tuscl

A Woman Will Just Sit There And Watch You Die

san_jose_guy
money was invented for handing to women, but buying dances is a chump's game
At least that's my take away from Hemingway's "The Snows of Kilimanjaro"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snows_…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Snows_…

But it was a long time ago, and maybe other people take it different ways.

But was Hemingway a misogynist? Many people think so. I have always found his portrayals of women to be disturbing, but ringing true.

"The one thing I know is that a woman should never marry a man who hated his mother."
Martha Gellhorn

http://theblogalsorises.com/2013/04/22/h…

Martha Gellhorn and Ernest Hemingway in China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha_Gel…

http://theblogalsorises.com/2013/04/22/h…

http://airshipdaily.com/blog/02032014-of…
"
9. Ernest Hemingway

You know him as … one of the most influential novelists of the 20th century.

But did you know he was also … a misogynist? Hemingway, in both his personal life and in his writing, seems to associate women with frivolous gossip and neuroticism. Many of the women in his fiction are made up of sexist stereotypes that characters confirm with their inner monologue.
"

https://muse.jhu.edu/book/22530

http://www.elcamino.edu/faculty/sdonnell…

https://prezi.com/abeegwegjt9e/was-ernes…

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index…

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/16/opinio…

SJG

from Almost Famous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxjCMxrE…

10 comments

  • san_jose_guy
    •
    7 years ago
    Street Car Named Desire
    https://youtu.be/er7h5MB2D1s?list=PLADFB…

    Crazy women are a staple of Tennessee Williams. Does that mean that he is a misogynist? Is it related to the fact that he is gay?

    Or is he just telling it like it is, especially in his time and place?

    Is it even fair to call the women crazy? The world that they live in is far crazier.

    Night of the Iguana was his one comedy. It was very different.

    Anyone ever see "The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds " by Paul Zindel. I first saw it performed as a play, then I read the script, and then I saw the movie with Joanne Woodward.
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068528/

    In Mario Puzo's "The Godfather", Connie would qualify for going crazy. But in his "Last Don" series, the women are far more crazy.

    SJG
  • ppwh
    •
    7 years ago
    I think the fact that Tennessee Williams didn't fixate on bringing babies into strip clubs makes him appear fairly balanced.
  • san_jose_guy
    •
    7 years ago
    :) :) :)

    SJG
  • Hugh_G_Rection
    •
    7 years ago
    Yeah In "Leaving Las Vegas" a drunk pays a hooker to watch him die.

    So what's your fucking point SJG, and why should I give a rats ass (hint: I *DON'T*) ????
  • twentyfive
    •
    7 years ago
    Let's change the subject or threadjack every thread that SJG starts.
  • san_jose_guy
    •
    7 years ago
    I agree that Tennessee Williams was perfectly balanced. Its just that his plays show things which are really dark.

    I wasn't thinking about Leaving Las Vegas, but it is a good point.

    My point, my read on Hemingway, is simply that beyond a point, most women do not care. You aren't a baby and your aren't a puppy, and so if you aren't useful to them, they will sit and watch you die without doing anything at all.

    SJG
  • twentyfive
    •
    7 years ago
    Funniest joke on the internet,

    SJG went into a strip club !

    that's the joke
  • san_jose_guy
    •
    7 years ago
  • ime
    •
    7 years ago
    Funniest joke on the internet,

    SJG went into a strip club !

    that's the joke
  • san_jose_guy
    •
    7 years ago
    There were many years during which it was impossible to talk with my wife. She would just explode.

    So it was leaving notes.

    But if she was real mad, she would make theater out of tearing up notes.

    So leave them when so she finds them when I am not there. She will tear them up, but she will read them first.

    But she is to be out of town, with family. So I take some real time and write to her at great length and mail it to her.

    I emphasize that she is not allowing communication or partnership, and that this is very harmful. And I depict my feelings about this repeatedly as,

    "Takes The Color Out Of My Blood".

    She says it brought her to tears. But nothing changed, nothing.

    Was it Tolstoy or Dostoevsky who wrote about the fine Russian ladies crying over the fate of fictional characters in the opera, but caring not for their coach drivers sitting out in the Russian cold.

    SJG
You must be a member to leave a comment.Join Now
Got something to say?
Start your own discussion