OT: The Worst Presidental Canidate

I like her because she has the potential to take some of the Bernie supporters away from the sickly ice queen.

2 to 3% at the moment.

If you believe the news today Hillary will probably be dead by November anyway.

One can only hope

Worst would probably be George Wallace, with Trump running a close second.

Hillary's health will probably be a major story going forward. Both candidates are pretty old and should release their health records.

...and Gary Johnson probably takes more votes away from Clinton than Stein.

Worst would Stein, with Clinton running a close second. Releasing health records would be a violation of HIPPA, but it would be reasonable to expect any candidate to be honest regarding any significant chronic (or acute) medical conditions. ESPECIALLY those affecting their ability to govern.

Regarding Jill Stein, that dopey bitch never read the book or watched the movie, but UBL could have been taken alive if he were not firing an AK at the sailors attempting to capture him.

A candidate can voluntarily decide to release their health records. Anyone with a reasonable level of reading comprehension understands this.

I thought this would have been a thread about George Wallace. Disappointed.

Jill Stein is about as dopey as Ben Carson. pseudo-scientists. Bah.

Ms. Stein's platform is pretty hard to get behind to say the least. She practically makes Mr Sanders look normal in comparison, IMO !!

WRT the college thing. I'd rather see secondary education (grades 9-12) get revamped so that "high school" is now "college". For people not wanting that track, maybe fork them out or filter them out into vocational trade schools. That's the only way free-coillege makes sense to me. 4 years of high school was a waste. I always felt school was too slow until I hit college anyway. Sink or swim.

Free college makes no sense at all. Not everyone is destined to be a lawyer, doctor, engineer, or business leader. America needs blue collar workers -skilled and unskilled. Collective bargaining should be allowed, but not unions.
The problem is not only too many people trying to get into college, but there are too many colleges, period; especially the for profit college corporations.

Ben Carson may be dopey, but he invented surgical techniques that are still ahead of their time and is everything that Obama is not.

Calling Ben Carson dopey shows a staggering lack of information and understanding. Personality and political disagreement aside, the man is a world-class neurosurgeon. Not the least bit qualified to be president (nor are Trump and Clinton), but part of an elite group of brain doctors. I think the last person in the race who actually had some qualification to be POTUS was (smh) Jeb Bush. I don't like him or his policies, but he was the last one of the group to actually have had executive experience.

I was surprised that Jeb Bush didn't do better in the primaries.

Jeb Bush never should have run. It gave the impression that he felt he was entitled, always having been considered more competent than his brother George. He also failed to run on his record as governor of Florida, which was quite successful. Finally, his and Trump's proposals were very different - immigration, defense, etc, and voters chose Trump, God help us.

OP writes:
1. She would not have killed Bin Laden but instead bringhim here to put on trial.
2. Capture terrorists and put them on trial for crimes against humanity.
3. Forgive $1.5 trillion in student debt.
4. No fossil fuels by 2030.
5. Drastically cut defense budget and pour it into education.
Yeah, great, all these are awesome in theory . . .

NO, these are terrible ideas in both theory *and* practice! This is like that hoary old platitude "Socialism [or Marxism] is great in theory but . . ." NO, socialism [or Marxism] sucks in both theory and practice. Socialism is an attempt to achieve heaven on earth, what the old National Review conservatives called "immanentizing the eschaton". Bah!

As for who is the worst of the current sorry crop of candidates, I will reveal my hand by quoting two captioned pictures on my office door:
"The real problem with the upcoming election is one of them is going to win." -- under a picture of Will Ferrell as Ron Burgundy
"Trump or Hillary? Top socket or bottom socket?" -- above and below a picture of a little boy holding a fork and deciding which plug of a two-plug electrical outlet to stick it into.

It was Margaret Thatcher who said the problem with Socialism as that eventually you run out of other peoples' money.

I am hoping against hope that Gary Johnson polls at 15% or higher soon so that he can join the "major-party" candidates on the debate stage. Who made up that 15% number, anyway? The only third-party presidential candidate to exceed 15% in a general election in the last century was Ross Perot in 1992. Why not 5%? In every presidential election *ever*, a 5% threshold would weed out all but one or two candidates beyond the Republican and the Democrat. I would like to see Jill Stein up there, too, if only to illustrate the lunacy of the extreme left to a nationwide audience.

Jill Stein and her party are a bit to the left of Bernie Sanders. So I agree with what she is saying. Her platform is good.

I do though want people to vote for Clinton so that Donald Trump cannot win. But after that we can work at state and local level to push things in a more progressive direction.

SJG

I miss Ronald Reagan. As much as I dislike quotes being mistaken for knowledge, consider his following ideas and our current national conditions:
Governments first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives.
If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.
We must reject the idea that every time a law is broken, society is guilty rather than the law-breaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.
We should measure welfare's success by how many people leave it, not by how many are added.

I also liked that Mr. Reagan seemed to work and accept and demand compromise from Congress.

Well make a great American out of you yet, Dominic.

"FEEL THE JOHNSON" Best campaign slogan EVER!!!

By the way it is HIPAA. It isn't a violation if she okays the release.

I'm voting for Juice as a write in.

I dont hate those policies but think she's a terrible candidate.

Trump may be worse.

"Freshly Squeezed Juice Will Make America Great Again"

Our societal system guarantees that more and more people will be added to welfare. This will only start to change if we provide more opportunities to use the full talents of our people.

SJG

Thanks, GammaNu. I am in fact hoping you guys and gals rub off on me. ;). Haha.

jill Stein sounds like a real winner. #sarcasm

My take is there isn't a single presidential candidate worth a damn this year but of the 2 that have a chance of winning the anyone but Clinton mantra comes into play for me.

Jill Stein wants to be a bit to the left of Bernie Sanders, who is just a bit to the left of the Democratic Party Center. But none of them would even register with European Socialists, because that means having at least a portion of the economic sector publicly owned.

We need Clinton to win, so we need her health to hold out and we need to be there to vote for her.

Our society is based on the premise that we can waste the talents of most of our people, like industrialization and automation make our people unnecessary. We need to learn to see through this and start making ways that our people's talents will be used.

And by the way in the organization I am building, everyone will be involved in life long supervised independent study. We will do our best to fix it so that everyone will be getting undergrad and grad degrees for this through an accredited American institution. And the cost for this is very little. But no matter, everyone will be doing it. Most of it will be book learning. But not all of it as not everyone takes well to book learning.

SJG