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san_jose_guy
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Oakland Ghost Ship Fire

I had never herd of this place before, but I have always found lofts and communes interesting. I deliberately declined to look in to it as it was happening, saving the matter for when I had more time and when all the dust had settled.

I know that in other places, like San Jose, there have been crackdowns on similar sites.

en.wikipedia.org

36 people killed

9880 sq foot building, originally a warehouse

residents,and hosting entertainment, record producer '100% Silk'

Fire started on first floor and spread rapidly, no fire sprinklers.

Only 2 stair cases, not leading directly to exits, one very hard to find at all. Mountains of junk of all types in the building/ ( Theatrical environs often like this. )

Building 20 days after the fire en.wikipedia.org

Satellite view, in center of screen, with all the vehicles parked in it. google.com

I guess it is this here where it says "Ghost Ship" on the wall. google.com

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Some people were living in motor-homes inside Almena's place. Some are living in motor-homes on the streets of Mountain View:

sacramento.cbslocal.com

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san_jose_guy
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Almena's place? You mean on a street, or inside of a large building?

Mountain View? People are living in motor homes in San Jose. It used to be on Stockton St. But since they decided to build town homes and yuppify that, they ran all the motorhome people out. Today this place is S. 10th St.

And yes, most of our homeless are working homeless, and according to the official count the average age of our homeless is 7 years.

SJG

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ppwh, yes I see the article. I've been involved with community activist since 2008, and some before too. Most of our homeless are working homeless. They are unseen, and mostly homeless families.

Our economic system is a nightmare and a disaster. And our politicians are neo-liberals. It all sucks.

sacramento.cbslocal.com

And of course communes could be a constructive solution. But usually they are violating building codes, or violating something.

SJG

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I had read some interviews at the time where artists were saying that was the best they could afford in the area for living / studio space. There were some stories about fundraisers to improve the safety situation, but the allegations are that it ended up being spent on meth and the improvements were never made.

Here are a couple of stories that mention the RVs:

people.com

There were also RVs located at the space, one of which was turned into a “studio/loft/nest” by an artist.

theguardian.com

The former resident of the warehouse said at least 10 RVs and trailers were inside the warehouse, on top of which people built makeshift shelters, studios and living rooms while using the vehicles for storage.

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san_jose_guy
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people.com

Yes, I see. Good pictures of the interior. Neat.

We have places like this in San Jose. I knew a guy who started one. One is called Ginger Bread House. Most of them though are large old houses, Victorians and Craftmens, not warehouses. They are habitated by artists and musicians. Some have said that the people have the income, they just get their money off the books and so they cannot verify it. And then there is also as always the larger work space issues which has driven the loft movement.

Well, that fire was a tragedy.

I read this years ago, a reprint of an old book: amazon.com

theguardian.com

Oakland is more wild and woolly than either San Jose or San Francisco. Likely for this reason, I feel an attraction to it.

Thanks for the articles.

SJG

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Mate27
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^^^ This guy is a super faggit for starting this thread!

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JimGassagain
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I thought this was a strip club website?

How about posting some reviews of a club you visited instead of your AAMP trysts.

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san_jose_guy
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Plea deals expected, less than 10 years. But the two men are charged with dozens of counts of involuntary man slaughter. Being represented by J. Tony Serra.

sfgate.com

Often counter culture groups do use irregular living facilities. Their people can live and work in closer proximity, and they can thus beat the war of all against all over housing costs, which Capitalism is.

SJG

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