OTC- newbie... Calling Papi_Chulo, and the rest of you seasoned veterans!

I always do lunch (if it's a daytime OTC) at a good restaurant (find out what she likes in advance) that serves alcohol. From there, we either go to a cool bar, or a strip club that serves alcohol -- my city is laid out so that there's really good restaurants next to the area where the strip clubs are, but that might not work for you. Then, it's on to the hotel or hot tubs.

So, in short:
Eat,
Get buzzed,
Get horny at the strip club,
Then fuck it all off

Babes always want to do lunch with a new guy. It's a lot less intimidating to them. I've had OTC with a few and I like to show them a good time. When we fuck, we fuck. That's the stripclub life. Best of luck to ya !!

Call me crazy but im thanking Lunch for some reason

Pro tip #759

Eat a lite meal before sex so all your blood flow isn't in your gut digestion food but instead in your dick so u can pop that pussy juice

Welcome to the OTC game. It can be an amazing ride.

I always take her to a meal before sex. It puts the girl at ease and makes her feel less like a whore. Don't listen to Rech. He fucks DS imitations. If I were you I would do dinner instead of lunch. Sex after a dinner date is more common whereas sex after lunch, while certainly possible, seems less likely on a first date. You need to make it as easy as possible for her to have sex with you. With my regulars we also do a show or something else fun after dinner but that comes later, not on a first date.

My biggest concern is that it sounds like you haven't even mentioned post meal activities. Is that right? If so, that's a mistake. Even if she is low mileage and doesn't do OTC much, I would make clear that I'm hoping to go back to my hotel for paid fun afterwards. I might tell her that there's no obligation if she's not comfortable with me with me after the meal, but I make it clear respectfully that if she wants my money we're gonna fuck. If you don't do this, there's a good chance she stops with lunch. Yes she might say no if you mention sex up front but if so you don't want her anyway. Most guys are much too timid in the way they approach sex with strippers because they treat them exactly like a civilian woman. Don't make that mistake. And don't listen to SJG when he claims otherwise. He has never been out of his mom's basement.

I would also mention money up front or at least at the restaurant. Don't save it for the hotel. Do this nicely and respectfully in a non creepy way. It is absolutely critical to address these subjects confidently, maturely, in a way that doesn't turn her off. Don't be in any way demanding. Be confident, fun, safe, and generous. And if you're ok with it, I'd make clear that I want to satisfy her too so it's not just one sided. I often sell my oral skills beforehand to make it clear that I want a mutual GFE and I understand that I'm not just looking to fuck some cheap hooker. You need to take charge, don't let her take charge. Make clear what you want, what you'll pay for it, and that you are a nice safe guy. Most new guys are too embarrassed to do this, or are afraid it will scare her off, but trust me this is definitely the way to go.

Do not feel like you need to take her out to eat a few times and maybe have other dates before sex. That is how you approach civilian women, not strippers. But I assume you have gotten to know her on at least 2-3 club visits. That is important to do.

Of course I'm assuming that you plan to pay and aren't looking for free sex or a girlfriend. If that's what you want, then of course you need to be less direct about it.

Lastly, if she is a higher mileage provider (ie has done OTC many times) then I would be very clear about what I want. GFE, BBBJCIM, kissing, etc. but you clearly aren't ready for that type of conversation yet and I assume from your description that she's not a particularly high mileage type escort.

PM me with any questions. I've done this a couple hundred times with 1-2 dozen mostly low mileage strippers.

"Pro tip #759

Eat a lite meal before sex so all your blood flow isn't in your gut digestion food but instead in your dick so u can pop that pussy juice"

Brilliant!

In other words, it's a mistake to just go to lunch and play it by ear. That's how you get civilian women. You take them on a date and hope for the best. You are shopping for sex which is a totally different process.

I know I shouldn't feed the trolls, but I can't resist!

I would watch carefully for a lion wearing a suit! Apparently the lion likes to steal DS's and turn them into "sluts for BSC" and then he allows his pet vulture have sex with them! He claims to have done that to JohnSmith69's DS!

Getting your date stolen by a lion in a suit is non-brilliant, so be careful BigPoppa99!

Are you young?

Hell, I wish I was young again. I know a few of my buddies wish the same thing for them. Eh ??

Rech I go for much lower mileage strippers than you do. When a dancer has never done OTC before and I'm trying to pop her cherry, it is important to be low pressure. I make the offer so irresistible that eventually she can't refuse. But if you push too hard you'll scare off a low mileage dancer who doesn't usually do OTC. You don't need to follow this approach.

And yes adding weed into the mix is a great step if she partakes. But a surprising number of dancers don't smoke.

Rech you follow your system and I'll follow mine. But if a girl is low mileage mine is a lot more likely to get you laid.

There's no universal right or wrong on the lunch thing, just right or wrong for you. For me, I not only enjoy the extra hour of eating and drinking, but I get hornier so that by the time we get to the hotel, I'm crazy for her -- which makes the sex that much better. I'm solidly in the lunch, then go out drinking or go to a SC, THEN go to the hotel type.

Agree with everyone above that yuo should be clear you're looking for sex (if that's what you're looking for). Unlike JS69, I usually do not discuss the sex in detail. "And then after lunch, we'll go back to my hotel room" is all that's needed (sometimes I'll throw a "for sex" in there, just in case). But you'd better mention the sex, or there's a chance there won't be any.

I'm no expert but I seem to be holding my own. When I am making the offer, I state the amount of money that I'm offering and then add "I'll even throw in dinner if you'd like". So far I'm batting 100% on the dinner too. I also make it a point to remind her that she won't have to pay any tip outs.

I don't do OTC often and the few times I've done it it's been straight to sex – I wanted sex – she wanted $$$ - no need for any steps in b/w as far as I was concerned.

So I'm not that experienced an OTCer (not really my thing) but this being TUSCL of course I have an opinion :)

First – it's unclear as to whether you are eyeing her as a potential GF or just to fuck her OTC.

As JS69 mentioned; if you are eyeing her as a potential GF; then you proceed as you would with a civvy.

If you are just interested in sex then as Subra mentioned there probably isn't a right or wrong w/ respect to lunch or no-lunch b/f fucking – perhaps w/ a newbie OTCee; spending more time w/ her b/f the deed may make her feel a bit more comfortable; but at the end of the day IMO if she's doing it for the $$$ then I don't necessarily think it'll make that much of a difference b/c it's not as if one has to woo her; for the most-part IMO.

Women can be very hard to read; and strippers even more – more often than not young and/or inexperienced SCers end-up reading strippers wayyy wrong.

According to your review; you just met her and she agreed to OTC: most women are usually not this easy especially w/ a guy they just met IN A STRIP-CLUB.

Anything *is* possible but IME more often than not the custy and dancer often see things differently especially if the custy is seeing the dancer as a romantic interest where all along the dancer is *just* looking to get paid and thus pretending to be w/e the custy wants her to be in order for her to seal-the-deal/get-paid.

No one can categorically say that she may not be into you; just that IMO/IME that is often not the case and often times custies don't see it this way.

When it comes to strippers; it's sorta like “trust but verify” - i.e. go ahead and hook up w/ them but don't go into it as if you would be hooking-up w/ a civvy b/c you are not – she's a stripper you met *in* a strip-club – so one should approach it with a different level of attention (and IMO skepticism).

In a nutshell – if you are pursuing her as a GF; then be cautious until you know what you are dealing with b/c it may not be what you think or what it appears – and if you are pursuing her as an OTC-fuck; then might as well be direct but also tactful – let us know how it goes.

If you have the time or interest; do a search for OTC in the TUSCL search box at the top of the page.

;) A big thanks to everyone for their suggestions and feedback.
A couple answers; yes I am very young. Yes I play with big money. Yes, this is MY first OTC....
I've listen to what you guys have preached to me and hope to have a lot of fun.
Thanks and regards, BigPoppa!

Their is only ONE "System", OK guys

PapiChulo---> "perhaps w/ a newbie OTCee; spending more time w/ her b/f the deed may make her feel a bit more comfortable; but at the end of the day IMO if she's doing it for the $$$ then I don't necessarily think it'll make that much of a difference b/c it's not as if one has to woo her; for the most-part IMO."

A few of you have made comments about lunch/dinner before OTC, but always from the point of view of whether it will make the stripper more comfortable or whatever. For me, I think this is completely the wrong point of view -- the one good reason to do lunch or dinner before OTC is that I want to -- IT'S ALL ABOUT ME DAMMIT!. And, I like going to dinner with strippers, I love talking to my CF, and drinking with her, and flirting, and seeing the wave of turning heads as she walks by. I realize that for you "I just want to stick my dick in a hole" guys, this is a bizarre concept :) But I think it's an incredibly easy decision to make -- Do I want to go to lunch with her? IF so, then I'll make lunch part of the OTC. Even for me, there are occasionally girls I don't insist on lunch with, because I just want to stick my dick in a hole.

In any case, I don't sit around overthinking whether or not lunch will make the stripper more comfortable or not. It's not that I don't care, I like my CFs and want them to be comfortable, but I have no way of knowing so I don't try to puzzle it out.

:):) Thanks again Papi and Subraman! But the real reason for the lunch; is prolly more to calm me down!

^ oh - ok - you want to ease yourself into it