A little kinky

Dude, I once saw a stripper lead a PL to VIP with a belt around his neck. He looked like a total bitch

I find it waaaay higher than 50/50 as far as the odds of getting the girls to do kink, almost every girl I've been with will indulge in at least light play -- but, I also find most of the girls are submissive, and I'm happy to play the dominant role. I could see those odds going down if you're only willing to play the submissive role. But I've met plenty of girls who claim they are dominant only, and had lots of fun in a switch role, too.

My biggest advice might be: when it comes to kink, my experiences became WAAAAY better once I shifted from being a variety talk-to-her-10-minutes-and-go customer, to a slow-hustle invest-lots-of-time-talking-and-drinking-first customer. It makes the difference between her attitude being "just met this guy, he might be a little creepy, but I'll play along with his sick sexuality if he pays me enough, but I'll completely defend my boundaries" and "fun customers, I trust him, will be fun and different to explore". You want the latter, the difference in attitude is HUGE, and so is the quality of the experience.

So my advice is, this is one particular area where it pays to build up some trust and rapport as a customer, the first time you see her go at her pace (definitely don't push too far the first time you see her, unless she's definitely showing signs that she's receptive). I've gotten girls with low-mileage reputations to do every single thing you described in your last paragraph, and quite beyond that too, all without a single one ever asking me for a single penny more (despite what you read on SW ... in fact, I'm quite convinced you should specifically AVOID strippers who will only do kink if pay more, go with the ones who are enthusiastic, in 20 years of doing kink at the clubs I've been asked to pay more exactly ZERO times, in either the dom or sub role).

For me, the motherlode is when I get a stripper who hasn't done this before, but is curious and enthusiastic to explore -- and I build up a little trust over an hour or two of drinks and at least one initial non-kinky VIP, and the next thing you know she's open to exploring everything

My ATF told me about a customer she had who liked to be abused. She would insult him and call him names while he jacked it. As he got more excited, she would increase the name-calling and pinch his nipple and slap his face. He would cum on the couch, and then lick up his jizz.

Not my cup of tea.

I pretty much discovered my kink in a club. As the guest of honor I was led on stage for a chair dance. Soon I was cuffed to the pole pants around my ankles and having my ass flogged. Fucking loved it.

I get the slow warmup. Especially breaking in a newbie domme. Tried to do a few non-kink VIPs before I asked. Led through the club on a collar? Maybe. Cuffed to the ceiling in the vip room. Ok. Take my cash.

To answer your other question, not are you NOT the only guy looking for kink at the club, but based on your interests you've described so far, you're about 1000x tamer than the wildest requests the strippers get. In short, most strippers will have gotten far crazier requests than what you're looking for, so if that's what you're worried about, then you can stop worrying :)

One of my old favorites told me a customer asked her to pee in his mouth and stick the heel of her shoe up his ass. Wasn't me by the way! She complied with neither (she said) but apparently other dancers in the club did.

I'll take vanilla. Thanks. :)

"One of my old favorites told me a customer asked her to pee in his mouth and stick the heel of her shoe up his ass. Wasn't me by the way!"

Glad you clarified that!

"She complied with neither (she said) but apparently other dancers in the club did."

These are the kind of twisted stories that I come her for! Brilliant! ;)

I agree with Subraman on your level of kink. My ATF alone told me stories about what some of the guys would ask for that gave me chills. Guys who wanted her to piss and shit on them, who wanted to be choked while they JO, or for her to stomp on their balls with her platforms.

She once told me about a guy who would tip her $500 for the privilege of licking and sucking her feet. And the sweatier and stinkier they were, the better. One time she almost vomited, but who's gonna turn down $500?

One guy wanted her to use his dildo on him. He'd brought it into the club hidden in his coat. It was one of those ones that look an arm. Life size. As soon as she saw it, she told the bar and he got kicked out.

Compared to what she, and others, have told me, a little verbal and physical abuse ain't nothing. :)

You need the right escort. It's a lot harder to find a dancer to cater to your kink than an escort. Trust me.

rockstar: I have no idea about the comparison, since I have no idea how easy or hard it is to get an escort that does kink. But, since it is VERY easy to get strippers to do kink once you gain a little trust, if he likes the dynamics and experience in the strip club better than he does with escorts (which I assume he does, since he's looking for it in strip clubs), then there's no reason at all to have to go to escorts. Not arguing with your advice that, hell, might as well look around at other areas of the sex industry, just re-iterating that it is not at all difficult to have an amazing kinky time with a stripper

I'm just saying that finding the right dancer will take time and money; the right escort just takes money.

Subra sounds like he has good advice. But an easier way would be to PM San Jose Guy. I hear that he will hold you down by your wrists and start fucking you while you're asleep.

The clubs I go to are pretty tame but you could find that in them. Except for sticking your nose or anything else in their ass. It's a lot easier to get a dom to stick stuff in you ass than vice-versa.

"Shove my nose in her ass"???? I wish I hadn't just posted a sermon about how we shouldn't judge other guys sexual practices.

Are you shitting me? Better stay out of the BDSM forums son, that's positively tame!