the "Good Old Days"
Tiredtraveler
Solo PL
I have been clubbing off and on since the 70's. In those days most all clubs did not have lap dance rooms or VIP rooms. Most clubs were locally owned, now many are chains like DeJaVue(yuck).
Yes there were clubs that did things in the back room, we bought a friend a BJ in the back room on his bachelor night in the 70's hoping he would see the light and not marry the bitch but that is a different story. Bottom line is things were available just less obvious and you went to the back room not a VIP. Paid sex has been going on since the first woman figured out that she had something a man wanted and was willing to pay for it.
ALL women play that game to some extent or another. The girl who will not put out until she has either an engagement ring or wedding ring(each way she OWNS you down to the girl who does not do anything until you have spent money on the third date. One night stand bar pick ups are a very recent thing and few girls do that often.
The club girls used to make their money at the tip rail. Lets face it if a dancer got $50-$75(8-10 guys at the rail $1 /guy each song @ minimum of 2 songs/set with the girl doing 4 sets/shift = $64) in $1 tips at the rail she was doing well considering you could make $3/ hour elsewhere.
There were more low skill jobs that paid decently, I knew guys in high school that dropped out to go work in factories and made good money. High paying low work/skill jobs are now gone.
Do you still tip $1 at the rail the same as in 1976? I seldom do, I tip more unless the dancer is so unattractive to me I tip only enough to not loose my seat. (most club have a policy if you sit at the rail you are there to tip. The relative cost of clubbing has gone down. I remember paying a $3-4 cover 35 years ago and now pay $5 and y'all bitch about it. Many still tip $1 at the rail but minimum wage was $3 then!
The bottom line is many girls are there to make money while partying and are so unreliable they cannot hold a regular job(same as the good old days). The more things change the more they stay the same. So how exactly are the good old days better than today. If you do not want extras you go to a fancy Corporate show club where extras are rare or non existent. The worst thing I see is corporate take over of the clubs because they are cash cows. The Cadillac Lounge in Providence is now a 'Scores' prices are up and quality is down. Another problem today is the media always looking for and fabricating stories, clubs always make a juicy story even when there is none on a slow news day making them the targets of politicians for headlines.
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Or, as jackslash says, the good old days were 10 years ago :)
IME mileage was more limited 15+ years ago and w/ lower-mileage there seemed to be more stunners - but I have def had a way better time clubbing in the 2000s than I did in the 90s although I only SCed a handful of times in the 90s and also didn't have much $$$ to be a hardcore SCer.
So IMO the good-old days were so in some areas and not others - and part of it is also nostalgia and being new to the game and more easily impressed.
When it comes to strip clubs, the good old days were pretty damned good. There's still good times around, but there's a difference now with so much information littering the Internet. Anyone who thinks that people who'd have looked the other way won't react when their lack of enforcement is a search engine click away hasn't clubbed long enough to know the difference.
This isn't about whether generalities are right or wrong, it's about people's experiences. People who've clubbed around different parts of the country have seen a difference over the past decade or so, and I'm in agreement that there's a difference. For those who have a situation they like for their approach to the hobby, great for them. I think I wrote that good times are still around, so I'm fine to let that speak for itself.