I've read a bit recently knocking ITC action compared to OTC.
Granted, it doesn't offer as much GFE opportunity, or comfort. But in many clubs there is more of a sense of danger to being caught.
That excitement certainly adds to my enjoyment.
Disclaimer: I don't seek OTC
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Flagoneer you make a good point. There are differences between itc and otc - and imo - they are both enjoyable. Sometimes I don’t want to deal with the logistics of otc - and then I find a club where I know I can get what I want (itc).
There is generally more planning to setup otc. The benefit is that it’s an experience where you don’t need to be concerned if management will stop your fun. It can be expensive - but guys will pay for the experience.
Itc has more of a risk of getting caught - but it can be fun too. I like the otc experience - and I can still enjoy my time there.
I enjoy itc. OTC can be fun as well but as stated can have issues such as the girl flaking on you or being more expensive.
But if I can get what I want itc, I'm good.
My interest in OTC over ITC (if we are talking about the big bucks) is purely economic and value/time first and then comfort and privacy second, although ITC is definitely more convenient and immediate.
Do what you enjoy.
Don't tell people that they're having fun wrong.
^ Well said. I don't think of either as a chump's game.
ITC is fun, but constrained. I'd rather fuck in a bed than on a chair.
In strip clubs its not just that they have young and beautiful women, its also that they are dolled up and dressed to please. So there is a great deal to be said for just See, Want, Get! That is after all the ultimate power trip.
So being able to select a girl and engage with her, and then have her, without she having to take off her shoes or change her clothes, and without having to use vehicular transportation, is the greatest.
But, what happens after that? You only get that first time with the girl once. So it is necessary to find ways of recreating that somehow, when seeing her offsite and by appointment.
But by all means, don't pass up ITC opportunities, that first time.
Flagooner points out that the GFE is probably better OTC. Well that gets to my whole point, buying dances is for chumps. Civilian interactions, front room makeout session. Then when it is time for your own pants to come down, you invite her to the back room.
SJG
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There's also the cleanness aspect of it that those of germaphobic tendencies tend to take note of. ie: Used wet tissues or condoms all over the floor or booth/chair, damp or slippery floor, and the general fear of sitting on or touching old or fresh cum stains. The cleaning crew for a lot of clubs aren't the most reliable when it comes to sterilizing the VIP area, and even then, if you're in a club that's very extras friendly, there's no time for a quick clean up between shift change.
So, of course, if you go for OTC, that is the last thing you have to worry about, assuming business is hosted in a clean house/hotel/etc.
Even though I have not done any OTC, I will say this. I think ITC and OTC equally have their advantages and disadvantages.
I really love the ITC experience. For me, it is the thrill of the whole process:
At my local clubs, I don't have to worry about being caught by a bouncer, manager or any other staff member. They all know what happens in the VIP and they turn a blind eye to it. Still, when I do take a girl to the VIP, I tip the bouncer to guarantee that we don't get disturbed.
The only thing that may interfere with my fun would be a raid by LE. I have never been in a club while a raid was taking place. It is my understanding that when LE does show up on the club's property, a warning is sent out throughout the club. If you are a customer in the VIP, just make sure you put it back in your pants. I don't know how fast LE moves, but I imagine I do have enough time to put it away since, for the most part, my pants are still on. The dancer may have a harder time since she will have to put her panties, bra and (maybe) shoes back on.
But, as others have said many times already, if you really are concerned about being caught, then this isn't the right hobby for you.
Hear, hear @Eve
Fully agree. Nothing wrong with ITC however, certainly done it. Just prefer the comfort and safety of OTC, also the better (to me) experience. But to each his own though.
The one thing that I prefer about OTC is that we can enjoy cunnilingus to our hearts' content.
During my 15 years being heavily involved in the escort scene one of my chief complaints was always
"I'm horny now. Not a week from now."
cause the good escorts NEVER had same day appointments available. That's why I was also a fan of FBSM outfits. If I couldn't score an LMA with an escort I liked, I'd settle for a rub-n-tug. Problem there was the FBSM places usually only operated til 11pm. So, you couldn't get horny late at night.
Then, I learned about extras available ITC in SC VIP rooms and dancers available OTC. And sugar babies. ITC is great if I'm horny right now, and I'm willing to put up with less than ideal conditions in exchange for immediate gratification. OTC or a SB is great when I can plan ahead. But there's a whole new set of issues.
In Atlanta, there's only one club with reliable, affordable ITC extras. And I'm only willing to put up with day shift there to get it. That means I have to be horny before 6pm (the good day shift girls have made their money and left long before day shift is actually over). Another club seems to be developing as a good night shift extras place but it's expensive, $$$ minimum.
Cultivating an OTC stripper takes time and money I don't seem to have the patience for any more. I think the crackdown on VIP extras in two of my fav clubs may actually help with this, though, as now I can tell dancers "I'd love to spend a lot of money on you, but VIP is too limited here. If we could see each other outside the club where we can do as we please, then you could make some money from me."
Cultivating SBs is equally time consuming, but after almost a year of practice I think I'm getting better at it. Matter of fact, my current SB has been the solution to both issues. We've had some great planned out dates and she's also game for a last minute dinner date followed by a quickie in the back seat of my car. I was pleased to discover it is actually a little roomier and more comfortable, and cleaner (to address Eve's concern), than many VIP rooms I've been in. And the "risk of getting caught" that many cite for preferring ITC is present there, too (we actually did get caught once by a shopping center security guard who just knocked on the window and kept on walking).
s275 wrote,
" I really love the ITC experience. For me, it is the thrill of the whole process:"
I go along with this entirely, that is the fun of strip clubs, the power trip.
But, you only get that experience with a girl once. So given that, don't want to waste it by not going for FS-ITC when available.
Also, don't want to waste the chance on that first makeout session with her, and of course front room because then it is more open ended and you can lead it.
After, of course you'll be seeing her OTC and by appointment, and that will be completely different.
SJG
Yardbirds youtube.com
"... I'm horny now. Not a week from now ..."
LOL - SCs/ITC is great in that it offers JITP (just in time pussy); and usually immediate gratification.
This is why I hardly ever plan my SC visits and mostly go when in the mood; I.e. IDK if I'll be horny Saturday and If I'm horny Tuesday then I'm not gonna wait till Saturday.
I thought this post was going to be about rap music in the club.