Pivotal Moments
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
For me it was, starting with the most significant:
1. Meeting the DS. My perfect sexual companion.
2. My first OTC. Fortunately I chose an experienced pro in her early 30s who guided me through the process.
3. My first ITC BBBJCIM. I heard guys on here talk about it, but I thought that might just be bullshit. It was very true. She said it was her first time with a customer. And to this day, I believe her.
After each of these activities, I was immediately hooked by what I'd experienced and was determined to have more, regularly.
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2. First lap dance at Danny's, Memphis TN circa 1991
3. First ITC BBBJ at Platinum Plus, Memphis circa 1995
1 - Meeting my current CF. It has been a rollercoaster with ups and downs and a lot of $ spent.
2 - Doing "OTC" with my current CF. It turned into dinner and a movie. Of course it wasn't free. I think this is hitting rock bottom of PL-ness. After OTC was over, I could not believe I was suckered into that. I would have rather spent that time talking instead of watching a stupid movie. Never again.
3 - TBD
2. First 3 lapgasms at Club Zeus (Indy), Silver Bullet (Urbana), and 6th Avenue -- 1996-7
3. First ITC BBBJ at Palace in the Pines (Youngstown) -- 2013
As you can see, I was a slow learner :)
Oh well, the money is spent and lesson learned. All I can do now is not see her for a couple of weeks to make up for it.
2. First BJCIM. Yeah, it was with a condom, but it was a first (working to get the BBBJCIM).
3. My first FS with no tip required or expected (since repeated more than a few times)
2. Walking into a club that would be something Papi would like in San Antonio and negotiating OTC with a cute Hispanic spender for $125 in under 15 minutes. I knew I had become a good negotiator.
3. Meeting my ATF in Sapphires Las Vegas, spending 7 hours in the club talking to her (and over $500 in lapdances) and getting her to come to a hotel room after her shift with me for free. She was also my first relationship with a stripper that lasted more than one night. I knew I made it to the "big time" of being a strip club expert.
2. My first OTC (a couple of days ago)
3. Can't think of a third one
"the money is spent and lesson learned" I don't think you've learned your lesson. You're gonna keep spending excessive amounts of money on her for no value.
2. First ITC hand job in the LD area. I didn't ask for it, but definitely enjoyed it.
3. First time my CF made me LDK. What's funny is our first set of lap dances were good but not amazing, but the second set I pushed the limits a little more. It's interesting that she clearly doesn't worry about being suspended or fired. She's taught me what I can expect to get away with during dayshift for lapdances.
I guess if I ever negotiate OTC with the CF it will bump #1 off
2. Discovering COI (2003?)
3. Getting a lap dance from my favorite pornstar P.J. Sparxxx.
"I didn't ask for it, but definitely enjoyed it"
Yup. Unsolicited extras are the best. My first ITC BJ happened like that. After a couple of dances to get me warmed up, the dancer whispered "do you want me to take care of you"
I was merely expecting a handjob, but before I could answer she had my cock in her mouth giving me a BBBJ.
2. My first OTC experience. I had been seeing this dancer for months ITC. I kept asking her about OTC, and she finally agreed. I don't know why it took so long. I find it much easier to get OTC now, maybe because I'm more confident.
Finding out those rules have changed has been eye opening. I haven't done OTC or sought out extras yet, but my first hands on lap dance was exciting. I was like, really, I can touch now? I kept expecting the bouncer to yell at me or kick me out, but it didn't happen.
2. My first trip to the Yellow Rose in Austin, Tx - great looking dancers - amazing variety - even great stage sets.
3. My first solo trip to Heartbreakers in Bloomfield, NJ - as I discovered itc extras - and that was the beginning of my love for extra clubs - and itc extras.
1. One of my earliest LDs. One where a gorgeous MILF has put me into a trance. She was a money vacuum. It was the one and only time I ever pre-paid for a string of dances and ACTUALLY got a good dance. Scratch that. I was fkn great!
2. Being stopped by a bouncer during a dance. It taught me a lot (both that day ... and since then).
2. 2001 first visit to a club alone, first lap dance and lapgasm.
3. 2010 discovered TUSCL and had my first ITC BJ
4. 2015 first time a dancer unzipped my pants and pulled me out just because she was horny.
My experiences nearly fit a geologic time scale! I'll probably work my way up to OTC around 2051!
2. First time my CF/ATF walked past me and I stopped her and got my first dance from her.
3. First OTC with same girl. Never done with anyone else before or since. She is unbelievable.
2. Second visit to follies
3. Third visit to follies
1. My 17th birthday, 1978. It was my first ever visit to a strip club, and first ever sex with a stripper/hooker.
2. Meeting my ATF, even though I didn't know it was pivotal at the time.
3. First bareback with my ATF. it was the first bareback with anyone but my wife since marriage.
I'd probably SC'ed a total of under 20 times. One of the things I enjoyed: when I was hanging with a stripper, and she would point out a customer and tell me his nasty secret ("that guy asks the girls to SUCK ON THEIR TOES... EWWWW!"). We'd laugh and make fun of him together. One day, I had this epiphany: some of the stripper might make fun of THAT GUY, but he was still here at the strip club getting dances ... or, in other words, some of the girls were saying yes, and he was getting exactly what he wanted, without caring what anyone else thought.
With that realization, the very next time I went VIP with my first-ever CF, when she wiggles her ass in front of me, I gather up every ounce of courage I can, with the adrenaline pumping and my pulse pounding in my ears, and trying to hide the fact that I feel like the dirtiest most-perverted scumbag in the world, I lean forward and whisper to her, "I love your ass ... can I spank it??". She turns around with an amused smile and says, "Sure! I LOVE IT!".
Freeze frame right there. I'm not sure if the pivotal moment was when I decided I was going to ask for whatever I wanted regardless of who did or didn't approve, or whether my CF told me she'd love me to spank her. Both were pivotal, and both sent me on my way to realizing that 1. the vast majority of strippers will indulge light kink, with no upcharge, 2. A majority of strippers indulge intermediate to heavier kink, with no upcharge. Completely changed how much I enjoyed strip clubs, and how I enjoyed strippers.
2) One particular erotic ITC FS session: took my bicycle on the Alameda Ferry into San Francisco and ended up hooking up with a stripper -- sweaty, in cycling attire, gross, and all. I remember distinctly apologizing for smelling bad, and she said "it's okay, pheromones."
3) First long-term stripper/SB. She's now 22.
The first time a dancing girl whispered in my ear the very real possibility of OTC fun while in a Tucson club.
Visiting both the Blue Moon Lounge and Bourbon Street Circus the same night and experiencing the vast difference in SCs a few miles apart in the same city.
Reading all the responses above. And so many more.
2. Meeting my ATF.
3. Finding out that my new found ATF wasn't a stranger to my family.
2. Discovering TUSCL. As a frequent traveler it used to be tough to find the clubs in a new city. Now I can find some T & A where ever I may be. Thanks Founder!
3. My brothers bachelor party and first strip club experience. I was shocked, shocked! and appalled that these dancers would pretend to like me just to get into my wallet and swore to never set foot in a club again. I have since reconsidered that opinion....
1) Strip club visit in Vegas. I had grown into a timid bitch around females and this loosen me up significantly
2) Moving to the Southeast, experiencing super high two way contact, and un-sought extras
3) Finding TUSCL and then later stripperweb.com , suddenly I knew how to communicate with dancers
Unfortunately now I love going to strip clubs more than anything on earth. Shit
My first "hands on" lapdance, about '98 or '99, convinced me strip clubs were worth another trip.
My first ITC FS, in 2003, convinced me the world was significantly changed (perhaps for the better).
That FS was an unsolicited, freebie from a very hot, slightly drunk young blonde. I had never before received even a handjob. I didn't have any idea - then - that dancers in strip clubs might have financially adjustable morals.
:)
+ 1st SC-visit in 1991 shortly after turning 21 – my coworker and hang-out buddy was 24 and had already been so he took me – it was at Solid Gold in North Miami Beach which is now called Deans Gold – nice club and nice looking women – IDK if there were LDs available but we got a full-nude table-dance and there was no touching (the dancer would dance on a small portable little-round low stage-thing) – went back the next weekend and just sat at the stage – I did not have much $$$ back-then and was busy w/ other things so stopped SCing after my 2nd-visit
+ ,my first black SC visit to Rolexx in Miami which then became Lexx and now Climaxxx - this was about 1992 – went by myself and didn’t know shit about SCs – got a few dances from two dancers but were kinda air at that time – only went once and pretty much stopped SCing after that – busy w/ other things and not much $$$
+ 2000 – moved to Dallas for a very well-paying job post finishing my Masters - was out driving one evening getting to know the city and ran into Baby Dolls Dallas at its old pre-2006 location (had no interest in SCing at that time) – the name on the billboard and the packed parking-lot and lights told me it could not be anything else but a strip-club – made a mental note of the location and came back the next Fr night and went into Baby Dolls for the first time -prior to visiting Baby Dolls my few sporadic SC visits over the previous 9 years were often filled w/ low to mediocre mileage and why I did not have much interest in SCing – although Baby Dolls did not have extras; 2-way contact and mileage were good and the club had tons of dancers competing for one’s business thus this allowed for good-mileage – after my Baby Dolls Dallas visit I was hooked and have never looked back SC-wise
+ 2003 – from 2000 – 2003 while living in Dallas I mostly visited upscale mixed clubs – circa 2003 visited a small all-black club in Arlington, TX (30 minutes west of Dallas) – club was Peep N Toms – it was wall-to-wall built ebony women and there was azz EVERYWHERE – never seem that much fine azz (big round booties) in one place b/f – I had found my PL-calling and post 2003 most of my SC visits were to all-black clubs
+ moved back to Miami at end of 2009 – joined TUSCL in Jan 2012 and became a much more dedicated SC monger
2007 just turned 25 and i spent $500 ITC on the hottest stripper in the club..i mean a 9 or 10 by the majority of most standards. The attempt was to get laid. Major failure in a clean club. But she did give me her phone number lol
2008 i found tuscl
2010 i just turned 28 and i started to date then live with my first stripper during my first year of separation from my wife witch lead to my divorce
2014 i turned 33 and broke it off with my stripper girlfriend and i soon gave her the ATF title.
First OTC sex not counting my GF was 2012
First ITC HJ in a clean club by my soon to be stripper GF was in 2009
First car blow job by a stripper at a grey area club was 2013
2) Discovering TUSCL and meeting Shadowcat around the same time, which led to some fun days and nights at PP Columbia.
3) My ATF finally agreed to OTC for the first of several times. She retired a few years ago but I still consider her a friend and we communicate occasionally via Facebook.
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2. First nude club visit. The stage side show was literally an eye opener. Then FIV for the first time as a club. A new and exciting escalation.
3. First unsolicited BJ at a club. It happened in an area that was usually crowded but had no one at the time. We did one dance and it was pretty hot. I started to see what I could get away with and soon I was fingering her. She then unzipped me and took me in her mouth. I had no idea it was coming and no idea that could be had in that club. She worked me and then would dance some more. Five songs in and I tell her I am close. She keeps going and lets me cum in her mouth. So, I have no idea what the expected fee should be and I tell her. I am expecting to get a huge suggested tip. She tells me to pay her for the four songs (she undercounted) and that no tip is necessary. She tells me the dance made her hot and that she wanted me to come back. I gave her $100 and told her I would be back. I never figured out her angle, but I did realize that strip clubs had changed.