Seeking arrangement

You don't have too much experience with fucking strippers if seeking arrangement seems like a better option. For all you know you're talking to 40 year olds posing as college students. Or they could be under age, like one of my strippers who once did a SA date when she was not of legal age. Big risk, low odds of success, lots of work to set it up, and lots of girls who do t want to fuck. much of that can be avoided by learning how to play with strippers..

^^^^Plus they are going to be looking for an allowance of at least $3-5000 per month and they wont put out until you shell out, bad move.

Some of the women on there are delusional. They think you should pay them 1000 dollars for a dinner date just for them being arm candy, no intimacy. As with anything online, the pics they post might have been 3-4 years ago or 25 pounds ago.

Only if you got the money honey! I personally would stick with high end escorts and find one or two to be a regular with if I had that kind money. More fun less strings

two friends use it successfully. Most of the women they've met are as noted above, delusional. They expect a single, rich hot guy to find them. They have found women that realize it will mostly be married middle aged or old men looking for some discrete side action. They don't have time to go to clubs and they believe doing something like this proves you have arrived.

If you have the time, money and patience to weed through a ton of bullshit I think you can be successful. A buddy told me he found that the majority of the people posting were either out and out hookers or trying to get something for nothing.

There was a TUSCLer that posted about seeking arrangement once before and said he had success. I don't remember who it was.

STAY AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!

This site is related to the Other websites that were hacked earlier??

AshleyMadison
Cougarlife Seekingarrangments Swappernet.net

The last one was the big gotcha that no one talked about. While it was a swinger site and didn't have much to do with the others. The User account password was stored in clear text and you can merge the data. So if you used the same password across more than one site, you know what??

The hacker didn't care about cougarlife user.. LOL Double standard?

I agree with everyone else. they just want $$$$$$$$$$ for a dinner. Goldenpussy.com should be the name of the website. Here is another clue, if all the women hitting on you are runners for PLayboy of the month and between 18 and 25 then they are playing you with fake profiles. Site like that is going to have at least on BBW.. (Keeping it PC).. LOL

oh yeah romancescam.com Can be interesting.

Even if it might possibly on rare occasions work, strippers are a 1000% percent easier.

I've tried it with little luck - after talking to literally 100s of girls I found 2. Both were married women who just wanted attention and not money. Everyone else was delusional - girls living in rural areas of middle America that have never shopped anywhere fancier than Rue21 demanding $4,000 a month. Give me a fucking break!!!

One normal girl I met (online only) said she had male friends on there and some women demanded copies of the guys pay stub to prove they had money before they'd negotiate a deal. There are dudes out there with money that are stupid enough to do that.

What ever you want to think... ITC is blue collar, Sugar Babies are white collar.

Apropos, here's my Monday evening trip report:

1. Went out to meet a 22-yr-old I've been messaging with on SeekingArrangement. Starbucks date, meet and greet. Claims to be a college student and pictures are drop-dead gorgeous. She canceled at the last minute, asking to meet tomorrow instead, saying her car got towed away (sounds exactly like typical SS).

2. Feeling pissed I went to a local strip club in my city which is not known for extras. Ended up FS ITC with petite 21-yr-old brunette in the lap dance area and got her number. She's interested in doing OTC next time. She says she's got a warrant out against her, and I didn't bother to ask why.

I'm new to SA, and haven't come to any conclusions, yet. What I'm really looking for is a normal, sweet, pretty, well-adjusted college student -- someone who's not emotionally damaged, someone without a drug habit or criminal record. Is that too much to ask?

^^^^ Yes that's too much to ask - I looked for those and not much luck. If you live in a larger metro area than me, maybe you will have more choices.

"girls living in rural areas of middle America that have never shopped anywhere fancier than Rue21 demanding $4,000 a month.Give me a fucking break!!!"

ok-would you find it more appealing if girls that looked as similar as those living rural areas were to be residing in a huge metropolis (e.g. nyc or los angeles), asked for the same amount of 4K and shopped at saks 5th ave, blomingdales or boutiques at rodeo drive?

IMO if u just wanna get laid there are probably better ways to go about it - if u want a rent-a-girlfriend.fhen it may work if $$$ is not much of an issue for you.

TUSCLer "steve229" was the one that had a SB and he wrote a TUSCL article about it & for him looks like jt went well.

Supporting someone financially while she gets to sleeps around on you and throws you a bone every couple weeks. Sounds too much like marriage to me.

I took a look out of curiosity and delusional is the right word. Do they really think there are guys out there willing to toss 3K a month on a couple of dates with an average looking woman?

I've been a member of SA for about 1 yr and have definitely had some success.

I agree with hot stuff that $50 will get you nowhere. This is a high fantasy world and not for pretenders. It can Also be quite time consuming and exasperating as well.

My first two hits occurred in the first month and both girls are still in my rotation. Definitely pulled the luck card on these two. I still see One of them about 1-2 times per month and The other every Few months when she is in town. Both girls just wanted to meet a guy who could show her a nice time although my current 1-2 times per month girl initially suggested $1200 per month would be appropriate allowance to meet once or twice per week.

I declined committing to providing any set amount because I am constantly on business travel, but acknowledge that I periodically meet or exceed that monthly amount when footing the bill for - trips meals, spa visits , sporting events etc.

Sex with the more regular lady has been very satisfying. Ironically, she became a dancer after we met and now she is my CF for OTC fun. The one I see only every few months is an absolute freak in bed and I look forward to her visits as the weekend is fully debauched when she is in town. Nothing is off limits

On the other hand I have had to sift through dozens and dozens of scams where the girl would try to negotiate an allowance before we even meet or try to get you to register on another fee based website to verify identity. I have blown off each one of these girls immediately. No matter how gorgeous they are.

Overall it seems like a website where buyer beware is in full force. I got extremely lucky but After engaging in 5-8 bogus profile view requests per week I know it is just that. LUCK.

I've been a member of SA for about 1 yr and have definitely had some success.

I agree with hot stuff that $50 will get you nowhere. This is a high fantasy world and not for pretenders. It can Also be quite time consuming and exasperating as well.

My first two hits occurred in the first month and both girls are still in my rotation. Definitely pulled the luck card on these two. I still see One of them about 1-2 times per month and The other every Few months when she is in town. Both girls just wanted to meet a guy who could show her a nice time although my current 1-2 times per month girl initially suggested $1200 per month would be appropriate allowance to meet once or twice per week.

I declined committing to providing any set amount because I am constantly on business travel, but acknowledge that I periodically meet or exceed that monthly amount when footing the bill for - trips meals, spa visits , sporting events etc.

Sex with the more regular lady has been very satisfying. Ironically, she became a dancer after we met and now she is my CF for OTC fun. The one I see only every few months is an absolute freak in bed and I look forward to her visits as the weekend is fully debauched when she is in town. Nothing is off limits

On the other hand I have had to sift through dozens and dozens of scams where the girl would try to negotiate an allowance before we even meet or try to get you to register on another fee based website to verify identity. I have blown off each one of these girls immediately. No matter how gorgeous they are.

Overall it seems like a website where buyer beware is in full force. I got extremely lucky but After engaging in 5-8 bogus profile view requests per week I know it is just that. LUCK.

I had an account for roughly a year and for all the action I got, I should have saved the money and gone for a straight-up P4P arrangement. fifty dollars will get you nothing, and odds are, neither will a hundred. so if you think you're going to get on there and score something cheap, forget it.

I've used SA off and on for several years and while most of what is being said here is true, once you hit on that winner, it is pretty damn gratifying. You do have to wade through a bunch of shit, true, but I've had 3 "arrangements" which have turned into affairs with 2 of them eventually being sugarless. After reading the thread about stripper compensation of an overnighter heading up into the $2,000 range, I will take my hot milf $2-300 for an overnighter anytime, when anything, and I do mean anything, goes. I am in the South and generally $200-250 will get you in bed with a decent looking woman. But yeah $50 ain't gonna cut it anywhere outside Backpage and the street corner.

To each his own..that's why there is more than one radio station.

Thanks guys. I'm willing to wade through the BS as Jester said. I totally get John Smith's views too. I have game but apparently not as much as him.

The $50 was not exactly what I meant. What I meant to say was initially I would take her to dinner and maybe shopping or some sort of thing like that. I would spend approximately $50-$100 seed money after the dinner to see what happens and if things progress from there I'm totally okay with paying hundreds more for more.

Interesting all your comments about the girls with the Golden Pussy. $4,000 per month. Yeah right!

"What I'm really looking for is a normal, sweet, pretty, well-adjusted college student -- someone who's not emotionally damaged, someone without a drug habit or criminal record. Is that too much to ask?"

This is not too much to ask for. In fact, this statement describes DS II perfectly. And if you take out the drug reference, it also describes DS I. If you take out the reference to a criminal background, this describes DS III.

Anyone who is fucking for money probably doesn't fit the phrase "well adjusted." Same for the drug use.

Fucking whores isn't my life, so who cares.

TUSCLer "steve229" SB TUSCL article:

tuscl.net

Ski bum is such a joyful presence sometimes. It's no wonder that people hate lawyers.

Skibum: I know you are a slimy lawyer, but if you don't care.....don't comment on my post!

Oops just saw your post JS. Guess I fell right into your point.

As far as lawyers, people hate them for a reason. Lawyers generally think they are superior intellectually (see skibum). Most have no real skill other than having experience with the logically bankrupt system we call court. As a whole, lawyers are only interested in screwing you over, emotionally, financially, and they feel no empathy for stringing you out for months and even years. The judges keep it going because they use to be scumbags too. (Present company excluded)

Good info. Seems like these sites are ideal for older men with money to discreetly hook up with young hot women needing money. Of course each party has to wade through lots of scum to find each other.

IRL I prefer C-G cups but lately ITC I have a new found appreciation for A/B cups on fit women. My CF has A/B cups and I never thought I'd go for that, but I do like them, mainly because I like the rest of the woman who is attached to them. :)

Wrong thread; apologize.

I fell off my chair when I read $50 seed money. Tell me how this thread ended....

Seriously, I'm not expert but I've seen some of these gals on TV talk shows, and I realize those shows are going for the extreme - but $4 to $10 k per month were the figures talked about.

$50 seed money for dinner is not going to interest the better ones

Motörhead you misunderstood my premise. I clarified it farther down.

I would be out dinner and some shopping, or maybe $125 total for a date. The P4P would be later.

I'm pretty sure those girls are expecting real sugar and not Splenda. And that's where he delusional aspect comes in. There aren't enough HNW and UHNW individuals for all the SBs out there.

It seems the girls are waking up the the reality that those sites are frequented by TER hobbyists and not real SDs.

Welcome to live in the big city, honey. ;) You just became an "accidental hooker" for the night. Didn't your mom teach you anything? (Rhetorical).

^"life in the big city, honey"

SA is a waste of time and money, no one should be stupid enough to support these women when hookers, strippers, and escorts are all much better options who will not have you wasting(it is a waste) 1K-3K a week, or month for just a date which usually does not involve sex of any kind or its reluctant since these women do not want to believe they are whoring themselves out for money which is part of the delusion they make for themselves.

OTC is what the SDs need to discover cause them supporting these women on SA just to have arm candy with nothing else gotten out of it and the woman having most of the power for what they will and will not do is just unacceptable. A stripper, hooker, or escort is more honest then the women on "Seeking Arrangement" as atleast they know what they are and don't care.

Time and time again it’s obvious men and women often look at $$$ differently (particularly when it’s the man’s $$$ and how much he should spend and how he should spend it).

Sure there are men willing to spend a couple of thousand a wk/mo for a rent-a-girlfriend – there are men that will do this; but this has to be a very small minority and far far from the norm – not only does a SB need to find a guy that can afford that kind of $$$; but a guy that can afford and is willing to part w/ it for what he is getting.

Sure – a young woman that looks like a model can perhaps bag one of those SDs in the extreme minority; but avg looking girls that think they can get thousands per wk/mo just for being arm-candy and they just look alright I would think will be waiting a long time for their $harming-prince.

Perhaps it’s just the other side of the delusional coin – on the other side one often sees avg to ugly guys going-after and expecting to bag hot-looking chicks – avg looking chicks expecting to get thousands just b/c they are cute is kinda the other side of the same coin.

I use the word "delusional" based on what some of these women are actually posting.

Want a "platonic" relationship with a good looking older man. Busy and just want to meet a couple of times a month. Want to travel and go shopping and go to nice dinner and maybe something physical will eventually come of it. Oh and they want at least $3000 (or more) a month.

Now they weren't all like that, but a lot of the ones I read were. I'm also sure there's some variance based on where you live but I don't believe there are guys "lining" up to shell out $3000+ a month to hang out with an average looking 20 year old, if you do then you're also delusional.

First of all there just aren't that many guys out there that can afford to spend that kind of money on any consistent basis. Secondly the guys that can aren't going to be looking for a bunch of qualifiers and they're going to want physical reciprocation.

Delusional fits.

A third of the female populus is made up of fake accounts, the second third is made up of hookers and the last third is obviously gold diggers, whether in college or otherwise.

Personally, I don't think SBs are delusional to ask for allowances. And there is nothing delusional about asking for what she is worth. Whether it's help with bills/tuition (which my mom used to do in her 20s) or an allowance like $1.5K, $3K, $5K, or ever $10K a month.

What I think is delusional is that there are enough ultra-high net worth individuals out there to fund a large portion of these women. Since there isn't a high enough supply of real Sugar Daddies, some of the hobbyists are stepping in. I think a large portion of the SB end up with a hobbyist instead of a SD. That's the delusion.

Otherwise the SD/SB relation is a great one. Hell, I wish I was UHNW I'd have a sugar baby or three on my payroll, if I could! And I'd pay her (them) well. Personally, I don't think multiple thousands of dollars per month is NOT out of line for a sugar relationship. I'd want to pay mine enough so she could make six figures each year to live a pampered life of luxury and leisure. So $10K/mo or $5K/mo plus gifts&tips sounds about right to me. Others may disagree.

I hope that clears that up.

I think, too, (in most cases), sex is implied and expected. Sure, a small portion of the SBs are platonic or strictly arm candy. But most are having sex, and they know it. Even if they won't admit it publicly.

"Otherwise the SD/SB relation is a great one. Hell, I wish I was UHNW I'd have a sugar baby or three on my payroll, if I could! And I'd pay her (them) well. Personally, I don't think multiple thousands of dollars per month is NOT out of line for a sugar relationship. I'd want to pay mine enough so she could make six figures each year to live a pampered life of luxury and leisure. So $10K/mo or $5K/mo plus gifts&tips sounds about right to me. Others may disagree. "

The question I have to ask is what are you getting out of this as a man(SD) to justify the expense ? Are they giving you some physical fun or is it just to have arm candy when you go out to eat or to go out for the night ?

Oh my god! Apparently many TuSCLmembers have ADD and can't read an entire thread like "Hot Stuff"

Dinner, some small shopping, AND THEN a bigger offer for later that evening. All you derelicts want to see is that I'm trying to get something for $50! Focus people!!

I'm thinking he

PontiacGuy --> "How many of you guys have tried this website (Seeking arrangement)? All about sugar daddies and sugar babies." --> end quote PontiacGuy

I'm not really the target audience for this. What is a typical or media allowance or meetup fee? I'm thinking $3K/mo or $700/meetup. Sure some will go for $1K/mo and some want $5K or 10K per month.

For $3K a month, that's $36,000 year. I agree with another poster else where that to budget $36K for a sugar baby (provider), the sugar daddy (sponsor) would either need to have (1) mid-six-figure income or (2) not be married. That's a lot of scratch for an escort.

It's not that I don't think the escorts on SA are or are not "worth it." That's just a high price for me to personally justify. However, I do not want to dissuade the escorts (providers) on SA from finding the right sponsor. There are men out there who have the financial means to pay for a part time girlfriend without all of the full time hassle.

I've never tried SA but would if I had the kind of cash needed to make it work. I've tried SB relationships with a couple of dancers and it was pretty much a disaster.

Whenever these SB/SD relationships are portrayed in the media, it seems to always be some marginally attractive young woman that swears her SD is giving her thousands per month just for the honor of taking her to dinner and shopping. Total BS.

If there were that many SD out there like that, than why are these clubs full of smoking hot young honeys willing to grind on us for ten bucks. Why don't they all just go find a SD that will pay them 10k a month just for friendship. What crap.

I'm closing the deal on a new SB college student I found on SA. Funny thing is that she's a dancer. A stripper advertising on SA.