Hi, how many visits to the club does it take before you get the first successful OTC? Does your odds increase if you are traveling and you just need to get her back to your hotel?
Three is my usual maximum, although there are occasional times when a stripper is worth more of a long term investment. It is generally harder to do when traveling unless its a long trip, because you don't have enough time to both make the connection and then arrange a mutually convenient day/time. It is also possible that some dancers may be hesitant to meet you if you don't offer the prospect of being a repeat customer and are not a local regular.
A wise mang once said " wear a suit to a dive bar" he later said " find the one with addiction" then we quoted a prophecy by Notraydomis " only 35% success to those that pay hookers"
One try is all you need because wasting time and money is pointless
This is the best way i have found
Whatch the stage rounds and once you find your girl go tip her a few dollers and ask her to visit you.
Once at table buy her a drink and talk. The talk should be about how beautiful and sexy she is. Try to pull her close and rub on her body with your hands..if she pulls away get rid of her...if she pulls in start kissing her kneck . If this goes down buy the dance. About one or two will do. During the dance try to exculate the sexuality by rubbing her ass and sucking tits...kiss her neck and if she lets you kiss her lips...after the dance she will try to upsell you to champagne rooms...this is when you say " i was thinking we head back to my hotel room after your shift" if she is down you will fuck her if not move on she is a waist of resourced after this.
Hope from bitch to bitch, club to club...you will find a lot of no answers but the yes girls make the adventure worthwhile
One try is sufficient if you don't mind a regular, high mileage provider. Basically that is just hiring an escort that you meet in person instead of online. But if your'e looking for lower mileage pussy (which in my view is one of the main advantages of using strip clubs to find prostitutes) it usually takes more.
One try is sufficient if you don't mind a regular, high mileage provider. Basically that is just hiring an escort that you meet in person instead of online. But if your'e looking for lower mileage pussy (which in my view is one of the main advantages of using strip clubs to find prostitutes) it usually takes more.
Totally agree with this
But i would not exceed past 3 visits
With that said i did score my ATF ( air dancer) after 52 visits..yes once a week spending $60 per visit for a full year
But if your looking to maximize your dollar and run a tight operation 1 to 3 visits with buying only 1 to 3 dances per visit
Get in and get out..most these bitches just want to waist your time and money its kinda their job lol....sad but true
YMMV greatly with trying to get OTC. I've had girls who offered OTC within the first 30 minutes of meeting them when out of town all the way up to a local fav that was always willing to do ITC and didn't offer OTC until more than a two years after I met her.
She always said OTC wasn't worth the risk when we could do anything we wanted ITC, then the club was sold and the new owner cracked down on ITC so she started doing OTC.
Pretty much what whodey said – there is no magic # - just like trying to figure when a civvy will fuck based on how many dates you've had – kinda chick-dependent – on avg the better the dancer gets to know you the more comfortable she may feel but no telling how long that is exactly.
God damn sometimes you guys are so fucking lost, I think you just make up shit because you're really not doing the things you say you do on here.
JS69 and Whodey make great points, backed up by Papi.
There is no magic number. Take it from someone who's been in a shithole, to a high class joint all in the same night. At many of these places, you will find what is probably a high mileage provider that will probably meet you (or anyone for that matter) within 30 minutes of meeting you for the first time if the price is right. On the other hand, some girls will not do it for $1,000 because they do not want to be a "one and done" with you, and they want to make sure you will want repeat visits, OR like Whodey says they simply don't want to do it because of the risk (which could be getting fired from work, bad reputation from other dancers, LE, etc.).
Just think, there's probably a lot of stuff you could get away with at work, but don't do because you don't want to risk getting in trouble which could equal you getting fired. Strippers have a similar view to OTC - if the risk is worth the reward, they will do it. If Ricky offers them $1,000 they may do it, if Juice offers them $70, a chocolate milk and a Little Debbie cake, they're probably going to decline, no matter how many visits Juice makes to the club.
Juice offers them $70, a chocolate milk and a Little Debbie cake, they're probably going to decline, no matter how many visits Juice makes to the club.
Shylnn i agree with everything you said but thiss ^^^
Y dosnt anybody believe me ? Its a true life experiences
Im a attractive heavy set guy that has good game and a little money
---> " I think you just make up shit because you're really not doing the things you say you do on here"
For sure, not hard to look at the responses and see who is doing the exact equivalent of SW-style lying & posing.
For me, I *love* hanging out with strippers ITC, so I'm probably more patient than most, I don't consider it a "waste of time" if she doesn't want to go OTC, it's only a waste of time if I"m not having a kick-ass time in the club. And, as a general rule, no offense to the guys who enjoy girls who are easy to get OTC, but I do enjoy the challenge of going with a girl who doesn't go OTC with every guy the very first time they meet.
GEnerally, I don't even ask until our 2nd time, and if I really dig her and can smell a payoff, I'll happy stick with her 5 or 6 trips.
I do most of my clubbing in Detroit nowadays, where I can hide behind a curtain, no cameras, in a decent size chair and I am left alone without being bothered by a bouncer. Why do I need to do OTC in Detroit? I think every girl I have done OTC with has offered it to me. In most cases it was late (almost closing time) and the girls have said "oh I really don't want to go home yet." What that translates to is "I didn't make enough money tonight, so if I come back to your hotel will you pay me $150 or $200."
In other instances where you can't do all those fun activities inside the club, that's when you need to work your charm for OTC. If you walk into a 'no extras club' and you're an unfamiliar face, good luck, it's highly unlikely you're going to get OTC on your first visit no matter how much money you pony up. You'll find a girl eventually, but I bet you fail at least 6 times before you find one that says yes.
• ---> " I think you just make up shit because you're really not doing the things you say you do on here"
For sure, not hard to look at the responses and see who is doing the exact equivalent of SW-style lying & posing.
Completely agree guys. MANG i tell you this board has some idiots.
It's nice to converse with such intelligent ppl. In my area ITC never really goes down and if it does the girls are risking their jobs.
So that makes me a OTC Master. I agree just tossing grands alone will not accomplish the objective. It takes style, charm, cunning and a since of purpose to pop some of these low mileage hookas.
I tell yea that reminds me of a story my grandmother used to tell me but, that will just have to wait for another thread...hell maybe a Article
I once visited a club, tipped a girl a dollar at the stage and she came over afterwards and asked if I would like to go to a hotel with her to get a bj or sex for about $150. She said she I tipped her at the stage. I thought she was legitimate. Club no longer has girls like her anymore though I heard.
In another club a visiting female customer asked if I would leave with her and I could do whatever I wanted to her. she wanted to leave right away. Some girls do ask shortly after meeting. I never mentioned the girls who asked to meet up who I agreed with. Well not how I met up. when I first started visiting strip clubs, I decided to meet up with a dancer. the second girl I asked said ok. I wasn't happy though when I found out she wanted money.
I have visited clubs with strict rules preventing any dancer from getting contact information. I routinely saw guys business cards in the men's urinal getting peed on. I take it the dancer did not keep their contact information since I was peeing on it.
Once in London, a club was closing early because it was so quiet and when I said 'What a piy' the girl I was with said 'It doen't have to end here'. 15 minutes later we were in a cab heading back to mine, It was my first visit to the club; I had never met her before.
Most of the OTC I had, I got it the night I met them. I do remember with the one lady it took about 5 or 6 visits with her in the club before I got to take her home.
I just saw a new girl for the second time Friday night, and I thought she was OTC material but she started with, "Don't touch my hair. Don't touch my face..." so she's now off my list. Too bad too because she's just my type (for a white girl). There's been exceptions (like my ex-ATF) that I waited over a year for OTC, but if nothing is happening after the 3rd visit I usually move on. I've never had OTC with my CF but she doesn't do that with anyone at all so I'm fine with ITC. She has skills...
I was actually talking about non P4P OTC in my case. I've never gone down the P4P route, nothing wrong with P4P, but I just feel kind of dirty fucking a prostitute knowing she's probably fucking multiple guys daily.
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Hmmm......I believe there is a reference book on that subject
Lol! Fuck that faggot RickyBoy and his faggity little System. Just fuckin' ask!
One try is all you need because wasting time and money is pointless
This is the best way i have found
Whatch the stage rounds and once you find your girl go tip her a few dollers and ask her to visit you.
Once at table buy her a drink and talk. The talk should be about how beautiful and sexy she is. Try to pull her close and rub on her body with your hands..if she pulls away get rid of her...if she pulls in start kissing her kneck . If this goes down buy the dance. About one or two will do. During the dance try to exculate the sexuality by rubbing her ass and sucking tits...kiss her neck and if she lets you kiss her lips...after the dance she will try to upsell you to champagne rooms...this is when you say " i was thinking we head back to my hotel room after your shift" if she is down you will fuck her if not move on she is a waist of resourced after this.
Hope from bitch to bitch, club to club...you will find a lot of no answers but the yes girls make the adventure worthwhile
Totally agree with this
But i would not exceed past 3 visits
With that said i did score my ATF ( air dancer) after 52 visits..yes once a week spending $60 per visit for a full year
But if your looking to maximize your dollar and run a tight operation 1 to 3 visits with buying only 1 to 3 dances per visit
Get in and get out..most these bitches just want to waist your time and money its kinda their job lol....sad but true
So stop wasting time and cash on clubs with girls that want
She always said OTC wasn't worth the risk when we could do anything we wanted ITC, then the club was sold and the new owner cracked down on ITC so she started doing OTC.
JS69 and Whodey make great points, backed up by Papi.
There is no magic number. Take it from someone who's been in a shithole, to a high class joint all in the same night. At many of these places, you will find what is probably a high mileage provider that will probably meet you (or anyone for that matter) within 30 minutes of meeting you for the first time if the price is right. On the other hand, some girls will not do it for $1,000 because they do not want to be a "one and done" with you, and they want to make sure you will want repeat visits, OR like Whodey says they simply don't want to do it because of the risk (which could be getting fired from work, bad reputation from other dancers, LE, etc.).
Just think, there's probably a lot of stuff you could get away with at work, but don't do because you don't want to risk getting in trouble which could equal you getting fired. Strippers have a similar view to OTC - if the risk is worth the reward, they will do it. If Ricky offers them $1,000 they may do it, if Juice offers them $70, a chocolate milk and a Little Debbie cake, they're probably going to decline, no matter how many visits Juice makes to the club.
Shylnn i agree with everything you said but thiss ^^^
Y dosnt anybody believe me ? Its a true life experiences
Im a attractive heavy set guy that has good game and a little money
Anyone can do what I've done with just as little
For sure, not hard to look at the responses and see who is doing the exact equivalent of SW-style lying & posing.
For me, I *love* hanging out with strippers ITC, so I'm probably more patient than most, I don't consider it a "waste of time" if she doesn't want to go OTC, it's only a waste of time if I"m not having a kick-ass time in the club. And, as a general rule, no offense to the guys who enjoy girls who are easy to get OTC, but I do enjoy the challenge of going with a girl who doesn't go OTC with every guy the very first time they meet.
GEnerally, I don't even ask until our 2nd time, and if I really dig her and can smell a payoff, I'll happy stick with her 5 or 6 trips.
I do most of my clubbing in Detroit nowadays, where I can hide behind a curtain, no cameras, in a decent size chair and I am left alone without being bothered by a bouncer. Why do I need to do OTC in Detroit? I think every girl I have done OTC with has offered it to me. In most cases it was late (almost closing time) and the girls have said "oh I really don't want to go home yet." What that translates to is "I didn't make enough money tonight, so if I come back to your hotel will you pay me $150 or $200."
In other instances where you can't do all those fun activities inside the club, that's when you need to work your charm for OTC. If you walk into a 'no extras club' and you're an unfamiliar face, good luck, it's highly unlikely you're going to get OTC on your first visit no matter how much money you pony up. You'll find a girl eventually, but I bet you fail at least 6 times before you find one that says yes.
For sure, not hard to look at the responses and see who is doing the exact equivalent of SW-style lying & posing.
Completely agree guys. MANG i tell you this board has some idiots.
It's nice to converse with such intelligent ppl. In my area ITC never really goes down and if it does the girls are risking their jobs.
So that makes me a OTC Master. I agree just tossing grands alone will not accomplish the objective. It takes style, charm, cunning and a since of purpose to pop some of these low mileage hookas.
I tell yea that reminds me of a story my grandmother used to tell me but, that will just have to wait for another thread...hell maybe a Article
Betcha coming up with that number was as easy as pi!
In another club a visiting female customer asked if I would leave with her and I could do whatever I wanted to her. she wanted to leave right away. Some girls do ask shortly after meeting. I never mentioned the girls who asked to meet up who I agreed with. Well not how I met up. when I first started visiting strip clubs, I decided to meet up with a dancer. the second girl I asked said ok. I wasn't happy though when I found out she wanted money.
I have visited clubs with strict rules preventing any dancer from getting contact information. I routinely saw guys business cards in the men's urinal getting peed on. I take it the dancer did not keep their contact information since I was peeing on it.
Wasn't that Magic Johnson #32 ?