I never understood some of the people that attend convenience stores. I mean when I'm out on the road traveling, hell yes I use them, and sometimes I just need a cold fountain drink so I'll go in when I'm filling up my gas tank.
But these meth heads that are buying a bag of chips and a 2 liter of Mountain Dew for $12, don't they realize they can buy all that for $3 at the Wal-Mart that's 300 feet from the C-Store?
Some strip clubs are also pool halls. But in general strip clubs get more negative scrutiny. So around here, the operators are much more careful about keeping stuff in bounds. And no parking lot activities of any type whatsoever.
But so no, the allegation of causing crime is wrong. There is no inside vs outside interaction.
Some also make that about Viet Coffee Shops, and it is completely unfounded.
And in San Jose the neighborhood crime and prostitution argument was used to oppose the opening of the San Jose Gold Club. Future Mayor Sam Liccardo was in on it. But the argument was unfounded.
I look at the OP's article, it is just that some do not like strip clubs. Well using that to try to run them out is asking the government to violate the First Amendment.
Most enforcement against the sex trade is of that nature, trying to close businesses with zero evidence of illegality, just because some are bothered by the fact that such things exist.
Here, Intolerance 1916. See "The Uplifters", an obvious pun.
"When women get too old to attract men, they often turn to Reform."
And yes, convenience stores may draw crime. They even have these high measuring strips for the cameras. But the reason that they draw crime is just because they are the only thing open at night. So people are not campaigning to close them down.
Jim and Artie Mitchell had to contend with these Victorian era, "Red Light Abatement Laws", where the city could close their theater based in the decision of a judge in a civil proceeding.
If you ask me, this is what is going on right now in Greenville SoCar, and I've tried to explain this.
Finally the Calif Supreme Court, headed by Rose Bird, ruled those laws unconstitutional and decided that if any such closure were to happen, it would have to be treated like a criminal matter and they would be entitled to a jury trial.
I don't believe that a well represented defendant would suffer such a closure if decided by a jury. But most of the time, that is still what cities do, close the business in a bench hearing.
Very few people have the courage that Jim and Artie showed, standing up to the authorities and never capitulating, while at the same time hiring excellent counsel.
And Jim and Artie always had the press on their side. They would never describe dancers as a social menace like the SoCar press has. The newspapers instead made horrible fun of the police, calling them the Pussy Posse.
Now that was San Francisco, very different in San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties.
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I never understood some of the people that attend convenience stores. I mean when I'm out on the road traveling, hell yes I use them, and sometimes I just need a cold fountain drink so I'll go in when I'm filling up my gas tank.
But these meth heads that are buying a bag of chips and a 2 liter of Mountain Dew for $12, don't they realize they can buy all that for $3 at the Wal-Mart that's 300 feet from the C-Store?
LOL - that was meant for the Chris Brown thread
But so no, the allegation of causing crime is wrong. There is no inside vs outside interaction.
Some also make that about Viet Coffee Shops, and it is completely unfounded.
And in San Jose the neighborhood crime and prostitution argument was used to oppose the opening of the San Jose Gold Club. Future Mayor Sam Liccardo was in on it. But the argument was unfounded.
I look at the OP's article, it is just that some do not like strip clubs. Well using that to try to run them out is asking the government to violate the First Amendment.
Most enforcement against the sex trade is of that nature, trying to close businesses with zero evidence of illegality, just because some are bothered by the fact that such things exist.
Here, Intolerance 1916. See "The Uplifters", an obvious pun.
"When women get too old to attract men, they often turn to Reform."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo66cJqE…
And yes, convenience stores may draw crime. They even have these high measuring strips for the cameras. But the reason that they draw crime is just because they are the only thing open at night. So people are not campaigning to close them down.
SJG
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SJG + 10. Insightful and covered a lot of ground. Thanks for the post.
If you ask me, this is what is going on right now in Greenville SoCar, and I've tried to explain this.
Finally the Calif Supreme Court, headed by Rose Bird, ruled those laws unconstitutional and decided that if any such closure were to happen, it would have to be treated like a criminal matter and they would be entitled to a jury trial.
I don't believe that a well represented defendant would suffer such a closure if decided by a jury. But most of the time, that is still what cities do, close the business in a bench hearing.
all explained here:
https://www.amazon.com/Bottom-Feeders-Fr…
Very few people have the courage that Jim and Artie showed, standing up to the authorities and never capitulating, while at the same time hiring excellent counsel.
And Jim and Artie always had the press on their side. They would never describe dancers as a social menace like the SoCar press has. The newspapers instead made horrible fun of the police, calling them the Pussy Posse.
Now that was San Francisco, very different in San Mateo and Santa Clara Counties.
SJG
MJQ MODERN JAZZ QUARTET: LIVE IN JAPAN 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4ZWw9X2…