At least that's my take away from Hemingway's "The Snows of Kilimanjaro"
But it was a long time ago, and maybe other people take it different ways.
But was Hemingway a misogynist? Many people think so. I have always found his portrayals of women to be disturbing, but ringing true.
"The one thing I know is that a woman should never marry a man who hated his mother."
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Martha Gellhorn and Ernest Hemingway in China
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9. Ernest Hemingway
You know him as … one of the most influential novelists of the 20th century.
But did you know he was also … a misogynist? Hemingway, in both his personal life and in his writing, seems to associate women with frivolous gossip and neuroticism. Many of the women in his fiction are made up of sexist stereotypes that characters confirm with their inner monologue.
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Crazy women are a staple of Tennessee Williams. Does that mean that he is a misogynist? Is it related to the fact that he is gay?
Or is he just telling it like it is, especially in his time and place?
Is it even fair to call the women crazy? The world that they live in is far crazier.
Night of the Iguana was his one comedy. It was very different.
Anyone ever see "The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds " by Paul Zindel. I first saw it performed as a play, then I read the script, and then I saw the movie with Joanne Woodward.
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In Mario Puzo's "The Godfather", Connie would qualify for going crazy. But in his "Last Don" series, the women are far more crazy.
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I think the fact that Tennessee Williams didn't fixate on bringing babies into strip clubs makes him appear fairly balanced.
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:) :) :)
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Yeah In "Leaving Las Vegas" a drunk pays a hooker to watch him die.
So what's your fucking point SJG, and why should I give a rats ass (hint: I DON'T) ????
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Let's change the subject or threadjack every thread that SJG starts.
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I agree that Tennessee Williams was perfectly balanced. Its just that his plays show things which are really dark.
I wasn't thinking about Leaving Las Vegas, but it is a good point.
My point, my read on Hemingway, is simply that beyond a point, most women do not care. You aren't a baby and your aren't a puppy, and so if you aren't useful to them, they will sit and watch you die without doing anything at all.
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Funniest joke on the internet,
SJG went into a strip club !
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25, STFU.
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Funniest joke on the internet,
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There were many years during which it was impossible to talk with my wife. She would just explode.
So it was leaving notes.
But if she was real mad, she would make theater out of tearing up notes.
So leave them when so she finds them when I am not there. She will tear them up, but she will read them first.
But she is to be out of town, with family. So I take some real time and write to her at great length and mail it to her.
I emphasize that she is not allowing communication or partnership, and that this is very harmful. And I depict my feelings about this repeatedly as,
"Takes The Color Out Of My Blood".
She says it brought her to tears. But nothing changed, nothing.
Was it Tolstoy or Dostoevsky who wrote about the fine Russian ladies crying over the fate of fictional characters in the opera, but caring not for their coach drivers sitting out in the Russian cold.
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