Any of you guys ever have a stripper offer you a massage in the club?
purple75
Texas
I went to Bucks Dallas the other day and pretty soon after I arrive a really hot dancer approached me and introduced herself to me. After that she asked if I wanted a massage. My first thought was that it was weird. I'm still kinda new to the game but I've never been offered a massage and never read about stuff like that happening in clubs. I chalked it up to her way of warming me up for a dance and accepted the massage. It was about 95% shoulders and really not that great. Anyway, she stopped and asked me if I wanted another one. I said no and she asked if I wanted a dance, which I accepted. After a couple of dances, I stopped her (dances weren't good either) and gave her $40. She told me it was also $30 for the massage. I said "You never said there was any charge for the massage" and just let the words hang in the air. She kept a forced smile on her face and she said "You didn't know you had to pay for it?". I repeated that we never agreed on a price and I wouldn't have accepted if I had known they were $30 (way overpriced for sure). She said she would take $20 but I said I wasn't paying anything and that we could just go talk to the manager.
When it became clear to her that I wasn't budging, she said "OK, let's talk to the manager". She clearly thought they would be on her side. The first guy we talked to just asked a couple of questions before be deferred the whole matter to another guy who was clearly higher up the ladder. That guy quickly told the girl "We don't do massages here!", "You don't have a license!" and he apologized to me, shook my hand and the matter was settled. A waitress, an older Asian lady (who seemed to have some authority) also apologized to me and said she "had my back" and wouldn't have let the dancer get away with that.
Anyway, just wanted to share my experience and see if anyone else had anything similar happen to them. The dancer in question looked in her mid 20s, is black, and had size C or D breasts. I'd rate her an 8 or a 9. Its a shame someone so hot would be so shitty. Oh, another thing...shortly after all this fuckery, she gets on stage for her circuit around the club. She never took her top off. And she just kinda swayed a bit with the music. No energy and no enthusiasm at all. Its a damn shame.
When it became clear to her that I wasn't budging, she said "OK, let's talk to the manager". She clearly thought they would be on her side. The first guy we talked to just asked a couple of questions before be deferred the whole matter to another guy who was clearly higher up the ladder. That guy quickly told the girl "We don't do massages here!", "You don't have a license!" and he apologized to me, shook my hand and the matter was settled. A waitress, an older Asian lady (who seemed to have some authority) also apologized to me and said she "had my back" and wouldn't have let the dancer get away with that.
Anyway, just wanted to share my experience and see if anyone else had anything similar happen to them. The dancer in question looked in her mid 20s, is black, and had size C or D breasts. I'd rate her an 8 or a 9. Its a shame someone so hot would be so shitty. Oh, another thing...shortly after all this fuckery, she gets on stage for her circuit around the club. She never took her top off. And she just kinda swayed a bit with the music. No energy and no enthusiasm at all. Its a damn shame.
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All the places i have seen these, they were $10 a song compared to $25-30 a dance, and one of the girls said she would do 3 for $25, but i gave her $30 anyway; i tip on top of these massages if she does a good job and/or looks hot. If she wasn't much to look at and/or friendly, i definitely don't want her touching me. They also usually don't wait for the next song to start but will usually do at least a full song, so i haven't really encountered any masseuse ROBs. i wonder how many other clubs have these.
You were fortunate (Purple75) that the situation worked in your favor. The simple truth is that any service provided in a club will have a price attached to it. Simply having a dancer sitting with you requires an investment (buying her drinks, passing her cash, etc). I'd call it a learning experience (for you). I doubt the dancer will learn anything from this (based on your description) as she simply seems to be going through the motions.
I respectfully disagree with JS69 on value. Even $10 per dance is steep compared to what you pay a professional. You pay $60-80 at massage envy for an hour massage. With 3 min songs on average you've paid that much in under 30 min at the club and it's only your shoulders.
but a couple weeks ago, i saw a PL give a stripper a massage at the bar. i was sitting right beside both of them. based on how she greeted him, he was a regular/guy she's met before
I have asked one over before specifically for a massage in the front room. I also had one specifically say that I didn't need to tip her anything, but, of course, took the $ when I insisted.
I treat questions that start with "would you like a ..." in a SC as someone trying to sell something. E.g., if the waitress says "would you like a tub of ice for your beer?" or "would you like another Red Bull", I ask how much the ice service is or how much the Red Bull costs rather than assuming it was supposed to be free and calling a manager over it when she expects payment.
A graceful way to handle a post-massage tip before dances could be to say something like "wait, let me tip you for the massage before we go back" and give her a $5 or $10. That way, your account is clear for the massage, and you have set the tone that if she goes above and beyond unasked, a tip could be involved. She probably won't want to blow the chance of possibly selling multiple dances by getting into it about the massage. If she does, though, less money wasted.
It doesn't sound like anything you might have done would have resulted in a good experience with that dancer you encountered, though.
Yes. A lot of the time they're at no charge and sometimes they're pretty good.
Most of them aren't great at it.
I see massages as a nice appetizer/nightcap. The norm at a couple of recent clubs is $10 per song. Like many, I've had a comp mini massage on the floor by dancers as part of their sales pitch.
I've known her for a while, and every time I see her, she just walks over to me and starts massaging my shoulders and neck. It's sheer bliss. She probably does it primarily because the first time she did, I just gave her $10. Without being asked.
I really wish she'd see me "professionally". I'd really like to get the whole body treatment.
As dancer "duomaxwell" once posted on TUSCL, "strippers don't do anything for free" - even when it's "free" is all part of the hustle - as DoctorEvil posted, whether it's a massage or w/e else, if she's not my type I often cut her off pretty-quickly to not waste her time and her wanting some kind of tip for her time - to me a massage is along the lines of the girl sitting on your-lap and putting her arms around you and maybe giving you some GFE; part of the sales-pitch and if I'm not interested I cut her off b/c in the past I had issues w/ dancers coming up to me unsolicited and start grinding on me (fully clothed) then expect me to pay them for it.
As others; I rarely spend on anything beyond dances (or the occasional VIP) - in the recent past there's only dancer I let massage me for multiple songs and I tipped her for it - she's a black-girl from some island in the Caribbean who came to the US on a track scholarship - she is very strong w/ very strong hands and gives a very-good deep massage which I sometimes indulge in (but she's never asked me to tip-her).
IMO this girl was a ROB - the equivalent of her sitting on your lap then wanting to be tipped for it - that's part of the job - as duomaxwell posted, "strippers don't do anything for free" - thus next time dot your i's and cross your t's so there won't be misunderstandings - and getting a manager involved is often a crapshoot b/c many are douches that will take the dancers' side automatically; particularly at lower-end/dive clubs.