I haven't had an ATF in at least a year. Last week, met the first ATF contender in a loooong time. Beautiful face, almost-flawless body, she keeps up with me shot-for-shot, and maybe best of all, we'd hung out for nearly an hour without ANY discussion of getting a dance when I told her "we should do a VIP soon", and she just shrugged and said, "whenever you want, no rush, it's not like I have other options." Then she gestured towards the main floor, where there were a total of 3 other customers, none of whom had done any dances the entire time I'd been there. Slow hustle -- check. Recognize the value of a slow-shift customer -- check. Haven't broached the topic of OTC yet.
Anyway, as fun as it's been to go to the club without ever knowing who will be there, and just going with the flow, I am super pumped at the idea of having an ATF again, it's been a long time since I've had this feeling like I can't WAIT to go back, I've wanted to go back every day since I met her. Fun position to be in, hopefully she'll pan out.
Shadowcat: kinda! I know a lot of you dislike the managers/DJs/bouncers etc., but for me, I think it takes very little effort to treat these guys nicely, and it ALWAYS pays dividends, sometimes really big ones. I just buy these guys a shot occasionally, and make smalltalk. In this case, the club manager knew I'd been frustrated with the lineup -- he saw me leave after an hour, my last 3-4 trips, and suggested he just text me when the lineup is particularly good. So last week, he texts me, "awesome lineup today, some new girls, very few customers, a few girls I know you'll like." Thus tipped off, I headed up, and as I walked in he pointed me straight to my new potential-ATF (a previous manager at this same club introduced me to my penultimate ATF). He wasn't lying, the club had at least 4 very hot dancers, and barely any customers.
So definitely right time / right place, but I find I can sometimes stack the deck a little in my favor, especially with the manager knowing my specific taste and texting me on good lineups.
Anyway, potential new ATF has a couple of downsides I have to explore more to see if they're dealkillers or she just needs to warm up more
Subra: Good luck with the honey. I have a very similar MO. This only applies to baby-dolls I have a very strong desire for (a rarity). Like you, they have to drink. They have to be willing to have a few drinks and good conversation before VIP. Then, they have to be willing to have more drinks after VIP. If they run off right after the dance or give any indication they do not do OTC, it is a show stopper.
If I just wanted to fuck a beautiful woman, I would get a high end escort. Instead, I'm always searching for favorites that I can have fun with partying ITC and OTC. That would include OTC dinners, drinks etc...and of course OTC fucking.
Others may have good luck asking for p4p sex on the first meeting. I've had much better luck building a sc trust before I outright ask for p4p adult fun. This is especially true with the ultra fine ones, those that have many options.
The problem with this method is it can be very expensive. These ladies can be very adroit at implying OTC sex is on the menu but when it comes time to shit-or-get-off-the-pot some refuse. Thus, all the time and money has been for naught.
Thru an expensive learning curve, I've gotten pretty good at identifying the posers but I still get burned once in a while. In hindsight, there were always red flags that I ignored. Thankfully, I have a decent pipeline of favorites that enable me to be selective on who I pursue. I'm always searching though. I love variety.
that my prequisites right down the line. Attractive, slow hustle, gotta drink, gotta OTC. Add to that, gotta give at least above-average mileage ITC, and I have to like her personality enough to want to spend a few hours drinking ITC with her
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So definitely right time / right place, but I find I can sometimes stack the deck a little in my favor, especially with the manager knowing my specific taste and texting me on good lineups.
Anyway, potential new ATF has a couple of downsides I have to explore more to see if they're dealkillers or she just needs to warm up more
If I just wanted to fuck a beautiful woman, I would get a high end escort. Instead, I'm always searching for favorites that I can have fun with partying ITC and OTC. That would include OTC dinners, drinks etc...and of course OTC fucking.
Others may have good luck asking for p4p sex on the first meeting. I've had much better luck building a sc trust before I outright ask for p4p adult fun. This is especially true with the ultra fine ones, those that have many options.
The problem with this method is it can be very expensive. These ladies can be very adroit at implying OTC sex is on the menu but when it comes time to shit-or-get-off-the-pot some refuse. Thus, all the time and money has been for naught.
Thru an expensive learning curve, I've gotten pretty good at identifying the posers but I still get burned once in a while. In hindsight, there were always red flags that I ignored. Thankfully, I have a decent pipeline of favorites that enable me to be selective on who I pursue. I'm always searching though. I love variety.
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