Rose got me by surprise, he seems as such a mild-mannered guy - I did not know about Charlie Rose till today but had noticed they were not airing his show on PBS which I often watch at night

The most surprising thing to me about Matt Lauer's sexual harassment is that it was a woman making the accusations.

LOL

Interesting comment about none of this coming out if Hillary had been elected. I had not heard that argument yet. I'll have to think about it some but it makes sense on the surface.

I've actually been thinking about how to use this whole damn sexual harassment issue to my benefit. Now we have an opening to discuss the issue with civilian women in a non-threatening way. No telling what it could lead to.

Hiring an escort or going to a strip club might not be the answer either. Celebrities, politicians, and executives could leave themselves open to blackmail and extortion if they patronize sex workers. At a minimum, if they're really famous, TMZ and the paparazzi might photograph them going into a strip club, which could lead to divorce and might damage a PG-rated image.

I wonder if some of these guys spend so much time in the office - that they act like the office is their pseudo-home? I’m not excusing any behavior - but since these guys spend more time at work - with their female coworkers - they probably are closer with coworkers than their wives. They probably aren’t intimate with their wives either - as their wives have moved on long ago.

@Cashman1234,

I agree. It's not an excuse but it might be a partial explanation. Men will eventually try to fuck whatever's around. If they spend 2/3 of their lives at work (and the rest of the time they're sleeping), it stands to reason that the office might become their sexual outlet as well.

20 something years ago a girl at work surprised me and pinched me on the rear. I tried to get even and pinch her rear but she was too quick. Everyone seemed to think it was funny. No one reported anything. Less than a few months later she asked in front of other females at work if I would like to do a one night stand. Again no one brought the matter up at a later time. Sexual harassment or a blown opportunity?

If a guy did this nowadays , he could be immediately fired even if the woman didn't complain. Of course someone would have to report it. In my case neither the female workers nor I reported anything. If I had reported something that long ago to some bosses, they might have asked why I didn't take her up on the offer. Things have changed and almost everywhere in work we have sexual harassment training so that you don't do anything inappropriate while at work. I don't know if that makes our society better. I didn't ask one hot girl out at work because I didn't know how she might take it. She ended up moving to Australia. You lose opportunities when you are worried about taking a chance. 20 some years ago it was ok to play around without getting in any trouble. I guess it still is if no one reports anything but I have doubts no one would say anything nowadays if they worry about getting fired for staying quiet.