Buying a dancers shift
jaredlucas
Arizona
I went to a new club to branch out a bit and met a friendly decent looking dancer. Maybe a solid 7
Had some fun in the vip room and learned that she enjoys Salsa dancing
- As do I.
Invited her to an upcoming Salsa event this Saturday and she said I would have to "buy" her shift for to go. Otherwise she needed to work. Shift Price was $500.
Presumably this what she makes in a Saturday nite as she didnt blink an eye when Quoting a price
I didn't take her offer as I'm not that into her but I winder if this is common ?
I didn't sense she was that into me either which may be part of it
Had some fun in the vip room and learned that she enjoys Salsa dancing
- As do I.
Invited her to an upcoming Salsa event this Saturday and she said I would have to "buy" her shift for to go. Otherwise she needed to work. Shift Price was $500.
Presumably this what she makes in a Saturday nite as she didnt blink an eye when Quoting a price
I didn't take her offer as I'm not that into her but I winder if this is common ?
I didn't sense she was that into me either which may be part of it
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The stripper "not being into you" isn't necessarily a huge part of this.
Will post more in a bit, have to actually work for an hour :)
It sounded like a rip off. $500 is too steep.
It's not something I'd pay for - but I see the logic. Even that price for OTC is a bit steep -
But that's not what OP is talking about. He's talking about paying $500 to go salsa dancing with her, no sex.
For example, this is why it is impractical to form outside relationships with AAMP girls. They come here just to work, and to try and make as much money as possible, like say $15k cleared per month. This is all the more true as most are just here on 3 or 6 month visas. And as they don't actually live here, they are even more narrow in their focus. I have referred to them as mercenaries.
We have talked about NV brothels. Unless the girls live off site, then it is excessively costly to see them for very long.
With strippers you will run into these sorts of problems. But I still know that this is not always true of strippers, or of AMP girls. They do have time off and private lives. This will be more true of the lower mileage strippers.
Oh well, if a girl knew a guy who had an extreme type of job, one based mostly on travelling, or on going off into dangerous wild places, then she would have to accommodate in her expectations.
SJG
The only place I've ever heard about this kind of thing -- $500 for salsa dancing -- is on StripperWeb. Hell, I saw a conversation there where one girl asked the others what she should charge a customer to take her to lunch, and the answer came back as "$500". To take her to lunch.
In real life, I've never heard of such a thing. Hell, the price for taking her outside the club and having sex is normally $200-$350, and that usually includes as much pre-socialization as I'd like. Then again, I wouldn't ask to take her out during her most lucrative shift, and the conversation always starts with the "how much for sex" part, not the socialization part
Gee you think - are women that are interested in you routinely ask your for $$$ to go out w/ you :)
AFAIK; dancers spend time w/ PLs to get paid; why expect a dancer to take either work or personal time to spend w/ a custy and not get paid – AFAIK dancers that go to dinner (or anything else) w/ PLs is mainly b/c is what the PL wants; not what she wants; IMO; so why would she give him her time for free.
There’s lots of dudes that want the company and arm-candy; and if that is what they want; they should pay for it IMO.
w.r.t. the $500 – as w/ pretty-much anything else; dancers always start high and see if the PL bites (especially if the dancer may not be that interested in the proposal to begin with) – and $500 it’s too much but a dancer can def make that on a peak night at a good club; not guaranteed she will; but not guaranteed she won’t.
Just my 2 glass-half-empty cents.
A little bit of good karma goes a long way. First off I have bought dancer's shifts before. This usually happens in big cities, where certain nights are very lucrative.
Here's an example, which is a risk most wouldn't be willing to make. I met a beautiful dancer last weekend on a Friday night in a large city. We had lots of chemistry so she decided to meet me for awhile before her shift on Saturday. She mentioned if she was taken care of she could spend the entire evening with me. When we met first thing I asked was what she needed so she didn't have to go to work. We negotiated a little bit I gave her close to what she originally requested. She stayed with me from 7pm to 3:30am and we had a wonderful time, although we did not have sex. We went out to eat and clubbing all night, by the end of the night we were too tired and it wasn't a good time of the month anyway.
It paid off because I have a date with her this weekend and she made it clear I was not going to be charged and said she owes me. Yes I was/am a bit skeptical but so far the communication has gone well.
I'm in little ole Detroit and I can't remember the last time I made that little of an amount of money. I am a harder worker and better hustler than most girls, but it's possible that she makes more than that as well. I make much more. Lol
Papi, you have definitely hit on something there, and it's what I was getting at when I said, "Then again, I wouldn't ask to take her out during her most lucrative shift, and the conversation always starts with the "how much for sex" part, not the socialization part". That is, I think a lot of us are having some cognitive dissonance here ... OF COURSE she wants to be paid for hanging out with him for hours, but I'm having trouble grokking the fact that the conversation didn't START with sex, and then move on to "oh, and we'll go salsa dancing too" as an aside.
Papi_Chulo-->"AFAIK; dancers spend time w/ PLs to get paid; why expect a dancer to take either work or personal time to spend w/ a custy and not get paid – AFAIK dancers that go to dinner (or anything else) w/ PLs is mainly b/c is what the PL wants; not what she wants; IMO"
I think this is an area where you've drank the SW Koolaid, Papi, you should let your own experiences guide you're interpretation of what's going on, and what's merely SW posturing and posing. On SW, the girls despise every second with their customers, and charge hundreds for every moment OTC; IRL, that's not true (especially the charging for every moment outside the club socializing), and only someone who has read and believed too much SW could fall for that, IMO. I've had too many stripper/customer relationships where, once we get past that first dinner or pre/post-shift drinking, it's the stripper who proposes the logistics for lunch or dinner or drinks (most of the time -- but not all! -- I'll be paying for the food or drinks, of course). I can tell story after story, but it's a pattern I find myself in very often, not just with my CFs, but sometimes other girls who I'm acquainted with but have run into my at-the-time-CF and partied with us.
My own experience, in a nutshell: a huge % of girls do NOT charge for socializing outside the club, if it's just lunch/dinner, drinks, etc. I experience that consistently, and have for years. A invitation to go salsa dancing, on her busiest night, is a different thing altogether, though.
Thanks for all the insight. Huge help to me as I begin navigating the strip club world
Just as I was accepting of the fact that Dancers are not civvies I got lucky with a different dancer who was ending her day shift just yesterday. . We had enjoyed a few drinks and floor dances and chemistry was good.
Ended up going out to Taco Tuesday at a mexican restaurant in here in Tucson for drinks and tacos. Had a nice time and we got pretty Buzzed.
We ended up doing a little club hopping and then ended up at a hotel - of course we had had a hot time. She liked being spanked which was new to me but very hot!! Although I paid for dinner and drinks there were No extra fees. This I know is an exception to the rule and I appreciate all your insights otherwise I may have not had enough game to pull this one off.
Thanks again. You guys are a huge help!
Jared
COME ON... I didn't say all strippers make the big bucks... I said it's possible. I also said that while I make more than that (the "big bucks" I guess, according to you), I am a harder worker and bigger hustler in general, than most girls. My best friend of 2 years has worked at the same clubs as me all over Detroit (as well as Admiral in Chicago where we have also both worked), and she averages just a little less than me. She is also smart and knows how to hustle. So going back to my original statement, it is entirely practical for SOME girls to expect to make more than $375, especially on a busy night. You don't need to work in Vegas or NYC to make "stripper money." In fact, I've seen girls do better here than in bigger cities because the hustle is too cut throat for them. Just like some girls won't do well in Manhattan if they aren't good at conversation and a slow hustle, whereas they might do better at Mons Venus in Tampa or Admiral in Chicago on the weekend, where it's fast-paced. For both those places, making $375 (especially on a weekend night) would be laughable.