Baaahaaahaahaaa!!! I knew your dumbass would look. Of course no will ever really know. So hit the back key quick. Why did you read this thread? Because when you look in the mirror you know what you are. You can't live with the truth. So you come here and make up your own reality. Whether you try to convice us all that you really aren't ugly or that you really could date a dancer. Either way no one is buying it. Any response acknowledging you lies is only sarcasm at its best. About me.... Yes I do own a club. So stop killing yourself worrying about it. It makes great money and I don't even have to be there. It's in Detroit. Now, since most of you would only show pure cowardice when it comes to hardcore cities like the Motor City the rest doesn't matter. Michigan has more stripclubs that practically any other state. Anyone with half a brain, and good lawyer can own one. So go and get your own and stop worrying about mine. You didn't just read all of that did you?
At last but not least, my thread ALL DANCERS ARE WHORES NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY was erased but will never be forgotten. It opened many eyes and annoyed those who refuse to face reality. It lasted over a year and had over 400 posts. Half the posts where from Yoda but so what. Good luck to all you. Remember. Just because you are a loser doesn't mean you can't change. I know what you are now. Many of you will always be losers. I have never spent money in clubs the way some of you fools do. Would you rather own the casino or be a dumb gambler? Goodnite gamblers.
Someone ask WiseGuy when his last conviction was. Ask him how many times he's been arrested. If he's truthful be prepared sit down. Very appalling how and why he's even out in the free world.
TopGeekGlenn you never cease to amaze me. You'll make a great detective someday. Until then, go change your underwear because you get so excited from your own posts that you cum in your pants. No one cares about geeks like you. You're a geek, your dad's a geek and your mom's a whore. It's understandable that typing posts in these forums helps you to deal with mommy sleeping with all the neihbor kids. You need us. Without this board you wouldn't exist. Just another nobody. So I'll let you get back to your pathetic life.
January 13th was a Tuesday, and your post was at almost 6.p.m. If you own a club in Detroit, what the hell are you doing wasting your time on a stipper site when you should be down on the job, running the show? If you do work in a club, it's as the toilet bowl janitor...so go clean up the mess...and no tip for you...Heheheh...
WiseGay, some employees told me a weird guy came in looking for the owner tonight. Was that you? I know your a stalker. You email me and follow me around this board.
WiseGay do you write these comments while standing up? Because someone named Bob pounded you in the ass? Is this why it doesn't matter to you that females find you repulsive? The only pussy remembered is that of your mothers for last week? You suck your dads cock still whenever you visit him. No one cares about. Not even your twisted and sick family. Go back to where people are familiar with what you need. A dick in the mouth or a spank from time to time to keep you happy. Do you still associate blowjobs with getting good grades in school? It's too bad they made you do that. I hope you get help someday. It's not your fault that sucking cock is what you are comfortable with. It really isn't.
Kingpussy, you really need to find a new angle to get me worked up. A bunch of one liner made up insults consisting of a 7th graders over use (16) of the words "you" and "your" with 5 references to gay activities makes me wonder ...what club are you a regular where you "hear these (gay) things all the time"?
I've been away busy for the last few days and I see people are heeding the knowledge in the this thread. This thread has served it's purpose. Glad to see that some of you have opened your eyes to see the ill intentions dancers have and how pathetic being a regular is. Recognizing those things is what separates the boys from the men.
The only point continiung to be made is that Kingpin is a clueless hater with no real life accept for the one he makes-up everytime he posts. It makes for some humorous story-telling but that's about it!
Yoda that may be what you see. But then again you are in denial of being a complete loser who pays twenty dollars for cheap conversation. There is no doubt in anyones eyes that you aren't capable of obtaining the presence of any woman without a fee. Don't hate me. Hate your parents for providing a fucked up gene pool in which you have been created from and now all you are worthy of is going back and forth between stripclubs and stripclub forums. Why don't you just stop this nonsense and show a picture of yourself so that we can all fell sorry for you and leave you alone?
WiseGay, you're in the wrong forum. There are many gay sites that you'll find entertaining. Only an admittedly gay person would speak of such well known gay terms such as "top" or "bottom". I hear these things in the club all the time. My bartender, who is gay, just read your post and said he could tell that you're gay. I was just joking previously. But I feel better now that I know the hame really fits.
(JimJazz take note on this one) ...Kingpenny i wondered if that topic would have significant meaning to you. Care to explain why and how you know your bartender is gay?
What kind of club are you a regular where you "hear these things all the time"? I never hear it in the strip clubs i frequent.
Got Damnit!!! Another fucking stalker!!! Yoda Yoda Yoda!!! Please tell all of us why you want my email? I had to remove it because Jizzhead kept emailing me sweet nothings. Yoda you'd have no reason to email me. I have no tolerance for weak men like yourself. Put the twinkie down and listen. I DON'T WANT YOUR EMAILS!!! So stop looking for it. See how these preditors are? Be careful guys. Yoda, WiseGay and Jizzhead aren't biased when it comes to stalking. They don't care if has tits or four legs. Be very careful of these guys!
Jungleman you have some great questions. Why aren't I encouraging you to go? Because I don't have to. You go because you are weak and have no girlfriend. It has nothing to do with what I tell you. Have a blast and spend lots of money. Even though I love making the money I do, I find myself shaking my head everynight at you idiots. When my close friends visit and try to hangout all night. I kick them out and tell them this isn't the place for them. I tell them that if they want to hangout I'll take them to a "regular" bar. Would you let your best friend spend all of his money at your casino? Maybe some of you self-serving idiots would. The only loyalty most of you have is the one to your bad habits. What a shame.
Rayanna why do you think your opinion matters? I think you know the truth. But you don't want to look bad here. It is obvious you are wiping your chin as we you read this. You remind me of this dancer I knew who had sex with various family members and didn't think twice of it. You come here and post some name that you assume we will think is cool. Really, in two sentences I could tell you let just about anyone stick their finger in your bum and then you suck on it. You have no class whatsover. If you did you'd be too much of lady have knowledge of slut tactics like you were more than likely taught by a close family member. If you think anyone here will praise because you let people finger you ( I don't know what those guys are thinking ) then think again. To me it doesn't matter if you give five dollar blowjobs. The fact is that it matters to you. God bless you and all the sluts like you. Because without you how in the hell would so many regulars get sucked in. Literally!!!!
Kingpenny and Veracious, it must be humiliating for you to wake up everyday and think about a woman's world (strip club) which has absolute power and control over your thoughts.
I guess I would be a regular because I go to a club about at least once a month. If I go more it’s a random thing. I decided to check my finances on this....because according to Kingpin I should be a broke loser wishing for a girlfriend that I'm somehow buying for money.
After a quick check I have come up with these conclusions.
One - I'm not broke. Probably has something to do with the fact I went to college. Earned a degree in Computer Programming and got a job.
Two - When I go to a club I don't take my money out and throw it around like confetti like you assume I must do.
Three - I don't have a girlfriend. Now the question is am I trying to buy one? No. That’s just sad. A dancer actually asked me for my phone number and I haven't given it to her. Why? Because it’s possible that in fact she does only want my money. Did I ever make any advances or ask her? No. BTW, I don't want your opinion on this so keep it to yourself. Even though I'm sure you won't.
BTW, I also want to know why you bother to post all this? Why does it really matter to you? If you are a club owner you should be encouraging me to go. You should be saying I love the regulars. Great people even though you secretly hate them for whatever demented reason. That’s of course you really own on in which matter I really don't give a damn.
Ok last post gotta run dinner is at 7 and I gotta get home and shower. KingPin stop telling lies- I never emailed you you fucking freak- there you go with your lies again (and using the same one as one of your other personality GMP) if I am emailing you go ahead and report me to the police- I fucking dare you freak! Ok thats it- I'll be back tomorrow to poke more fun at your lies.
Yoda I could never be the joke you are. You are admitted to being a regular. You are beyond loser material. In fact all loser salute you. You are the template for becoming a loser and if it weren't for you, many wouldn't really know what true loser is. So while you sit in your fruit-of-the-loom panties and scratch your head in amazement as to were all your money has vanished to, I'll be smiling at you all the way to the bank. You're on the wrong side pal. Kinda like being a Casino owner or a gambler. Opps! You are a gambler! You keep gampling with you money in hopes that eventually it will bring you more than a dancer telling you that she needs a thousand for the rent she'd have if it wasn't for caring for her sick mother. They can always count on a sucker like you to pull through. That 401k sure isn't as big as it used to be. You did realize the penalties for early withdrawls when you met that dancer. Didn't you? How you bring yourself to waste money on dancers when you need liposuction so bad is beyond the common sense that god gave a groundhog. You're incredible Yoda. You amaze us all. Cheers to you, you dumb broke fatass.
Stripclubs that don't exist, emails that don't exist...it just goes an and on with you Kingpin doesn't it. It's obvious at this point you are just a compulsive liar. Fortunately for those of us with real lives and functioning brains, we are able to see you for exactly what you are , a joke!
Kingpin, JJ's stalker-like posts remind of a previous poster calling themselves something like..."Six figures"...or something similar. This "six figure" persona was obviously suffering from an obsessive-compulsive personality disorder and was eventually exposed as a deranged person (possibly as stripper) and was even threatened with law suits, etc. by those who exposed her. Don't let JJ suck you into his/her psychopathic world. He/she could be posting from a ward in a psychiatric hospital. Debating JJ is a waste of time
Complete BULLSHIT- I just went around your attempt to make it a personal insult fest. You attacked me- whom you don't know a single thing about. A wonderful young lady ( my g/f) who you know nothing about. Its crap and nothing more than a lousy attempt to deflect the real subject matter. Answer the extreemly simple question "Mike"-- that is IF you can.LMFAO!!! Anyone who owned a club could answer those questions and yet you can't. What does that prove? Oh just that you are lying about owning a club. If you are telling the truth then answer these EXTREEMLY simple questions: what kind of club is it- topless or nude or bikini ? Does the club serve alcohol or not ? What kinds of permits did you have to obtain to open the club? What kinds of permits do you have to maintain to stay open? What are the laws regarding stripclubs in that area?
Jizzhead you are out of your league. Your girlfriend is a slut. And if she's make believe then she's still a slut because you dream of hookers. You can attempt to side-step my ability to read between the lines if want. But it appears others can do it also. Your father probably touched you incorrectly when you were young and now you long for any type of attention you can get. I don't love you fool! Get off my dick! I feel like you're a got damned stalking fan of mine that I can't shake. Stop emailing me telling me that you aren't really serious and that you admire me but don't want to look like an idiot posting it here. In the past posts you often reference my real name. It's like you just can't understand I'm not your friend. I'm sorry pal but I can't give you the help you really need. Stop emailing me your sweet little emails and stop following me around like a little lost puppy dog. I'm afriad to tell you the name of my club because I know you'll show up. I tried to help you but you refuse to acknowledge that your mind is much weaker than you realized. I don't like to see my fellow man get suckered into self-worthlessnes. But damn! Some of you really look for it.
If you keep campaigning for sucker of the year, eventually you'll get elected. Just ask Yoda and WiseGay. They are CEO and co-chairperson for "Sucker of the year" award. Every damn year!!!! And its an elected position. Go figure. Hehehehe
The post from varacious is proof to you who throw your money away that not all men are fools. There are many men who read these post and come to the correct conclusion. Yoda, WiseGay, Jizzhead and a couple others are unable to grasp common knowledge or lack the self-descipline to exercise it. To all others open your mind not your wallet.
Jizzhead your last two comments were so weak that I'm ruling you out for debate. It's obvious you were stunned by the authenticity of my desription of your very essence. As you wiped your sweaty palms you decided to type something to try and defend what little self-worth you think you have. And Jizzy..... you choked buddy. I am convinced that I've not only called you out with precise accuracy. But that you're also a a boy who hasn't reached manhood. I apologize for whatever insluts I have given, which may prevent you from reaching manhood out of sheer frustration. I am clearly out of your league and I urge you to stop playing on these boards before your feelings get hurt. If you keep looking, someone, somewhere, will love you. I am the Rotweiler that just ripped your little poodle ass a much bigger hole.
Kingpin is not alone in his INSIGHT! - and, I'm not KINGPIN.
Message FOR NEWBIES (and, unfortunately, for some naive veterans as well) – that is, for those guys who are about to go to a strip club for the first time there are some things you need to know. Some on this Board will attack these rules, but they either make their living in strip clubs and/or are junky customers – that is, pathetic losers hopelessly addicted to strip clubs. Some men can’t create satisfying relationships with women without buying their female companionship – it’s disgusting, but true. Others will claim I’ve been “burned” by a stripper – NOT TRUE! All monies I have paid strippers have been for clear-cut R-rated services, clearly negotiated ahead of time – and not a penny more. I caught on to the stripper MO very early, but some of my friends didn’t – they were not so lucky. BUT, they became believers of the RULES FOR NEWBIES, after they got burned.
Ignore the detractors of the NEWBIE RULES, because they don’t have YOUR BEST INTERESTS in mind. Know, understand, and be guided by these rules and, while you’re in the strip club, you will be in control of your emotions and money at all times. With the NEWBIE RULES you will be OK!!
1st RULE) STRIPPERS ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN YOUR MONEY. With that single purpose some practice their trade with some sensitivity, but many (THE GREEDY ONES AND FOR WHO THESE RULES ARE ABOUT) couldn’t care less about your feelings. It’s very hard to tell the difference between the two types; since, many strippers are well-practiced con artists. To keep you buying more and more lap dances, many will feign or insinuate romantic interest in you. For this act, they use the glorified euphemistic term -- “fantasy.” They “believe” you actually want this “fantasy,” and they do it “TO OWN YOU” as a customer - that is, to get all your business and money. DON’T BELIEVE OR FALL FOR THE COME-HITHER BULLSHIT.
Lovesick, self-deluded men desperately want to believe this “fantasy,” but it is important that it is extremely rare (essentially unheard of) for strippers to have a significant romantic hook-up with any customer. Likewise, don’t try to hustle a stripper; because, more likely, you’ll be the one who gets hustled, when she gets into you head and starts asking you for help with the rent, to buy dresses, to get her a car stereo, cover car payments, etc. IF MONEY IS NEEDED TO MAKE THE RELATIONSHIP WORK, THE RELATIONSHIP IS BULLSHIT – GET OUT ASAP. Don’t be naïve enough to think you’re going to be different, become a boyfriend, and/or get laid – you won’t – YOU’LL JUST BECOME ANOTHER ONE OF HER VICTIMS! YOU CANNOT BUY LOVE WITH MONEY OR COMPLIMENTS – don’t even try!!
Strippers deal with dozens of men everyday – they’re experts at the stripper game!! The bottom-line is that they are not interested in you as a friend or boyfriend – YOU’RE ONLY AN INCOME SOURCE. Don’t put strippers onto a pedestal. The more a customer worships and idealizes a stripper, the more the stripper will think he’s a FOOL and mock him behind his back. Indeed, THE CUSTOMER WHO FALLS FOR THIS CRAP IS LETTING HIS NEEDINESS, LUST (“ENGORGED DICK & ISCHEMIC DYSFUNCTIONAL BRAIN”), AND OVER-INFLATED EGO OVER-POWER HIS GOOD SENSE. Any customer who allows himself to become a CHUMP deserves to be fleeced! – especially, if the customer has read these rules.
2nd RULE) Don’t feel obligated to pay strippers anything, except maybe a dollar tip, after their stage strip. Strippers are hardly dancers in the true sense. Many in the industry will promote the idea that taking off one’s clothes in a dark bar filled with swollen prostates automatically qualifies one as an artist, or at least a sex worker, rather than a stripper or, heaven forbid, a R-RATED HOOKER. Obviously, taking off your clothes doesn’t make you an artist any more than taking a shit does. Sure, I realize that even a sanitation worker is capable of performing his job with some measure of grace and nobility -- but he’s still a trash man [whoops, sorry a “sanitation engineer”]. Likewise, you can pick your nose with a certain degree of style and finesse -- but you’re still picking your nose (at least wipe the little “treasures” on a handkerchief).
If you decide on buying lap dances, wait for the specific stripper you find attractive. Then, if she gives you satisfying and entertaining dances, continue; but otherwise, if things are not going well, stop ASAP. MAKE HER EARN HER PAY! – she’s working for you! You don’t have to tip. Except for the lap dances she performed for you, you owe her nothing. Know that she believes she owes you nothing beyond what you’re buying. Again, do not put strippers on a pedestal; IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY SHE ALREADY THINKS YOU’RE A SOMEWHAT VULGAR, LOW-LIFE NERDY GEEK ANYWAY -- OTHERWISE, WHY ARE YOU IN A STRIP CLUB BUYING COMPANIONSHIP? Also, keep close track of the number of lap dances, because SOME STRIPPERS WILL OVER CHARGE YOU. Keep control of your wallet at all times.
Women, who strip, have debased their natural talents and sell sexual favors for money, and meet the dictionary definition of prostitute. The proper customer attitude in dealing with them is to consider them as R-rated providers (prostitutes), wherein all interactions are determined by an exchange of money and, thus, negotiated for a price. Strippers have nothing else to offer customers – IN A STRIP CLUB EVERYTHING IS A SHORT-LIVED, SUPERFICIAL CROCK-OF-SHIT! It’s all about money, and it’s not going to be different for you.
3rd RULE) Don’t believe what strippers tell you, THEY ROUTINELY LIE, LIE, AND LIE; and then, turn around and LIE, LIE, AND LIE some more. (If you don’t believe this, see note below.) This is done for two main reasons. First, strippers are paranoid of stalkers and don’t want to reveal potentially exploitable details regarding where they live, go to school, etc. Second, OVER 90% HAVE BOYFRIENDS, HUSBANDS, AND/OR CHILDREN; and, if you find out they are not available, they believe it will spoil the so-called “fantasy” for you and decrease your interest in them and their profit. They are correct; many guys are turned-off by this. Thus, expect strippers to lie about their real name, where they live, where they go to school, their family/social lives, their future plans, and whether they are already romantically involved. Expect that they will not wear their wedding rings.
[Note: Quote from DDDancer (Colorado stripper)…"How do you refrain from calling a spade a spade? I don’t like the strong word LIE, but it is what we do. Our managers encourage us to. They coach us to have alternate identities to make us more interesting. Some of us are interesting anyway, so it’s a simple task, but other girls will make up going to collage, or being poets, hairstylists, peace corp. volunteers, etc., cause sitting at home all day until it’s time to work is not very interesting to a guy. They want a pretty picture of everything that surrounds you to build in their head."]
4th RULE) OFTEN, STRIPPERS ARE NOT NICE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO THEIR TREATMENT OF YOU – THE CUSTOMER! In their lives, as a customer, you will be placed in a special category of person. Just as prostitutes hate their “Johns,” strippers often resent and disdain their customers (yes, you’re a form of “John” too) -- who they don’t trust, don’t like, or find unattractive. Although they’ll never admit to it, MANY RESENT and DESPISE THEMSELVES FOR WHAT THEY MUST DO FOR YOU TO MAKE THEIR MONEY (e.g., expose their crotch in public, smell you ass, and rub your dick), AND THEY (NATURALLY) ASSOCIATE OR PROJECT THAT RESENTMENT and CONTEMPT ONTO YOU, THE CUSTOMER (don’t believe this - see NOTE #1 below). Some of the most mean-spirited, easily angered, vitriolic, and defensive people I’ve ever encountered have been strippers. DON’T EXPECT that they will look out for your feelings or best interests -- they won’t!
In fact, strippers often don’t like or trust other strippers. They are competitive and very catty with each other. STRIPPERS ROUTINELY BAD-MOUTH EACH OTHER. Many refuse to associate with other strippers; and, many will report that 80 to 90% of the other strippers have serious emotional and other “issues,” which strippers believe make them poor choices as romantic partners. Many strippers lead a certain “life style” characterized by abundant “partying,” which includes drug use and promiscuity with both sexes (bisexual activities are common among strippers)(see NOTE #2 below).
Moreover, it is interesting that many have inflated self images, consider themselves bona fide players (playettes), and very desirable beauties (yes, real girlfriend “catches”). BUT, YOU WILL FIND A BETTER CUT OF HUMANITY ALMOST ANYWHERE ELSE -- EVEN IN BARS! The vast majority of strippers are white trash with minimal job skills and even less character. Moreover, strippers are often self-centered, high maintenance people (some are bona fide psychopaths). Go elsewhere to find your serious romantic interests. Indeed, stripping is a lazy, cope-out type of occupation – just as the dictionary points out -- another form of prostitution.
[Note #1: This another very telling comment posted on the TUSCL Board by an anonymous stripper, and it reflects the negative attitude some strippers have toward customers. Here it is, "…but don't you know what people think of men who go to strip clubs? - PATHETIC and forever UNDESIRABLE! No woman has or will ever want you. Not physically, not emotionally, not spiritually, nothing - No one wants you. You have to pay for attention. You have to pay for conversation, and you have to pay to be touched or to touch. You have to pay for basic human experiences. You have to pay money, because nothing about you merits it besides money. A few, some, many, most (whichever way you want to look at it) strippers are using the money to better themselves and their families. They take something negative (you and your $$) and turn it into something useful and positive. What do you do with your strip club experience? NOTHING! Because that is all you are, all you have, all you will ever have – nothing. You all want us - you need us - us as people. Whether it is our bodies or our time, it is still us you want. We want money not you. Money is not part of you, it is something you have - it is a thing. No one wants you because of you."
Furthermore, here are the findings from a recent study, which can be accessed on the internet at Strip clubs According to Strippers: Exposing Workplace Sexual Violence by Ó’Kelly Holsopple, 1998, (this can be accessed on the internet at http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/str… ….”The women in this study condemn the men associated with stripping and the impact stripping has on them as the worst parts of stripping. Women do not like the way customers treat them (Thompson and Harred 1992). Furthermore they say they do not like talking to customers, asking men for money, and resent having to have to deal with them at all. They find customers irritating because they are drunk and have negative attitudes towards women. Women characterize customers as scum, psycho mama’s boys, rapists and child molesters, old perverted men, idiots, assholes, and pigs. Strippers are largely disgusted by customers and describe them as pitiful and pathetic, stupid and ignorant, sick, controlling and abusive. "They smell so sour, they breathe very heavy and kind of wheeze when women are near." "They are weak abusers who have to subordinate women and girls to feel like a man." "I see my dad. They’re old enough to be my father." "Yuck. I am repulsed by the sight, sound, smell, and touch of them." "I’m embarrassed for them." The women offer insightful evaluations of strip club customers. They say that these men do not know how to communicate. Moreover, they perceive that customers are out of control, have power and abuse problems, and will do anything to degrade women because they hate women. Strippers also state that customers want a free show and think women are cheap. In contrast, a few women positively perceived some customers as nice and added they are thankful to those who tip well….Clearly strippers’ attitudes about men are impacted by the activities in strip clubs. Women say they don’t like men and men are worthless. Likewise women believe stripping inhibits their ability to be involved in a normal relationship. "It affects your lovelife and feelings about men." "Nice boyfriends can’t handle it." "Too large a percentage of men fit into category of customer and I do not want to hate men.")
[NOTE #2: Question posed to DDDancer by poster calling himself Mouse, “I want to be sure we're on the same wavelength with this last issue. By libertine I mean a person who is unrestrained by convention or morality. This is something beyond being politically liberal. Let me rephrase the question - do you believe exotic dancers are more likely than the average women to experiment (i.e., in many things, not just sex), because they are essentially less restrained by convention or morality (i.e., as it's defined by current polite society)?
DDDancer’s response, “OH! My answer is yes! -- they dared to get on the stage to begin with, and most would probably be more comfortable with experimenting with lifestyles. Morality conforms to fit the physiological needs of the bearer. You wouldn't believe how many girls I know with different perspectives of what the Bible means to them, but the one thing that is common is they twist the meaning to whatever suits them. Dancers are very spontaneous people, who desire the opposite, but while in the business, spontaneity is really the only way to conform to customers to get the money from them, so of course it would overlap into their normal life at times. I also think most dancers would make excellent entrepreneurs, but not so good in business, unless properly trained or educated.”
Posted comment by “Darling Nikki” (stripper in Southern California) on Monday, October 20, 2003: ”I keep posting that Alexandria is a hottie -- cause she is, and Playboy agrees with me. Every girl at Cheetahs was a dirty dancer, whether they wanted to be or not. You could not make money unless there was some touching in your dances and that was breaking the law. No one has the right to bash Alexandria for that or any other girl. Miss XXX just recently started working again at Cheetahs during the night shifts. She has been identified so she doesn’t use that nick name anymore.
I do agree about the drug use – a lot of girls use drugs. Most of them use it while at work. I cant think of one stripper that hasn’t used drugs. Oh Well, that’s the life -- you have to have some experiences and live a little.
An anonymous poster responded (on Monday, October 20, 2003), “Thanks for the honesty!! Nikki, we admire your ability to tell the truth about the extensive drug use among strippers -- many, many (including the "super hotties" we're all reluctant to mention) have been high while we've been in buying dances. It was obvious. You can always tell when they’re on drugs, because something's not quite right in their eyes and behavior.”]
5th RULE) DON’T TELL STRIPPERS ANYTHING PERSONAL ABOUT YOURSELF. It’s none of their damn business, and they are likely to use personal information against you. Don’t bother giving them your business card, because they will throw it away or use it to hurt you later. Also, DON’T SHARE YOUR OPINIONS OF OTHER STRIPPERS WITH STRIPPERS, BECAUSE THEY WILL TELL THE OTHER STRIPPERS WHAT YOU SAID. Strippers talk, talk, and TALK, and then turn around and talk, talk, and TALK some more!
6th RULE) People will treat you the same way they treat themselves and those around them. Look at how strippers debase (R-rated prostitute) themselves for money (e.g., expose themselves, rub dicks, smell crotches, and lie routinely) - they will degrade you likewise! DON’T THINK YOU WILL BE SPECIAL -- YOU WON’T BE SPECIAL, JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR VICTIMS!! To many strippers, customers are hardly considered human, but rather as pathetic mindless animals (VICTIMS OR MARKS) to be fleeced of their money. In fact, strippers like to refer to customers as regulars in love (RILs), pathetic losers (PLs), and/or automatic teller machines (ATMs). Don’t let them turn you into a RIL, PL, or ATM.
FOR GOD’S SAKE, MAN! -- MAINTAIN SOME PRIDE, DIGNITY, AND SELF-RESPECT!! Don’t become just another one of their victims.
7th RULE) Finally, don’t spend money on strippers; it’s a waste of your hard-earned resources. If you do, it’s equal to flushing your money down the toilet. Don’t become a strip-club junky!! Spend your money on yourself (or your family) for self-improvement and greater life enjoyment -- your money will pay MUCH greater dividends that way!! Everything you can buy in a strip club can be obtained ESSENTIALLY FREE OUTSIDE of strip clubs! – YES, EVERYTHING!! YOU CAN LIVE EXTREMELY WELL WITHOUT STRIPPERS AND PROSTITUTES IN YOUR LIFE! -- BELIEVE IT and DO IT!!
Absolutly everything you just wrote is bullshit. Stop trying to deflect and just answer the questions- that is if you know any of the answers. What type of club is it that you own- toplesss or nude or bikini? Does it serve alcohol or not? What kinds of permits did you have to obtain to open the club ? What kinds of permits must you maintain to stay open?
btw the way anyone can see you were describing yourself in your last post. You'll answer the questions if you actually own a club and you won't if you don't, simple as that. The longer you con't to lie about owning a club and/or avoid answering the questions the more you look like a fake.
Jizzhead when walking down the street and crossing paths with a bum, do you give them the money they ask for? Or do you just keep on walking? Sometimes you see someone and you may want to give them a few quarters because they look peaceful. You are the aggresive bum that no one wants lurking at storefronts. Your only purpose is to prove that you are not a bum by trying to redirect focus. You can't. You are a loser. Your girlfriend is slut ( if you really have one ). She'll never tell you about all the cocks she's stroked and even sucked before kissing you on the lips ( if she even exist that is ). Why don't you post a picture of you and her together? Because there's no way in hell you are dating a dancer. You may have been on "date" with a hooker. But that's about it. I know your type. You're very ugly and your only sense of worth is trolling various forums. You bounce from forum to forum until someone either believes you or tells you to move the fuck on. You can't convince us that you have that special dancer friend so instead you try and denounce the business man you wish you could be. You are at the bottom of the sea. You are the goldfish that everyone ignores because you can't hold your own like the rest of the fish. At any given time you could be eaten. But most of the time you are left alone because you are so pathetic. Everyone once in a while you try and get attention how ever you can. Just like the class clown does. And you are promptly put back in your mediocore place. Sit down and shut the fuck up is something you hear often. It is because no one respects you. You are worthless to all except for the dancers, who with pity, take your money with a fuck you very much under that smile. Because no dancer could ever respect a man who pays to beg for something they would much rather freely give a guy who has his shit together. Jizzhead, Get your shit together before the sharks eat you buddy.
If you owned a club you'd be able to answer basic questions about the business like what the local laws are in regards to stripclubs. If you serve alcohol or not and what kind of permit you were required to obtain and keep active. You can't answer thes basic questions because you are lying KingPin. If you are telling the truth then you'd have answered the questions a long time ago.
WiseGay, how would it benefit me to give you any info about my club? The only reason it was made known in the pass was for reference on how corrupt the business and dancers are. Just like it doesn't benefit to share with oomplete strangers about your dancer girlfriend. That's why it has pretend written all over it. Does it help us to know you have a dancer girlfriend? NO! Do we even believe you? Not for a minute. Hahaha
Kingspin: If you want to take shots at me or others thats fine, it's an open message board. You keep speaking in the plural instead of the singulare here. Who is "WE"? I don't see any other posters agreeing with you.
"We" are the people who send me emails telling me to keep doing what I'm doing. Basically I am the teacher. Jizzhead and Big Belly Yoda are the class clowns. Everyone can read and appreciate the knowledge silently. Yoda and Jizzhead require the extra attention they don't get elsewhere. Just like the typical class clown. Some of us have bigger weaknesses than others. Being a regular at a stripclub is a huge weakness. It usually happens to men going through their mid-life crisis when self-esteem is at rock bottom. This can be dealt with in many different ways. The easiest and weakest is to turn to drugs or alcohol. Become a regular at a stripclub is almost a tie with the drugs and alcohol. But it falls short of first place because it can go undetected for years. Until you realize you have spent a shitload of money and have nothing to show for it. On the lighter side of things it can help ones ego. Because you may be in denial and convince your own mind that this dancer really likes you. That feeling, although it can make you wake-up in the morning with a smile, couldn't be further from the truth. How much are you willing to pay for some attention? Have you kept track of how much you've spent? Are you angry that you now realize you could have bought a nice 24ft. watercraft? Many dancers would jump at the chance to spend a day on one. While being drunk at that. When slipped into becoming a regular you made a very bad choice. Once you realize that you can still turn it all around.
If you own a club you'd be able to answer the questions about what kind of club it is: topless or nude or bikini. Also you'd be able to answer if it served alcohol or not. In addition you'd be able to answer the question about what permits you had to obtain and keep active. And you'd be able to answer the question about what the local laws are pertaining to stripclubs.
Kingpin: Maybe your imaginary club would be doing better, and you could be RICH(!!!) if you spent more time running it instead of posting your pointless crap here on TUSCL. I have to admit, you are the best fictional story teller to show up her since Grand Master Pimp left....
First of all, thanks Homer. I know that many guys read this and say to themselves "What the fuck am I thinking"? I don't want to be a damn regular at a stripclub. For every post that people like WiseGay and Yoda boy make ( to defend themselves ) there are many more who read silently and realize that giving a dancer money on a regular basis just means one thing. You have very low self-esteem.
Yoda, I don't know why you keep trying to convice yourself that you aren't a complete loser. You've admitted that you are a regular on many occassions and you can't take that back. We've taken note and you've been wearing the " I'm an idiot who throws his money away" t-shirt every since.
Like I said, owning a stripclub isn't very hard. I encourage more of you to go to the book store and buy a book on investing your money. The money you spend at a stripclub ( no matter how little that may be ) can add up to just enough to buy the finer things in life only a few years down the road.
The more power you have the more you will be attractive to females. I have a few rental properties and dancers are always looking for places to rent. If I had no other options, it would be very easy to have my way these dancers looking for a place to live. Although that wouldn't be very business smart, which is why I tend to stay away from that. If you do that they can assume you'll be giving them a free place.
Yoda is a hopeless fool and everyone realizes this. But the rest of you don't have to be. Invest the money in yourself and the dancer will come. For free. Now how can you argue with that?
I tell ya Kingpin, I DO enjoy your posts! Ladies and wannabee customer boyfriends please keep on mind that NO MALE who has the courage to express his opinion is a "hater". We ALL love to go to strip clubs for a "quick fix". Now over the years I've seen some friends of mine actually falling in love with dancers! - think the term you ladies use is "mark". Now thats cool to each his/her own. As a matter of fact I've spoken to many dancers and they admitted that they have a certain dislike for "regulars" or men in general. The point I'm trying to express here is that never take a night out at the club too seriously. Just enjoy the ride.
Oh! and Kingpin you forgot 3 more "dancer lines" in your previous post - they are:
1)"I'm only doing this job cause I love people and dancing". TRANSLATION: "I'm really doing this job to support my drug addicted boyfriend and my drug habit too".
2)"I can only dance and have fun is when I'm drunk"
TRANSLATION: "I can't control my substance abuse problem".
3)"I never do $10.00 contact dances" - TRANSLATION: "Yes I do but it's $20.00 a dance".
You know if everyone on this board would be more honest then MAYBE we can all learn something.
I'm not putting down people like Yoda, Lover, Wiseguy or Toplessdancer just stating my lousy 2 cents.
And rich? I wouldn't consider myself that. But I know many people who could live off interest alone. When I am in that situation I'll consider myself rich. The club is doing well for me exactly how it is. I don't invest to much time or energy into it. It makes a profit and people have a good time.
WiseGay, you mean everyone knows for months you have a "pretend" dancer girlfriend. Jungleman, I spend quite a bit of time online lately. I have one browser on inverstors dot com and the other browser has 6 screens where I can watch the club via video. I really enjoy the comfort that technology has allowed me.
Kingpenny said: "It's obvious you can relate to being rejected by dancers". Please try to keep up with current events here when attempting lame comebacks. Everyone here has known for months i have a dancer girlfriend. Like i said, fools never are able to express themselves clearly.
Kingpenny, struggling to translate the meaning of "practically" everything you post here is a sign of being on the defensive. Sadly, fools never are able to express themselves clearly. Learn from Yoda, niceass, JimJazz and a few others and maybe there will be hope for you too.
WiseGay it is easy to read your posts and see right through you. It's obvious you can relate to being rejected by dancers. No matter how much money you spend. Just know that you are not alone. If you spent more time on a treadmill and less time eating various chocolates you'd have a chance. This is Yoda's problem. More than 50% of this country is over weight. You guys are in that percentage and you blame everyone else. Get off your fat ass and leave the computer alone. I've never had a problem getting a dancer. Even at other clubs. It's simple, if you are desiarable, someone will want you. If no one wants you then you spend all of your time in a stripclub looking for and paying for attention. Again, Don't hate the messenger.
AND JUST FOR YOU HARD HEADS. IF YOU FREQUENT A STRIPCLUB AND SPEND MONEY ON DANCERS YOU ARE A LOSER. FACE IT. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. EVEN THE DANCERS. YOU ARE IN DENIAL. SAME GOES WITH CASINOS. THE ONLY PEOPLE THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO IS THE VERY WEALTHY. WHICH ISN'T YOU.
DON'T HATE THE MESSENGER
I thought it was rather common for dancer to give their "regulars" their phone numbers. I mean how else would they be able to tell you what nights they are working so you can come and give them more money. I just find it odd that after so many dancers have given the number, you are still buying these stories:
1)You are so nice I'm not good enough for you
2)I want to wait until I'm married
3) My father raped me and I still don't like being touched
4) I want to wait so it be more special
5)I want to have your kids but not just yet.
Okay, now here's the translation to the above list.
1) You're a complete idiot and I still can't believe you give me sooo much damn money. Ha, what a fool. I could never be with such a fool who throws away money.
2)This means she's hoping to get at least ten thousand more dollars out of you.
3) This means she couldn't possibly fathom the thought of your ugly-ass paws touching her. For free anyways.
4)This means she's hoping to wait it out so that you may eventually lose interest and leave her the fuck alone. But meanwhile she'll glady take your money.
5) If she told you this she really thinks your a complete fool and really plans on not only taking you to the bank, but robbing it also.
Yoda, there really isn't much else that needs to be said about you. Anyone can read your post and tell you are a complete fool. I'm just saying it. Don't hate the messenger.
Kingspin: I have plenty of numbers dickhead, They are all friends of mine. My life experience with dancers and stripclubs is exactly what gives me the confidence in my opinion that you are so full of shit.
Yoda you are already fufulling a purpose. Making stripclub owners rich arcoss the land. And you do this never getting so much a number from any given dancer. Boy do they love you.
Yoda= Sucker of the decade.
Cheers to you and anyone else who is stupid like yourself.
Wise Gay, I said practically. What does practically mean? It means more than most. Which MI clearly is. More than most not all. You are practically gay. So there is still hope.
Actually I've gotten A LOT of sexual pleasure in Montreal & Toronto strip clubs! Here is a list of "favors" I've received for only $10.00 bucks:
1)Hand Job.
2)Blow Job.
3)Tit Suck.
4)Lap Dance.
5)Kissing on lips - which I refused, since I didn't know her.
6)Heavy Petting.
7)Sexual Hugs all over.
8)Tried to give me "face" but alas I refused again - I've got to know her.
9)Had 2 well known Porn Stars dance for me at the same time (Debi Diamond and Barbra Dare.
10)Offered penatration with condom - again refused since I didn't know her.
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What kind of club are you a regular where you "hear these things all the time"? I never hear it in the strip clubs i frequent.
After a quick check I have come up with these conclusions.
One - I'm not broke. Probably has something to do with the fact I went to college. Earned a degree in Computer Programming and got a job.
Two - When I go to a club I don't take my money out and throw it around like confetti like you assume I must do.
Three - I don't have a girlfriend. Now the question is am I trying to buy one? No. That’s just sad. A dancer actually asked me for my phone number and I haven't given it to her. Why? Because it’s possible that in fact she does only want my money. Did I ever make any advances or ask her? No. BTW, I don't want your opinion on this so keep it to yourself. Even though I'm sure you won't.
BTW, I also want to know why you bother to post all this? Why does it really matter to you? If you are a club owner you should be encouraging me to go. You should be saying I love the regulars. Great people even though you secretly hate them for whatever demented reason. That’s of course you really own on in which matter I really don't give a damn.
If you keep campaigning for sucker of the year, eventually you'll get elected. Just ask Yoda and WiseGay. They are CEO and co-chairperson for "Sucker of the year" award. Every damn year!!!! And its an elected position. Go figure. Hehehehe
Message FOR NEWBIES (and, unfortunately, for some naive veterans as well) – that is, for those guys who are about to go to a strip club for the first time there are some things you need to know. Some on this Board will attack these rules, but they either make their living in strip clubs and/or are junky customers – that is, pathetic losers hopelessly addicted to strip clubs. Some men can’t create satisfying relationships with women without buying their female companionship – it’s disgusting, but true. Others will claim I’ve been “burned” by a stripper – NOT TRUE! All monies I have paid strippers have been for clear-cut R-rated services, clearly negotiated ahead of time – and not a penny more. I caught on to the stripper MO very early, but some of my friends didn’t – they were not so lucky. BUT, they became believers of the RULES FOR NEWBIES, after they got burned.
Ignore the detractors of the NEWBIE RULES, because they don’t have YOUR BEST INTERESTS in mind. Know, understand, and be guided by these rules and, while you’re in the strip club, you will be in control of your emotions and money at all times. With the NEWBIE RULES you will be OK!!
1st RULE) STRIPPERS ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN YOUR MONEY. With that single purpose some practice their trade with some sensitivity, but many (THE GREEDY ONES AND FOR WHO THESE RULES ARE ABOUT) couldn’t care less about your feelings. It’s very hard to tell the difference between the two types; since, many strippers are well-practiced con artists. To keep you buying more and more lap dances, many will feign or insinuate romantic interest in you. For this act, they use the glorified euphemistic term -- “fantasy.” They “believe” you actually want this “fantasy,” and they do it “TO OWN YOU” as a customer - that is, to get all your business and money. DON’T BELIEVE OR FALL FOR THE COME-HITHER BULLSHIT.
Lovesick, self-deluded men desperately want to believe this “fantasy,” but it is important that it is extremely rare (essentially unheard of) for strippers to have a significant romantic hook-up with any customer. Likewise, don’t try to hustle a stripper; because, more likely, you’ll be the one who gets hustled, when she gets into you head and starts asking you for help with the rent, to buy dresses, to get her a car stereo, cover car payments, etc. IF MONEY IS NEEDED TO MAKE THE RELATIONSHIP WORK, THE RELATIONSHIP IS BULLSHIT – GET OUT ASAP. Don’t be naïve enough to think you’re going to be different, become a boyfriend, and/or get laid – you won’t – YOU’LL JUST BECOME ANOTHER ONE OF HER VICTIMS! YOU CANNOT BUY LOVE WITH MONEY OR COMPLIMENTS – don’t even try!!
Strippers deal with dozens of men everyday – they’re experts at the stripper game!! The bottom-line is that they are not interested in you as a friend or boyfriend – YOU’RE ONLY AN INCOME SOURCE. Don’t put strippers onto a pedestal. The more a customer worships and idealizes a stripper, the more the stripper will think he’s a FOOL and mock him behind his back. Indeed, THE CUSTOMER WHO FALLS FOR THIS CRAP IS LETTING HIS NEEDINESS, LUST (“ENGORGED DICK & ISCHEMIC DYSFUNCTIONAL BRAIN”), AND OVER-INFLATED EGO OVER-POWER HIS GOOD SENSE. Any customer who allows himself to become a CHUMP deserves to be fleeced! – especially, if the customer has read these rules.
2nd RULE) Don’t feel obligated to pay strippers anything, except maybe a dollar tip, after their stage strip. Strippers are hardly dancers in the true sense. Many in the industry will promote the idea that taking off one’s clothes in a dark bar filled with swollen prostates automatically qualifies one as an artist, or at least a sex worker, rather than a stripper or, heaven forbid, a R-RATED HOOKER. Obviously, taking off your clothes doesn’t make you an artist any more than taking a shit does. Sure, I realize that even a sanitation worker is capable of performing his job with some measure of grace and nobility -- but he’s still a trash man [whoops, sorry a “sanitation engineer”]. Likewise, you can pick your nose with a certain degree of style and finesse -- but you’re still picking your nose (at least wipe the little “treasures” on a handkerchief).
If you decide on buying lap dances, wait for the specific stripper you find attractive. Then, if she gives you satisfying and entertaining dances, continue; but otherwise, if things are not going well, stop ASAP. MAKE HER EARN HER PAY! – she’s working for you! You don’t have to tip. Except for the lap dances she performed for you, you owe her nothing. Know that she believes she owes you nothing beyond what you’re buying. Again, do not put strippers on a pedestal; IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY SHE ALREADY THINKS YOU’RE A SOMEWHAT VULGAR, LOW-LIFE NERDY GEEK ANYWAY -- OTHERWISE, WHY ARE YOU IN A STRIP CLUB BUYING COMPANIONSHIP? Also, keep close track of the number of lap dances, because SOME STRIPPERS WILL OVER CHARGE YOU. Keep control of your wallet at all times.
Women, who strip, have debased their natural talents and sell sexual favors for money, and meet the dictionary definition of prostitute. The proper customer attitude in dealing with them is to consider them as R-rated providers (prostitutes), wherein all interactions are determined by an exchange of money and, thus, negotiated for a price. Strippers have nothing else to offer customers – IN A STRIP CLUB EVERYTHING IS A SHORT-LIVED, SUPERFICIAL CROCK-OF-SHIT! It’s all about money, and it’s not going to be different for you.
3rd RULE) Don’t believe what strippers tell you, THEY ROUTINELY LIE, LIE, AND LIE; and then, turn around and LIE, LIE, AND LIE some more. (If you don’t believe this, see note below.) This is done for two main reasons. First, strippers are paranoid of stalkers and don’t want to reveal potentially exploitable details regarding where they live, go to school, etc. Second, OVER 90% HAVE BOYFRIENDS, HUSBANDS, AND/OR CHILDREN; and, if you find out they are not available, they believe it will spoil the so-called “fantasy” for you and decrease your interest in them and their profit. They are correct; many guys are turned-off by this. Thus, expect strippers to lie about their real name, where they live, where they go to school, their family/social lives, their future plans, and whether they are already romantically involved. Expect that they will not wear their wedding rings.
[Note: Quote from DDDancer (Colorado stripper)…"How do you refrain from calling a spade a spade? I don’t like the strong word LIE, but it is what we do. Our managers encourage us to. They coach us to have alternate identities to make us more interesting. Some of us are interesting anyway, so it’s a simple task, but other girls will make up going to collage, or being poets, hairstylists, peace corp. volunteers, etc., cause sitting at home all day until it’s time to work is not very interesting to a guy. They want a pretty picture of everything that surrounds you to build in their head."]
4th RULE) OFTEN, STRIPPERS ARE NOT NICE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY IN REGARDS TO THEIR TREATMENT OF YOU – THE CUSTOMER! In their lives, as a customer, you will be placed in a special category of person. Just as prostitutes hate their “Johns,” strippers often resent and disdain their customers (yes, you’re a form of “John” too) -- who they don’t trust, don’t like, or find unattractive. Although they’ll never admit to it, MANY RESENT and DESPISE THEMSELVES FOR WHAT THEY MUST DO FOR YOU TO MAKE THEIR MONEY (e.g., expose their crotch in public, smell you ass, and rub your dick), AND THEY (NATURALLY) ASSOCIATE OR PROJECT THAT RESENTMENT and CONTEMPT ONTO YOU, THE CUSTOMER (don’t believe this - see NOTE #1 below). Some of the most mean-spirited, easily angered, vitriolic, and defensive people I’ve ever encountered have been strippers. DON’T EXPECT that they will look out for your feelings or best interests -- they won’t!
In fact, strippers often don’t like or trust other strippers. They are competitive and very catty with each other. STRIPPERS ROUTINELY BAD-MOUTH EACH OTHER. Many refuse to associate with other strippers; and, many will report that 80 to 90% of the other strippers have serious emotional and other “issues,” which strippers believe make them poor choices as romantic partners. Many strippers lead a certain “life style” characterized by abundant “partying,” which includes drug use and promiscuity with both sexes (bisexual activities are common among strippers)(see NOTE #2 below).
Moreover, it is interesting that many have inflated self images, consider themselves bona fide players (playettes), and very desirable beauties (yes, real girlfriend “catches”). BUT, YOU WILL FIND A BETTER CUT OF HUMANITY ALMOST ANYWHERE ELSE -- EVEN IN BARS! The vast majority of strippers are white trash with minimal job skills and even less character. Moreover, strippers are often self-centered, high maintenance people (some are bona fide psychopaths). Go elsewhere to find your serious romantic interests. Indeed, stripping is a lazy, cope-out type of occupation – just as the dictionary points out -- another form of prostitution.
[Note #1: This another very telling comment posted on the TUSCL Board by an anonymous stripper, and it reflects the negative attitude some strippers have toward customers. Here it is, "…but don't you know what people think of men who go to strip clubs? - PATHETIC and forever UNDESIRABLE! No woman has or will ever want you. Not physically, not emotionally, not spiritually, nothing - No one wants you. You have to pay for attention. You have to pay for conversation, and you have to pay to be touched or to touch. You have to pay for basic human experiences. You have to pay money, because nothing about you merits it besides money. A few, some, many, most (whichever way you want to look at it) strippers are using the money to better themselves and their families. They take something negative (you and your $$) and turn it into something useful and positive. What do you do with your strip club experience? NOTHING! Because that is all you are, all you have, all you will ever have – nothing. You all want us - you need us - us as people. Whether it is our bodies or our time, it is still us you want. We want money not you. Money is not part of you, it is something you have - it is a thing. No one wants you because of you."
Furthermore, here are the findings from a recent study, which can be accessed on the internet at Strip clubs According to Strippers: Exposing Workplace Sexual Violence by Ó’Kelly Holsopple, 1998, (this can be accessed on the internet at http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/str… ….”The women in this study condemn the men associated with stripping and the impact stripping has on them as the worst parts of stripping. Women do not like the way customers treat them (Thompson and Harred 1992). Furthermore they say they do not like talking to customers, asking men for money, and resent having to have to deal with them at all. They find customers irritating because they are drunk and have negative attitudes towards women. Women characterize customers as scum, psycho mama’s boys, rapists and child molesters, old perverted men, idiots, assholes, and pigs. Strippers are largely disgusted by customers and describe them as pitiful and pathetic, stupid and ignorant, sick, controlling and abusive. "They smell so sour, they breathe very heavy and kind of wheeze when women are near." "They are weak abusers who have to subordinate women and girls to feel like a man." "I see my dad. They’re old enough to be my father." "Yuck. I am repulsed by the sight, sound, smell, and touch of them." "I’m embarrassed for them." The women offer insightful evaluations of strip club customers. They say that these men do not know how to communicate. Moreover, they perceive that customers are out of control, have power and abuse problems, and will do anything to degrade women because they hate women. Strippers also state that customers want a free show and think women are cheap. In contrast, a few women positively perceived some customers as nice and added they are thankful to those who tip well….Clearly strippers’ attitudes about men are impacted by the activities in strip clubs. Women say they don’t like men and men are worthless. Likewise women believe stripping inhibits their ability to be involved in a normal relationship. "It affects your lovelife and feelings about men." "Nice boyfriends can’t handle it." "Too large a percentage of men fit into category of customer and I do not want to hate men.")
[NOTE #2: Question posed to DDDancer by poster calling himself Mouse, “I want to be sure we're on the same wavelength with this last issue. By libertine I mean a person who is unrestrained by convention or morality. This is something beyond being politically liberal. Let me rephrase the question - do you believe exotic dancers are more likely than the average women to experiment (i.e., in many things, not just sex), because they are essentially less restrained by convention or morality (i.e., as it's defined by current polite society)?
DDDancer’s response, “OH! My answer is yes! -- they dared to get on the stage to begin with, and most would probably be more comfortable with experimenting with lifestyles. Morality conforms to fit the physiological needs of the bearer. You wouldn't believe how many girls I know with different perspectives of what the Bible means to them, but the one thing that is common is they twist the meaning to whatever suits them. Dancers are very spontaneous people, who desire the opposite, but while in the business, spontaneity is really the only way to conform to customers to get the money from them, so of course it would overlap into their normal life at times. I also think most dancers would make excellent entrepreneurs, but not so good in business, unless properly trained or educated.”
Posted comment by “Darling Nikki” (stripper in Southern California) on Monday, October 20, 2003: ”I keep posting that Alexandria is a hottie -- cause she is, and Playboy agrees with me. Every girl at Cheetahs was a dirty dancer, whether they wanted to be or not. You could not make money unless there was some touching in your dances and that was breaking the law. No one has the right to bash Alexandria for that or any other girl. Miss XXX just recently started working again at Cheetahs during the night shifts. She has been identified so she doesn’t use that nick name anymore.
I do agree about the drug use – a lot of girls use drugs. Most of them use it while at work. I cant think of one stripper that hasn’t used drugs. Oh Well, that’s the life -- you have to have some experiences and live a little.
An anonymous poster responded (on Monday, October 20, 2003), “Thanks for the honesty!! Nikki, we admire your ability to tell the truth about the extensive drug use among strippers -- many, many (including the "super hotties" we're all reluctant to mention) have been high while we've been in buying dances. It was obvious. You can always tell when they’re on drugs, because something's not quite right in their eyes and behavior.”]
5th RULE) DON’T TELL STRIPPERS ANYTHING PERSONAL ABOUT YOURSELF. It’s none of their damn business, and they are likely to use personal information against you. Don’t bother giving them your business card, because they will throw it away or use it to hurt you later. Also, DON’T SHARE YOUR OPINIONS OF OTHER STRIPPERS WITH STRIPPERS, BECAUSE THEY WILL TELL THE OTHER STRIPPERS WHAT YOU SAID. Strippers talk, talk, and TALK, and then turn around and talk, talk, and TALK some more!
6th RULE) People will treat you the same way they treat themselves and those around them. Look at how strippers debase (R-rated prostitute) themselves for money (e.g., expose themselves, rub dicks, smell crotches, and lie routinely) - they will degrade you likewise! DON’T THINK YOU WILL BE SPECIAL -- YOU WON’T BE SPECIAL, JUST ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR VICTIMS!! To many strippers, customers are hardly considered human, but rather as pathetic mindless animals (VICTIMS OR MARKS) to be fleeced of their money. In fact, strippers like to refer to customers as regulars in love (RILs), pathetic losers (PLs), and/or automatic teller machines (ATMs). Don’t let them turn you into a RIL, PL, or ATM.
FOR GOD’S SAKE, MAN! -- MAINTAIN SOME PRIDE, DIGNITY, AND SELF-RESPECT!! Don’t become just another one of their victims.
7th RULE) Finally, don’t spend money on strippers; it’s a waste of your hard-earned resources. If you do, it’s equal to flushing your money down the toilet. Don’t become a strip-club junky!! Spend your money on yourself (or your family) for self-improvement and greater life enjoyment -- your money will pay MUCH greater dividends that way!! Everything you can buy in a strip club can be obtained ESSENTIALLY FREE OUTSIDE of strip clubs! – YES, EVERYTHING!! YOU CAN LIVE EXTREMELY WELL WITHOUT STRIPPERS AND PROSTITUTES IN YOUR LIFE! -- BELIEVE IT and DO IT!!
Yoda, I don't know why you keep trying to convice yourself that you aren't a complete loser. You've admitted that you are a regular on many occassions and you can't take that back. We've taken note and you've been wearing the " I'm an idiot who throws his money away" t-shirt every since.
Like I said, owning a stripclub isn't very hard. I encourage more of you to go to the book store and buy a book on investing your money. The money you spend at a stripclub ( no matter how little that may be ) can add up to just enough to buy the finer things in life only a few years down the road.
The more power you have the more you will be attractive to females. I have a few rental properties and dancers are always looking for places to rent. If I had no other options, it would be very easy to have my way these dancers looking for a place to live. Although that wouldn't be very business smart, which is why I tend to stay away from that. If you do that they can assume you'll be giving them a free place.
Yoda is a hopeless fool and everyone realizes this. But the rest of you don't have to be. Invest the money in yourself and the dancer will come. For free. Now how can you argue with that?
Oh! and Kingpin you forgot 3 more "dancer lines" in your previous post - they are:
1)"I'm only doing this job cause I love people and dancing". TRANSLATION: "I'm really doing this job to support my drug addicted boyfriend and my drug habit too".
2)"I can only dance and have fun is when I'm drunk"
TRANSLATION: "I can't control my substance abuse problem".
3)"I never do $10.00 contact dances" - TRANSLATION: "Yes I do but it's $20.00 a dance".
You know if everyone on this board would be more honest then MAYBE we can all learn something.
I'm not putting down people like Yoda, Lover, Wiseguy or Toplessdancer just stating my lousy 2 cents.
AND JUST FOR YOU HARD HEADS. IF YOU FREQUENT A STRIPCLUB AND SPEND MONEY ON DANCERS YOU ARE A LOSER. FACE IT. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. EVEN THE DANCERS. YOU ARE IN DENIAL. SAME GOES WITH CASINOS. THE ONLY PEOPLE THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO IS THE VERY WEALTHY. WHICH ISN'T YOU.
DON'T HATE THE MESSENGER
1)You are so nice I'm not good enough for you
2)I want to wait until I'm married
3) My father raped me and I still don't like being touched
4) I want to wait so it be more special
5)I want to have your kids but not just yet.
Okay, now here's the translation to the above list.
1) You're a complete idiot and I still can't believe you give me sooo much damn money. Ha, what a fool. I could never be with such a fool who throws away money.
2)This means she's hoping to get at least ten thousand more dollars out of you.
3) This means she couldn't possibly fathom the thought of your ugly-ass paws touching her. For free anyways.
4)This means she's hoping to wait it out so that you may eventually lose interest and leave her the fuck alone. But meanwhile she'll glady take your money.
5) If she told you this she really thinks your a complete fool and really plans on not only taking you to the bank, but robbing it also.
Yoda, there really isn't much else that needs to be said about you. Anyone can read your post and tell you are a complete fool. I'm just saying it. Don't hate the messenger.
Yoda= Sucker of the decade.
Cheers to you and anyone else who is stupid like yourself.
ALL DANCERS ARE WHORES NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY.
http://www.tuscl.com/sc-Listings.ASP?mod…
1)Hand Job.
2)Blow Job.
3)Tit Suck.
4)Lap Dance.
5)Kissing on lips - which I refused, since I didn't know her.
6)Heavy Petting.
7)Sexual Hugs all over.
8)Tried to give me "face" but alas I refused again - I've got to know her.
9)Had 2 well known Porn Stars dance for me at the same time (Debi Diamond and Barbra Dare.
10)Offered penatration with condom - again refused since I didn't know her.
So NOT all strip clubs are rip-offs.