Desperation
rickdugan
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I just received this text the other night from a girl I saw OTC a couple of times.
"I hope i did not upset you last time I saw you .. If i was difficult I apologize I promise I won't drink that much prior too again ..I swear ....once again i apologize"
This girl, like another one a gave a few chances to recently, was just not good. It is too bad as she was hot, with a pretty face, spinner body and a nice plump ass, Thank goodness I have a couple in the rotation who are very good, including a great new one.
Idk though, anyone think a girl who sends a text like this might be a possible redemption possibility? The problem wasn't the fact that she was drunk, but that she gave a mediocre BJ and didn't like to do certain things. Maybe she is now desperate enough to provide a more fulsome experience?
"I hope i did not upset you last time I saw you .. If i was difficult I apologize I promise I won't drink that much prior too again ..I swear ....once again i apologize"
This girl, like another one a gave a few chances to recently, was just not good. It is too bad as she was hot, with a pretty face, spinner body and a nice plump ass, Thank goodness I have a couple in the rotation who are very good, including a great new one.
Idk though, anyone think a girl who sends a text like this might be a possible redemption possibility? The problem wasn't the fact that she was drunk, but that she gave a mediocre BJ and didn't like to do certain things. Maybe she is now desperate enough to provide a more fulsome experience?
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On a serious note, some PLs have a healthy rotation of girls (you) and some strippers do not have a whole lot of PLs so go to (her). It appears she didn't take your date too seriously and now regrets it because I'm hindsight she probably realizes a P4P date is easy money.
You said she's hot, so maybe give her another chance, but it sounds like she had restrictions (I don't do this I don't do that) and I'm willing to bet most of those restrictions will still be there.
Also, if she gave a shitty BJ drunk, I doubt she would give a better one sober. I tend to think when girls are drunk they are more wild in bed.
I would give her another chance but tell her what you didn't like about the experience. She will either try hard and make it a grand slam event... .or she will say that she still doesn't do those things you wish for her to do and then you can walk away. Or let her try to sell you on a good time.
either way you can still try to have a good time with a hot piece of ass.
I would give it another go.
twentyfive +20
SJG
I'm sure that was meant as constructive criticism
I would think a girl like-that that admits she's not up to snuff might be willing to learn, but I don't think you (Rick) are the type to have the time nor patience to be a trainer?
I'm also one of those that buys into the school of thought that hot chicks are often not as goon in bed - as w/ anything else being good in bed may have nature and nurture components (some people are just born good at something and others become good at it thru necessity or practice).
IMO often times in life in general for some people things come easy to them so they are not as used to working-hard for stuff nor applying themselves when they need to go beyond their natural gifts - e.g. good-looking chicks are used to receiving (attention; etc) and not giving and they may not know how to go the extra-mile when need be - thus my unscientific opinion that good-looking chicks tend to not to be as good in bed (understanding that this is not universal b/c nothing is except death and taxes).
It's worth another shot; but it sounds she doesn't have it in her particularly since most people get less inhibited when drunk rather than the other way around; but not everyone reacts to alcohol the same way.
I think it best to operate more by a Mistress System, where there usually will be maintenance money, but not actually paying for sex. So you know the woman, it is not just expecting her to deliver on call.
SJG
I'm sure that was meant as constructive criticism"
I didn't recognize it as criticism.
Thanks to everyone else for the input. Truth be told, my feelings about it are as mixed as the opinions posted by all of you. But given the other better options I have, I'm probably going to pass on a third attempt. I recently gave another chick a third shot and attempt #3 was no better than the first two. I also have just enough humanity left not to want to leverage a girl's desperation to get her to do what she doesn't really want to do - but just barely. ;)
I accept that.
;)
SJG
SJG
Last night I was with a girl in Cincinnati and she wasn't the best but I made up for it. By the time I was done with her she had gotten off 4 or 5 times and she was shot. She told me "you are good" We were at her house so I left and went back to my hotel. About an hour later she texted me and wanted me to come back and fuck her again it was so good.
SJG
SJG
I say that that is the right way and the best way!
SJG
Second, Rick, I'd also be tempted to tell her "it wasn't the drinking, it was the fact that you didn't seem to be into it. You didn't want to do some of the stuff that I want. That's perfectly ok, everybody has preferences and stuff they don't like."
The thing that has always bothered me about rickdugan is the stuff about hoping these girls' lives take a turn for the worse. It is a one thing to say that you're going to try to get the best deal you can, it is another thing entirely to hope that an addict backslides so you can save money. One is normal human behavior and the other is pure d-baggery!
I've decided that he is largely a serial exaggerator. Maybe he actually goes strip clubs and whores around, but I think that about 10% of what he says is actually true. His stories are so over the top. They are always "I had problem X but I couldn't solve it because of problem Y which was further complicated by stupid activity Z and by the way I was driving around totally drunk!"
What normal person would actually behaves that way?
It's in the VIP.
"Desperation"
"When they feel"
"When they plead"
All three have the same goofy theme: @Dugan's paying for sex, yet these dancers find him irresistible and they're desperate to have him back. In his minds eye, @Dugan's not a john paying for sex. Instead he's a rich, irresistible, well-dressed, stud, notching yet another gorgeous beauty on his belt. It's clearly his identity.
It's not so much predatory as it is goofy, and it largely defines TUSCL: Grown men going to strip clubs and coming here to brag about paying hookers for sex.
Today, I plan to be using Strip Clubs and AMPs while on the road, but I still won't be treating girls like prostitutes. If I session with them, then I will also be extending the offer of regular outside liaisons, and then introducing her to my friends and offering her involvement in other non-sexual business ventures.
SJG
AMPs are no more likely to get busted than Strip Clubs are. And even if one is there when a bust happens, doesn't mean the cops can have anything on them.
And besides, now I'm really only interested in knowing girls on the outside.
SJG
As some may know NPD is a close neighbor to anti-social personality disorder, and, true, to form, RickyBoy has many of those traits, although I doubt he would get the diagnosis as a full blown sociopathy (for example the guilt he feels for his failures in life seem to pre-empt that. And he has a very strange notion of "ethics" as opposed to an absence. E.g. the rule he has about forcing him to stay in a strip club for at least two hours so he can do a review.)
The predatory natural and bragging about it is the anti-social (sociopathic) traits at work. At the same time, I like to call "dipshit predatory". "dipshit" because it's a given that when you offer enough girls in strip clubs cash for sex some will say yes and it doesn't matter who you are. But it's the confirmation bias and narcissism that convinces him that he has accomplished something significant in the "predator" department.
SJG
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