Detroit
JohnSmith69
layin low but staying high
Wednesday, November 4, 2015 3:49 PM
While I am convinced that Follies is the best club in the U.S., I am also convinced that Detroit is the best strip club city in the U.S. The huge array of clubs and services provided find no equal. Other cities like Miami are really good, but they are not Detroit.
What I can't figure out is why is Detroit so good, and why can't that success be duplicated in other cities. I assume that lenient law enforcement may be part of the equation, and the economic downturn in the city also helps. But I can't imagine that those are the only factors. Why is Detroit so good, and why can't that model be copied in other cities?
What I can't figure out is why is Detroit so good, and why can't that success be duplicated in other cities. I assume that lenient law enforcement may be part of the equation, and the economic downturn in the city also helps. But I can't imagine that those are the only factors. Why is Detroit so good, and why can't that model be copied in other cities?
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Seriously though for someone that's seen the majority of larger cities in the USA and Canada...
What makes a difference:
1. Name another city where you get a lap dance in a private, curtained off booth/room and nobody checks on you? Yes there are club(s) in cities that do this but is this the norm for every single club in that city? Only in Detroit.
2. The lure of Casinos, which is some parts of the USA that's not a big deal but in many others, it is.
3. A large city whose economy isn't doing well, which equals strippers who will do whatever they need to earn a living. Example: girls in Texas aren't doing this because their economy is good, and they can find decent paying normal jobs. I can't even begin to tell you how many Detroit strippers have told me they are stripping because they cannot find any other forms of work.
4. An area where enough businessmen "day-club" enabling clubs to stay open during the day and be successful (off the top of my head only Dallas comes to mind as another city that can pull this off).
5. Club atmosphere. I can't think of another city where the clubs are so grand and decorated better. Detroit club owners put in some effort on making their clubs look and feel nice, because they are competing with each other. The nicest clubs in Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, and Cleveland would be considered lower tier in decor quality when compared to Detroit clubs.
6. You're in the Midwest, and you're in Detroit. Generally you're going to get less "attitude" from a dancer coming out of the Midwest versus the north east, west coast or Florida. Ever have a conversation with a stripper from Detroit? Most haven't traveled much compared to a Vegas, Miami, or Atlanta stripper hence less ego and arrogance to deal with. That haven't seen much, they are easy to impress.
Where Detroit doesn't have an advantage:
1. Only one club has girls going nude, and it's not even all the girls that work there.
2. The strippers overall are average looking at best. Many other cities quality of girls blows Detroit strippers away, but they don't do what Detroit girls do in the VIP.
Other cities that can "hang" with Detroit? Id like to know, the only one I can think of is Toronto. Montreal would be in the mix too but to get extras there you have to visit one of the clubs that are way outside city limits.
Seems like the top clubs are owned by that Alan dude – I wonder if he set the template/bar and everyone else has no choice but to follow suit – i.e. dude offers upscale clubs and dancers with UHM.
The Detroit area has many poor communities which supply the strippers for the clubs, but it also has middle class and wealthy suburbs that supply the clubs' customers. And girls from Michigan are all whores.
If you want to learn more about how underfunded Detroit municipalities are, watch Anthony Bordain's "Parts Unknown" about Detroit - one of my favorite episodes of a place in the USA.
"Not sure how it is now, but a few years ago, Providence, Rhode Island had a very similar vibe to Detroit."
- right it WAS awesome but not anymore - they cracked down there to a great extent."
Jacktrash?
You hit a new low for your comment about Detroit's womenwomen. On the other hand I doubt many dancers live in the city. It's too dangerous, or too expensive, depending on where you want to live. I'll leave it at that.
Thanks for any info.
Downtown there is Legends (relatively new) and Bouzoukis (no extras). I'm not sure if I'd be roaming the streets in downtown Detroit late at night but on the weekends there's a lot of bars downtown so there's a lot of people in certain areas and it's safe (just like any other larger city).
Now, most of the clubs are on 8 Mile (which is about 20-30 minutes from downtown) and it's safe to drive on that road at night, but I wouldn't be stopping for gas at 2AM. Another popular area for some clubs is Dearborn which is near the airport (about 15-20 minutes from downtown) and that area is much safe, I wouldn't be afraid to be pumping gas at 2AM in that area.
Check out this guide I wrote up awhile back - should answer all of your questions:
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
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There are good clubs in the suburbs, mostly along Michigan Avenue. Flight Club, BT's, Criket, Bogart's, and Landing Strip are in ugly commercial areas of the suburbs but the neighborhoods are not dangerous. These clubs are near the airport, and you can find chain hotels around the airport and close to the clubs.
Downtown has nice restaurants and a variety of bars as well as Greektown Casino (which is probably in last place after MGM and Motor City, but I'm sure it's still decent and I've had a lot of clients who gamble there spend lots of money.
There are only two strip clubs downtown, Legends and Bouzouki. Legends is new, very beautiful interior, same ownership as Players on 8 mile, some extras, but not good quality of girls. Bouzouki is more of a neighborhood bar feel, has been around for a long time, has no extras (but high contact dances depending on the girl) and has a better dancer quality than Legends (at least on night shifts).
All the 8 mile clubs are big on extras. So is Flight Club by the airport. There are also some dives that are big on extras but I don't feel like getting into that because I don't do dives.
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=1…
In regards to the original question, I think Detroit evolved in the 90's sometime into a great strip club city.
Back then, it's my understanding that a lot of the automobile related industries spent BIG money on the wine and dine type of client deal. Many of the people in the auto industry had expense accounts in which they could spend money on clients and a lot of that money went to entertaining clients at strip clubs.
Then, laws changed with the amounts businesses and people could write off for tax purposes, the auto industry went in the tank for most of the 2000 years and expense accounts got slimmed back or canned all together.
Now, it's kind of like the genie in the bottle thing. Once you let the "extras" genie out, it's hard to get it back in the lamp. Many customers in Detroit expect more than just a dance. And it continues to this day at many of the clubs.
My understanding is its also a city that hasn't gentrified much in the past 20 years. There's been a real trend towards hipsters and others moving into downtown areas. Detroit is largely a city where people work downtown and live in the suburbs. So the actual city of detroit lacks the sort of social conservatives who push a crackdown on clubs.
Plus, as we've discussed plenty here, strip club busts are expensive for what they yield. If I'm the chief or police or mayor of detroit, I care way more about meth and heroin than extras.
JamesSD: "So the actual city of detroit lacks the sort of social conservatives who push a crackdown on clubs."
I have to disagree with you here. Detroit has a strong contingent of black churches and ministers who hate strip clubs and want them all shut down. They pushed thru some very restrictive strip club regulations a few years ago. However, the regulations are not enforced. I don't understand why, because I know the police and politicians would never accept bribes.
Almost all the non-alcohol clubs in San Francisco! SF clubs have other problems, but curtained-off booths that are not bouncer-patrolled is not one of them.
Based on my travels, Detroit is the hands down winner with something for everyone's taste and budget.
Question -- if one is flying into BOS Logan and taking MBTA to one's hotel, how does one get to Providence, RI??
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I was in Detroit around the 23rd and 24th, and the dancers were a bit more cautious than the last time I visited in July Several dancers mentioned some raids at a few downtown clubs a week or two before, which I verified from several other web sites.