Am I just bitter or does this make sense?
ButterMan
Indianapolis
Ok here is the situation...One of my main strippers a very hot 21 y.o.(yes JS she is a redhead) now has a 50 year old BF. And before you say he is paying her like i was, no he isn't. If he was there wouldn't be pics of him and her in an embrace on the cover of her facebook and instagram. She is taking a lot of flak for it from friends and stripper co-workers alike, But she says its her life and he treats her well..blah,blah,blah. Dude is the spitting image of Billy Bob Thornton. And I guess they live together now and are trying to make a real relationship out of it. I don't know if she is completely out of the stripper business now or not.She is not my main OTC girl but one that I have had a hook up with before. But I feel like if things blow up and she comes back to the "game" I wouldn't buy any pussy from her. I feel like if she is giving it away free to a guy older than me why should I pay for it? I don't think I would anymore. Am I just bitter or does this make sense? Would you guys still do OTC with her in the future or not?
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Kept mistresses have been common throughout history, if you were not willing to pony up and she found a guy that was willing & able to keep her why worry about it.
Move one dude
Maybe this love interest of hers brings something to the table. It could be money and security .. or .. it could be something else?
But whatever he has doesn't matter because you are not him. So seriously ask yourself, what do you have to offer this woman?
ButterMan, there is only one possible answer: Billy Bob Thornton guy must have a python in his pants!
To analyze the situation a few questions need to be asked.
1. Is this guy well off? But then again to a stripper if a guy doesn't live with his mom and can pay his bills she may think he's well off. On the other hand there are strippers that would expect nothing less than a Mercedes to drive if they were dating a guy.
2. Had you ever asked to be in a relationship with her. She may have always assumed your relationship was P4P and nothing less or more. Think about it, if she even likes to fuck you for free, why would she offer to do it for free when you were always paying for it.
3. Do you want to be her boyfriend, or just want free sex? Those are two different scenarios and unless you want to be her boyfriend you're better off just paying for it than what the other guy is getting. You get just the good parts of the relationship (sex) and pay a minimal "access fee" where he gets her 24/7 which will include the bad with the good.
In my experience with younger girls dating or marrying older guys they usually are getting something out of it, financial security, the ability to not have to work, etc. on the rare occasion the guy is a loser and he's outsmarted the younger girl into thinking he could take care of her. Next thing you know they have a kid together and she's stuck.
So who do you think it's maintaining her and making up for her not being "in the game" any-longer - most strippers; even most women, will not leave making $$$ to be broke w/ a dude (well some stupid ones will) - most likely he is providing for her ($$$) so I doubt it's completely "free".
1. It might not bee your cove to go OTC with her any longer.
2. If it is going to be in your head if you do get another chance, it probably wouldn't be fun anyway so don't do it.
3. If she was good and you can get over your hangups, why not?
I think in your fit of jealousy, you're (possibly) mis-reading the situation and misunderstanding the how strippers view these types of relationships. First of all, who cares if he's not doing "p4p with her like we do" -- what does it matter how others structure their p4p? Because it is almost certainly p4p, perhaps not in his mind, but in hers, even if part of the pay is to do some roleplaying about their relationship (to be clear: to her it's roleplaying, he thinks it's real). In the case of my ATF who I discussed above, while he was paying her many thousands per month, I was still having sex with her for free (and if we didn't have FWB status, let's say I would have been paying her $300, versus his $7000-ish per month, still a pretty amazing deal for me). That guy loses his money, he loses her -- absolutely, positively no different than you.
If you think she's "giving it away free", you've passed the point of rationality or any kind of comprehension of what's going on ... probably best to avoid her in any case
Just kidding. :)
I'll pay for pussy. I'll beg for pussy. But I sure as hell won't beg to pay for pussy!
This girl could have drained my life savings, and I could only think a nigga like that couldn't pull the bitches I do OTC and here this mother fucka is owning the girl of my dreams.
Hard reality. But that's a good reminder not to get caught up (build your self esteem ) on nailing hot chicks. Just like some guys, strippers are indiscriminate on who gets the pussy IRL, but ITC they are shark ass hustlers. Single track money grab. And quite honestly we need them to be that way.
Hopefully you learned to hit up stripper looking 21 y/o IRL because you never fckn know which one of them is dancing for dollars and needs a sugar daddy in their life they wouldn't otherwise notice ITC
That said, putting aside whether you're really jealous, I believe you're looking at something that's almost certainly a form of pay-for-play -- whether HE realizes it or not -- she's not giving it away
Butterman: Am I just bitter or does this make sense? ..... Blah Blah Blah....
Response: You sound bitter.
Butterman: Sob, sob. You don't get it at all. Maybe I should keep my writing at a kindergarten level. (wipes away tears)
Why ask the question if you don't want to hear an honest assessment?
1. The choice to see her again might not be yours to make.
2. If you do get the chance but are consumed by this situation, seeing her probably won't be fun anyway.
3. If you can see her again and can get past this, go for it.
What is dishonest about that?
Or was it just that I thought you sounded jealous and bitter?
Agree, but from what I can tell, the fact that she was banging someone for free isn't what bothered him -- it's the fact that the guy she's banging for free is some ugly middle-aged guy. I think I know what he's thinking: totally understand if she's banging some hunky 25-year-old guy for free, of course it's understandable that she's fucking some young guy, but she's banging a peer of his (or even someone lower in the pack) ... which means that she could just as easily have chosen HIM to bang for free, and didn't. I get it because that thought might cross my mind too. But that fact that he's a middle-aged ugly guy is precisely why I'm certain that guy is paying, and paying, and paying, even if part of what he's paying for is a performance on her part that he's truly her boyfriend who she loves "for him".
mention all shit SHE's putting him through (he's a 21-year-old stripper's SO -- He is on a rollercoaster of high highs but also irritation, disrespect, and misery)
I think it makes sense that you're bitter.
There - both possibilities covered
:)
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Okay. Ignore it if you want. That is fine. No sweat off my nuts.
I just come back to the thread when new comments are added. I just re- read your comment to supra. I understand how you feel, and I probably would have similar feelings/frustrations if I was in your situation.
The only comment I made to be "confrontational" was the pun about your name. Oops, that fell flat. My bad.
I just don't understand why you get hostile when you ask a yes/no type opinion question and get a response that isn't what you want to hear.
I guess you just don't want to answer a specific question. That's fine. But there wasn't anything I said that was meant to be attacking, and it was my honest assessment of what I interpreted from you initial post.