A case study in how to pay hookers for sex
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
It's a very slow night. Three hours of clubbing and little more to show for it than fat, unattractive, old or ROB. I'm sitting with a 7.5 who is the best I can find. The little head is arguing that she's worthy, the big head says we shouldn't be that desperate, and Mary Jane says what she always says. My 7.5 has been sitting with me for 30 minutes so I need to decide soon. But there I sit, refusing to accept my fate and constantly scanning the club for new arrivals. I came late so a few night shift girls are still straggling in.
A new dancers name is announced on stage. I don't expect much but glance up at the stage to see who's here. Holy shit. If I was in the market for a new DS, this one has the looks to be number 4. She's exquisitely beautiful. A very young blond, pretty girl next door looks, the perfect weight, natural C cups, and as I would soon learn a newbie. She's everything that I most lust for.
After I staged tipped this new girl $20 the 7.5 could tell that she was out of luck. She excused herself and I didn't object. After her stage set, the object of my lust came straight over. I won't bore you with the details. The bottom line is that she had a wonderful personality, and she loves weed. And she was stunningly gorgeous. We did some lap dances, and she gave a very good dance for a newbie. Nothing illegal but she allowed about as much as this club permits for the price I was paying.
Then we went back to my table. The little head insisted that it was time to have the talk, and I agreed. Since I'm not really doing OTC these days, I decided to push for itc extras. But I know it's an uphill battle. This is mostly a non-extras club. There is a special, expensive room where management will look the other way, but I know from experience that most dancers here don't fuck. I'd estimate based on my experience that 10-15% of the girls will fuck or suck in that room. And most of them are on the unattractive side of life. My girl is a 100 times more beautiful than any other dancer here, so I figure that she can make plenty by just giving dances. But the girl is good enough to be DS IV, so I've got to try.
Here's how I start. "I know that just about every guy you dance for probably asks to have sex with you. They couldn't help it because you're extraordinarily beautiful. But I'm not like these other guys...."
Two questions for discussion. Answer either or both. 1. What do you think John said next. Hint: whatever I said it worked cause my dick was in her mouth ten minutes later. 2. What would you have said?
A new dancers name is announced on stage. I don't expect much but glance up at the stage to see who's here. Holy shit. If I was in the market for a new DS, this one has the looks to be number 4. She's exquisitely beautiful. A very young blond, pretty girl next door looks, the perfect weight, natural C cups, and as I would soon learn a newbie. She's everything that I most lust for.
After I staged tipped this new girl $20 the 7.5 could tell that she was out of luck. She excused herself and I didn't object. After her stage set, the object of my lust came straight over. I won't bore you with the details. The bottom line is that she had a wonderful personality, and she loves weed. And she was stunningly gorgeous. We did some lap dances, and she gave a very good dance for a newbie. Nothing illegal but she allowed about as much as this club permits for the price I was paying.
Then we went back to my table. The little head insisted that it was time to have the talk, and I agreed. Since I'm not really doing OTC these days, I decided to push for itc extras. But I know it's an uphill battle. This is mostly a non-extras club. There is a special, expensive room where management will look the other way, but I know from experience that most dancers here don't fuck. I'd estimate based on my experience that 10-15% of the girls will fuck or suck in that room. And most of them are on the unattractive side of life. My girl is a 100 times more beautiful than any other dancer here, so I figure that she can make plenty by just giving dances. But the girl is good enough to be DS IV, so I've got to try.
Here's how I start. "I know that just about every guy you dance for probably asks to have sex with you. They couldn't help it because you're extraordinarily beautiful. But I'm not like these other guys...."
Two questions for discussion. Answer either or both. 1. What do you think John said next. Hint: whatever I said it worked cause my dick was in her mouth ten minutes later. 2. What would you have said?
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I've been good friends with your father for the past 20 years. We both know he'll kill you if he finds out you are working here.
Just give me a blow job and your secret is safe with me. I'll even give you $500 to help with your rent this month."
Her: "I want to blow you right now for free"
Now seriously -
You: "But I'm not like these other guys because I'm going to tip you 100 per song to blow me"
Her: "Okay, but can you make it 150"
You: "Okay"
Great story.
"I'm not like these other guys. I will sexually satisfy you better than any of your boyfriends ever have, and then, when we're done devouring each other, I will pay you more money than any man ever has."
"I'll fuck you without offering you a dime"
Congrats @Smith. You get the RickDugan award for paying strippers for sex. We'll engrave it on your tombstone someday.
"But I'm not like these other guys...I'll put on a white suit and taking you to Applebees, afterward."
HB (Hot Babe): No shittt !!!
JS: Dat's jus me
HB: And thank you so much for the $20 tip at the stage
JS: Aaah I call them $20 bills "Dick". Cus them $20 bills - they go everywhere.
HB: hee heee ... you're so funny Johnny boy - and maybe I should call my purse "mouth"
JS: why that's clever! But why would you call your purse a "mouth"
HB: So you can go on TUSCL and tell your brothers you had your dick in my mouth within 10 minutes.
I'd say: I'm not like these other guys... "I'd make sure to get you off before even thinking of getting off myself ;)"
And don't let girls sell you dances, as that is a chump's game. Front room makeout session, then you inviter her to the back room. Probably take her home with you too.
You are always handing her money, but also convincing her to let you "take care of" her, and hence getting her completely off script.
SJG
SJG
--> Depending on the dancer it would be something between Dougster's libertarian "I want to fuck you for money" and the softer "I'd love to get you back there ion private, but the truth is I'm interested in more than dances. Of course I would totally compensate you extra for your time."
If it's the class of dancer that both GMD and I typically find in the club (trashy and direct), it would be closer to the first pitch. For the class of dancer closer to Dream Stripper material or a classy dancer, it would be closer to the second pitch.
I assume you don't care to use it because it is nonsense and doesn't work. If you know of any that does work, please share.
In a strip club I find direct and honest but respectful is the best approach.
I'm not cheap, and I know that you're worth a lot more than the $100 or $200 that most of these guys probably offer to pay you. So if you're willing to go to the VIP and make my dreams come true, I promise to take very good care of you. I will pay you what you're worth. I'm very respectful, I dont have any weird fetishes, and I won't become a stalker or think that you're my girlfriend. I've done this a lot, I know how stripper customer relationships work, and i can be the best customer you'll ever have.
Ordinarily I would make clear that I'd give her sexual pleasure but that's not really feasible in this VIP. I use that for OTC.
And since everybody will want to know what I paid, it was $500. That includes the room fee and a tip.
You know how to make your money work for you.
I've seen lots and lots and lots of noob's spend hundreds of dollars and get a smooch on the cheek (& blue balls).
Keep these stories coming. And Subra, Papi, GMD, Mr Deuce - your adventures are fun read too !
Hi, I'm juice and I'm not like these other guys as you can see for yourself....I know Champagne rooms are $500 but all I got left is $300 ???
She would more times than not reply like this " well it is getting close to closing and I need to make some money tonight..let me go ask...."
Few min later
I'm balls deep in her pussy juices
Nice story JS
I'm on DS 3,972 keep up
First of all I have had similar situations present themselves to me on more than one occasion. I'm not sure what your club permits but I think you wasted a lot of free milage by heading to the back room in 10 minutes.
Here's what I do. I tip the $20 just like you do. But when she comes back to my table (and she always does) I start a sexy conversation with her telling her first how beautiful and sexy she is; which leads me to tell her how lucky her boyfriend is to have a gorgeous girl like her; most likely she will say she doesn't have a boyfriend; which leads you to tell her how much you would love to lick her pussy and suck her beautiful tits. All the while you've been cuddling close to her rubbing her thighs and legs caressing her beautiful body moving in for a few pecks on the lips which lead to DFK. Feeding her an occasional $20 to keep her with you. In the course of conversation you ask her where she likes going out to dinner and if she likes jacuzzi rooms.
This is the drift of how I lead a girl astray to become my GFE girl. THIS IS NOT THE COMPLETE SCRIPT THIS IS AN OVER SIMPLIFICATION but you get the idea. I do this every time and it has never failed me yet. I am fucking 19 - 25 year olds that enjoy being my GFE girls.
First I find the darkest corner in the building for front room privacy and discression for the dancer of course ♥♥♥
Once I've found my target I will stage tip $10 in domination of $1 I kinda build a skirt and joke about it...maybe the bitch thinks it's $50 or something because without failure like 98% success I always get my hoe
Then at the table I position her chair before she even gets to me in a way to wear she sits she is instantly in my arms and I can gain access to her ass, pussy and breasts.
I do the same of telling her how mother fucking sexy she be and how I wish my cock was deep inside her gut. At the same time I'm rubbing all over her and kissing her knock, shoulders and lip's
Usually if she is down we go fuck for a good $200-$300....I always get priced at $900-$600 but always get the lower situation usually because I'm in on a slow night, or day...weekday usually and she literally has made no money
That isn't pua. That's rape.
... I'm gonna eat ass like a human centipede.
... tonight we're gonna find out how many orgasms it takes before you collapse from exhaustion.
... I'll be you $100 you cum before I do. You down?
You probably mean PUA, it stands cor "pick up artist" (apparently it's a thing)
You got it right brother ! If these guys like HoHoHoDetwaah who have No Club Experience No Club Reviews think they know Well they are just kidding themselves. We know what works ! We've been there done that. This dude is talking stuff he knows nothing about !
Juice ! Juice ! Juice !
It has been a thing since at least the early 80's. Probably longer. I saw a flyer for a seminar in my freshman year of college. Couldn't attend the seminar? The flyer had an address and phone number so you could order an entire course with textbook, audio cassettes and a newsletter so you could stay up to date on the advances in the field.
Dominic that was some funny shit
"I'm sorry, but PUAs give men a bad name by being so disrespectful to the ladies. If they want sex so bad, why not just offer to pay their target appropriately."
You are preaching to the choir .
I think these guys know they don't need to. It is part of the fun.
I was being facetious.
Forgive me. it is hard to know with some of the characters around here.
Some of us aren't Adonis, with a wad of money in each pocket. As well, not all the whores fuck, and some are even picky about *who* they fuck. How much they charge also varies, as does the range of activities and willingness to meet a stranger outside the club.
As Diminic77 points out, the type of strippers I'm usually dealing with tend to be amenable to the more direct approach. It seldom hurts to be tactful, nice and diplomatic, however.
I agree completely. What the PUA's put out is just posturing, and obviously so. Now yes, everyone likes guys who are confident and assertive, but someone who is really so does not need to pretend and be obnoxious about it.
And Juice, my goodness, this is a guy who has really learned!
And HoHoHoDetwaah, sorry, but Jestrite50 is TUSCL's undisputed Master Womanizer. He is the one who has figured out what most guys don't even begin to understand. He gets out of the interactional box which the strip clubs and some of the girls try to lock you into. His rough outline should be mandatory reading for everyone here. Not that it is a 'System', it simply shows you how to be yourself with awesome young hotties. A guy's head has got to be 95% bone mass for him not to get what Jestrite50 is saying.
SJG
Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - A Night In Tunisia - 1958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IQNPlnc…
Yeah, JS enjoys this type of line, so maybe he can say it without it coming off completely contrived. I find this style of talk, along with opening with how much money you'll pay, and nearly everything else JS usually says (the soliloquy about being normal and understands how the game is played), just not me, and more than a little douchey, so I don't use it. That said, I think the only thing the girl is looking for is 1. a reasonable assurance she'll make bank, and 2. a reasonable assurance he is respectful and not creepy. I think JS succeeds mostly because of item #1 (they believe it when he says it), and the girls just get good at ignoring the PUA-type "I'm not like all the other guys, I know how the game is played" lines.
A feeling (real or imagined) that she will be safe.
That might come along with the creep factor, but that could cover a lot of things.
SJG
Miles Davis - So What
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqNTltOG…
Maybe you club in a place where every stripper in every club will fuck any dude who walks through the door. I don't. And if you think a wad of cash and good looks don't make even a little difference, you're a fool.
In addition, I'm not generally interested in the high volume ones, but prefer the lower volume ones, even if they aren't as good looking as the top tier girls who are waiting on Christian Gray's less demanding brother, and won't give us fat, ugly guys the time of day.
FWIW, I don't think I need to be someone other than who I am to "score." I learned a fairly long time ago that putting up a facade that *might* be more desirable to *some* strippers isn't worth my time, as there are plenty of them who don't have any problem at all with the real me, and also fall well within my "desirable" range.
Jest ! Jest ! Jest !
Jest ! Jest ! Jest !