Goosman's post "Am I Willing to Risk it All?" made me wonder:
How often do strippers act like they really like you during a dance?
When a stripper compliments you or acts like she's really into you, how often is it just SS compared to how often it leads to something OTC.
Also, do you like it when strippers act that way or would you prefer them to be a little less personal while still giving a good dance?
Once again i agree with Subraman the Sagacious. Strippers may compliment me during dances or VIPs regardless of whether they want to see me OTC or not. You ser, strippers, being people and not (necessarily) just whores, sometimes just like us . . . or they want a bigger tip . . . or they want us as regulars . . . or they want to see us OTC . . . or some combination of the above.
I will say that the 3 strippers I've seen OTC, and a couple of others that I swung and missed with, we're all quite complimentary and fun to be with, not just sexually seductive.
When most people here refer to OTC i think we mean paid OTC. Your question seems like you are asking if she compliments you does that mean she wants to hang out with you for free on the outside of the club. the answer..Not likely but not completely impossible either.
I prefer the intimacy, even if it's fake. That's part of the fantasy I'm paying for - a hot chick that's really into me.
Interestingly, I've had a decent run with OTC, and in all cases it began with a stripper providing GFE ITC. When I've done OTC with a stripper that didn't provide GFE ITC, the OTC date has been terrible 100% of the time.
There's some merit to SJG's front room makout theory. LOL!
How do you know if it's real or stripper shit?
If she isn't asking you for money or some other type of monetary benefit, it's real. If it only comes with the premis of or expectation of money or benefit to her, then it's stripper shit.
I'm pretty good at telling whether they are sincere or not and it really doesn't matter either way. What ever they say isn't going to influence my spending. Some of them are so ridiculous that I just have to LOL. Like a 22 yo black chick telling me, a 75 yo white dude, that I am the sexist guy in the room.
LOL - as long as you are paying her don't count on anything being genuine - not saying it absolutely can't be; but most likely not - and even if it is what she still cares about is getting paid (w/ rare exceptions).
In the end it doesn't matter - you are paying her and she's trying to please you - it's just a service she's providing- and that most of us wanna receive.
If you are looking for a reciprocal "romantic connection" the strip-club is not the place.
And as ButterMan mentioned; OTC in the TUSCL context is meant as a paid "date"; not a romantic date - OTC and ITC are the same, i.e. paid-services just in different locations.
It's SS 99% of the time. If not more.
Front room makeout is how you let the girl get real with you. You always want to get her off script, and starting with your very first interactions with her.
Find a girl you would like to be waking up in the mornings with, and approach her with that in mind.
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You know that a strippers compliments are not SS if she starts fucking you for free. In 20 + years of strip clubbing, I've only had one stripper whose compliments I knew were genuine.
My experience is different. The girls more often than not are quite real. They have motives beyond just money.
SJG
^ That's because they want to be a part of your organization.
They don't know about it yet, but that is a very good point and exactly how I expect it to work.
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In the organization I am building it will always be at least this good.
A little devil's advocate, as well as anal-retentive hair-splitting. Of these claims:
I certainly agree with #1 and #2. I'm less sure about #3. Put yourself in the stripper's 6" clear heels for a moment. There's little reason to make up bullshit compliments ... most people are not so repulsive from head to toe that you can't find a single redeeming quality. It's not hard to come up with a genuine compliment, so why risk coming off like the girl who tells Shadowcat he's the hottest guy in the club? Hell, even without monetary motivation like a stripper has, I can find ways to compliment people. I have a fat friend who I hugged, and her perfume smelled amazing, and I told her so. Doesn't mean I'm romantically interested, she's still fat and I wouldn't let her suck my dick (although I might pass her number to Chess and Papi), but the compliment was sincere.
There are things that I get complimented on by civilian dates and strippers alike. Does that mean the strippers are lying whereas the civilians who give me the exact same compliment aren't, or does it mean they managed to find something to compliment me on? It's only when someone is uncomplimentable that the girls go to the outlandish ("You, 70 year old man, are the hottest guy in the club") or the old standbys for the totally repulsive ("Your eyes are so beautiful!")(And yes, I hear that one sometimes, always bums me out LOL)
Anyway, just throwing that big meatball out there.
Thanks for the insight everyone. For the record, I meant paid or free OTC.
".... , she's still fat and I wouldn't let her suck my dick ..."
Oh you of little faith - big-girls give great head - they often aim to please - you're missing out mon
I don't know about you guys but when the strippers compliment me they really mean it ! Ha Aside to @subraman fat girls give the best head they are always hungry.
^ yeah - just make sure they are fed b/f giving you head lest you end up missing an appendage
^^^They seem to like the whip cream straight from the can
Honestly, I'd prefer them to be honest with me. You don't have to be brutal, but don't lie and say I'm handsome when I'm ugly to rather I'd prefer if they say I'm ugly but have a great personality because I do ^_^ Though I could really be handsome I don't know
Not often but then again my boyish good looks, pleasing french cologne aroma, and large vise grip hands understandably make them nervous...dirty old men are easier for them psychologically ironically.
It's tough for the young guys. They tell us this SS, and it could actually be true, but you have to assume everything is SS until proving otherwise.
I know, right? Having this slammin' body sometimes is a curse. The girls can't help themselves when they see me in my red skinny jeans.
I purposely try to dress in a way as to not look provocative to them - after all they are working and I don't want to distract them.
I generally get compliments for having a muscular body and I do work out so I would assume some of those comments are sincere. But I take everything with a grain of salt. I had one dancer who kept commenting that she thought I was so handsome, so much so it was overkill and obvious SS. I know I'm relatively attractive, I've had unsolicited compliments on my looks from women not known to me given to friends and colleagues who tell me about them. But this was ridiculous.
I would prefer comments to be sincere, but I know its part of the hustle. I generally know when to call BS, but every now and then we all get caught up especially if it's a girl we find particularly hot.
OTC is not the end all be all for me. I'll take it when I can get it at the right price. But there is not a correlation between complements and OTC in my book. Mostly it is to get the most money from you in during the visit and to set things up for future visits.
If they compliment my looks they are either really drunk or it's SS.
Though I occasionally get a dance from a stripper who is entirely focused of doing the job, most of the time the dancer will attempt to show some interest in me (most do realize that they are selling something!) Acting like they care for me is just a small step beyond acting like they are interested enough in me to enjoy dancing for me.
And yes, I know comments on how big my tool is, is stripper shit, but it doesn't hurt my feelings to be lied to in that case!
🔺 📈 ' ' ' ' I got compliments on mi headband & eyewear, blondy took mi eyewear off & on during lap dance, & felt mi headband around, just hung out in da' club though, no otc, lead for her being adopted as a girlfriend at da' club though, helped with discounted tip since she mi girlfriend there, & now more girls, will go back to Hustler Club soon as possible, The nice thing about bigger clubs is dat' there is always plenty of girls available & mostly full naked even if it's only stage viewing' ' ' 💓
As everyone here knows, dancers have a variety of ITC hustles, this just being one of them. IME there's no correlation between most dancers standard ITC hustles and whether they'll see you OTC. . IME, when a dancer is truly interested in discussing OTC, whatever hustle she's running suddenly switches off and her demeanor gets more focused. So if you want to know whether she's open to it, just bring it up.
' 👽_ - - - - ' Maybe I will get compliments on mi rock music shirts on mi next sc visits, I receive outside club compliments regularly. Lil' door opener for music conversation & shows rock interest
Do they really call ugly or elderly men handsome? Or compliment every guys looks. Maybe theyre just drunk. Telling a guy how handsome he is- if the guy believes it, could lead him to cheapen out, expect discounts or free services etc. theres been many discussions of this topic on the stripper forums.. fake compliments arent something all, or even most dancers engage in and some will be restrained so that the guy doesnt start thinking he can get freebies. You have to use common sense, and compare the strip club comments to your day to day experiences. If your wearing a $400 perfume and getting compliments… they are likely genuine. If your visibly ripped with clothes on.. those compliments are genuine.
Your dick is so big? Really? Mine? The first 200 women I banged never noticed. You look so young, I thought you were under 50? Really? Me? The fact no one has asked me for a drivers license since 1980 means nothing?
^As with other incels you have zero experience with any woman.
As long as theyre not dishonest icey. If theyre dishonest then they need to be served with a lil something 😂
yahtzee, I think this displays some off thinking: "how often is it just SS compared to how often it leads to something OTC."
insincere compliments ("stripper shit") and OTC are not opposites. She might compliment you as part of her hustle, whether or not she wants to go OTC with you. She might compliment you sincerely, whether or not she wants to go OTC with you. These topics are orthogonal.
The best policy, IMO, is: enjoy compliments for what they are, but assume they are hustle until they're proven not to be hustle (and it's not easy to prove that). Pursue OTC regardless, these things have little to do with each other.
Not picking nits here -- I think this is an important point.