On line dating
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
Needless to say, this process has raised lots of questions for me. I have no idea if I'll stick with this or not. But I do plan at least a little bit of experimentation to see how hard it is to supplement my strippers with some milf pussy.
Im going to get some more experience with this before I ask any specific questions. As an initial matter, I was wondering how many of you have tried on line dating. If you've used it, what site did you use and what were your experiences with it? Was it worth the effort or not?
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Okcupid was my main stomping grounds. Lot of nerdy hipster girls DTF.
You don't need a girlfriend, you need a civvy fuck buddy
As for Tinder, I thought that was just for the young. I'm over 50.
Match or eHarmony = LTRs
POF (Plenty of Fish) = (free, like poorman's Match or eHarmony, I guess).
Why don't you freestyle and find a sugarbaby you can sponsor?
I've met some awesome AWESOME fun women. In general, very few bad dates, the most common problem being women who are 10 years old than their pics. I do have one or two awesome internet dating gonzo date stories.
Very quickly, you'll develop a few skills:
- Lots and lots of phishing and scams and male trolls who think it's funny to pretend to be women. All of these become pretty obvious really quickly.
- Avoid women whose close-up pics are all slightly out of focus
- Avoid women who don't include clear full body shots: if those shots are all from various angles, do not bother
- Incredibly, there's a good % of women who think emailing or otherwise spending a little time to get to know the stranger on the other end is a "waste of time". Eventually, I learned to avoid them -- if they wanted to meet after just a single email exchange, both their temperament and judgement always end up suspect, which shows up quickly on the date
And I looked at Tinder -- it sounds like a dead end for older guys.
I do think Tinder skews young, and it's all about your pics and how you look.
Guys are expected to message and women may or may not message back. When women actually do message first they are highly interested; I think I had an 100% success rate fucking girls who messaged me first if I wanted to.
It can be very superficial. But so can all of dating.
I do think JS69 just needs to take the time and get clean of marijuana and start to feel his feelings. Divorce means that a guy has failed. One has to deal with that.
SJG
Tinder is good for hookups.
I've had a lot of luck on the main sites. POF (Plenty of fish) seemed to be the best one for me for hookups. Zoosk was good for me too. Not so much Match.
You'll get a lot of fugly girls messaging you. You just have to weed through all the emails.
When a girl that looks like a model messages you though, your Bull Shit meter should be going off.
And if they say something like "email me at an email address other than through the site." It's some sort of a scam.
I think online dating is a bad deal. Best is face to face first meetings. This way you know you like her, and she knows that you like her. So no problem.
Online sets up bad stuff.
SJG
SJG
I thought about tinder, but I really haven't had much motivation to create an account.
The one's you might meet online are otherwise.
SJG
San Jose Guy, reverse that to fugly guys and you have my experience. I have seen all types of people but was stunned by the amount of fugly men out there. Quasimodo is not just a fictional character.
One thing I really laugh at is:
http://www.alleywatch.com/2013/03/pulse-…
This Elissa Shevnisky who has written a book called "Lean Out" and who claims to be a spokes person for women in the tech sector. But the problem is that her idea of the tech sector is just bullshit, marketing and branding strategies. She is an offense to women who actually have Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics skills, and who demonstrate every day that they can do things just as well as any man can.
And then she has this:
J-Spot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvDw74HS…
So they tried to make this online dating thing called "Make Out Labs". But I think there wasn't must interest. So they repackaged it as Jewish Dating, J Spot.
The idea is that there are spam filters so that the women can screen out offensive responses. So I mean, just how exactly is a computer supposed to do that?
Obviously if you want to block people who bother you, then you just have to put them on ignore manually.
And then, this dating site, like all online dating stuff, is supposed to be for meeting people. But is that really what it does? No, it is for screening people out by categorizing them.
It is neurotic! The more they use that, the less the people they will fuck.
If people want to meet, do it face to face and see if the physical attraction is there, and then get to know the person, rather than trying to type cast them.
Something about Jewish culture makes Jews more likely to go for this screening out.
Listen to some of Shevinsky's stuff. She goes right up my spine.
Yes and for JS69 and to reply to Shailynn, the face to face civilian venues I like are
1. Viet Coffee ( for their waitresses )
2. 2 year and 4 year college student centers and libraries ( do carefully, have legit reason for being there )
3. Auto Parts Stores ( some have hotties at the cash register )
4. Night Clubs / Discos ( some pitched at different ages, music styles, and styles of dress )
5. Indoor Shopping Malls ( for customers and store employees, but decide and close fast, don't follow them around or out into parking lot, also rehearse what you will say to them as you must answer all their questions in the first sentence )
6. Denny's and similar for waitresses ( range from MILF to young )
7. The big chain book stores ( Friday night still 'singles night' ?)
But usually civilians do go slower than pros. One exception though is where the people are somehow pre-screened, like employment or professional venues.
Local art shows too.
And then also simply treating strip club dancers and AMP girls as civilians.
Good Luck and get sober and sane!
SJG
San Jose, that's exactly it. You never know how people are going to click when they meet, whether it's online or blind date. Personally I like friends first but some want that instant connection. Instant is best for sexual only relationships. The problem with online is the photo only tells part of the story.
Some things have chamged and I kinda like on line dating. Not gonna replace my strippers of course but I wanna try some of that loose milf had a few kids pussy for a change. More room to move around. Details to follow probably.
The whole pussy being loosened by kids things is a myth. Women do lose muscle tone as they age, so that may be what you're experiencing
So I guess I won't be using tinder. Just have to stick to sc 's. Like sharkhunter I've found most sites to be scams. Maybe I'll try POF again. I cancelled my account years ago when I started dating a civilian. Anyone else know of any other sites where scamming is minimal?
Shadow - I noticed that too with the HOOK UP link. Only shows when you click on an sc to see their reviews.
rh48hr, try OkCupid, it's sort of a direct competitor of POF.
Yes, that is what I mean, no match making services or match making friends. It only creates tension, and often this spins negative. Where as if the very first meeting is face to face, then it is 100% non-committal and no-expectations. And photographs are not a substitute for face to face. Photographs only create expectations.
If the people select each other in a face to face first meeting, then the tensions are eliminated from the outset.
JamesSD, hitting on Denny's waitresses and autoparts store cashiers does work. Try it. Maybe it takes a little practice, but it does work. The reason I think it works is that what every girl wants is a guy that is really attracted to her and who is not afraid to show it. She doesn't want to have to make it happen herself. If she has to do that, then the guy could be chicken of rejection. Or another girl could come on to him and get the same result.
So the girl wants the guy to pick her and make all the first moves. This applies equally well in strip clubs too. It's just that girls have learned that if they wait for that in a strip club, they will be waiting a very long time and they won't make any money. But generally if you learn to hit on Denny's waitresses and auto parts store cashiers, then you'll find that the same approaches have a huge effect when used on strippers.
Its every girls dream to have the guy hit on her, not the other way round.
In indoor shopping malls they are often startled when approached. Though they won't usually go for more than a phone number, they are deeply effected by the experience and so when you call they will be extremely ready.
That power of selecting and acting is huge. You will have the chance to use it once with a girl, and then she will never forget it. So I do not waste it by letting girls select me.
Single mothers and those over about 26yo are often extremely easy to hit on because they know that their chances are diminishing. But what I am saying does not only apply to them.
In my opinion women use match making sites because they lack confidence in their looks, or because they want to screen guys out through the questionnaires. Both of these are neurotic. Don't go there with them.
A guy has more power in just See Want Get mode, just learning how to hit on them in as many situations as possible.
With the pros you want to slow them down by increasing the intensity. But with the civvies you want to speed them up and get them out of their comfort zone.
SJG
So often after I get them going and its already quite explicit, I'll say something like, "And sometimes I would enter you without first waking you."
That has always produced an extremely positive response.
SJG